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Postby Get Real! » Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:52 am

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YFred wrote:When it comes to the CypProb if the EU apply the same mentality as the GCs then there is nothing to discuss. If there is discussions going on then it must be that they are going to accept a compromise between the two positions and approve it, why else have all these negotiations.

What makes you think the EU gets to decide if an EU and UN member's occupied territory should be gifted to Turkey? :lol:

EU values all it nations. That is why Luxemburg has the same term for Presidency as Germany. You really do not understand the club you have joined.

You laugh at the Turks but you are the most un-european religously backward nation there is and the europeans are only just finding it out. God help them.

If you can't answer a question don't just post any old bollocks! :roll:
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Postby Expatkiwi » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:32 am

Get Real! wrote:
YFred wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
YFred wrote:When it comes to the CypProb if the EU apply the same mentality as the GCs then there is nothing to discuss. If there is discussions going on then it must be that they are going to accept a compromise between the two positions and approve it, why else have all these negotiations.

What makes you think the EU gets to decide if an EU and UN member's occupied territory should be gifted to Turkey? :lol:

EU values all it nations. That is why Luxemburg has the same term for Presidency as Germany. You really do not understand the club you have joined.

You laugh at the Turks but you are the most un-european religously backward nation there is and the europeans are only just finding it out. God help them.

If you can't answer a question don't just post any old bollocks! :roll:


We've all been guilty of that, GR. That's why this forum needs a fresh angle in order to better debate the issue. That's why I started chatting about "honorable partition".
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Postby Nikitas » Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:11 am

Nope, Poland is proven to be more religious than Cyprus. Look up Eurostat figures and statistics.
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Postby YFred » Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:46 am

Nikitas wrote:Nope, Poland is proven to be more religious than Cyprus. Look up Eurostat figures and statistics.

You know very well that you can prove anything you like in statistics. I go by a much more reliable method called personal experience. And when I come across University Biology Graduates that believes in god, that is as backward as you can get. I have met some Pole dancers but have never met Pole University Biology Graduate who is religios in any nationality in all my life. That proves it beyond reasonable doubt in my court.

Guilty as charged. I have now taken off my wig.
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Postby Gregory » Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:01 pm

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Nikitas wrote:Nope, Poland is proven to be more religious than Cyprus. Look up Eurostat figures and statistics.

You know very well that you can prove anything you like in statistics. I go by a much more reliable method called personal experience. And when I come across University Biology Graduates that believes in god, that is as backward as you can get. I have met some Pole dancers but have never met Pole University Biology Graduate who is religios in any nationality in all my life. That proves it beyond reasonable doubt in my court.

Guilty as charged. I have now taken off my wig.


How many Biology University graduates do you know?
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Postby james_mav » Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:52 pm

YFred wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Nope, Poland is proven to be more religious than Cyprus. Look up Eurostat figures and statistics.

You know very well that you can prove anything you like in statistics. I go by a much more reliable method called personal experience. And when I come across University Biology Graduates that believes in god, that is as backward as you can get. I have met some Pole dancers but have never met Pole University Biology Graduate who is religios in any nationality in all my life. That proves it beyond reasonable doubt in my court.

Guilty as charged. I have now taken off my wig.

You ought to limit yourself to commenting on that which you could plausibly have something to contribute. Clearly when it comes to science, you have nothing to contribute.

The physical sciences are about disproving rather than proving (i.e. a hypothesis can only ever be proved false, rather than proved true; if you want proofs of truth, stick to the mathematical/logical sciences), and about answering the question of "how?", rather than "why?".

God is not within the realm of science because the existence of God is neither provable nor disprovable. Nothing in science relies on the existence or absence of God, and there is no contradiction in believing in evolution for example and also believing in God. Anybody with a scientific background who tells you otherwise is misleading you (and anybody without a scientific background should keep silent on matters scientific).
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Postby james_mav » Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:54 pm

Gregory wrote:
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Nikitas wrote:Nope, Poland is proven to be more religious than Cyprus. Look up Eurostat figures and statistics.

You know very well that you can prove anything you like in statistics. I go by a much more reliable method called personal experience. And when I come across University Biology Graduates that believes in god, that is as backward as you can get. I have met some Pole dancers but have never met Pole University Biology Graduate who is religios in any nationality in all my life. That proves it beyond reasonable doubt in my court.

Guilty as charged. I have now taken off my wig.


How many Biology University graduates do you know?

Perhaps he met a few while he was scrubbing their toilets clean...
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Postby YFred » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:45 pm

james_mav wrote:
Gregory wrote:
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Nikitas wrote:Nope, Poland is proven to be more religious than Cyprus. Look up Eurostat figures and statistics.

You know very well that you can prove anything you like in statistics. I go by a much more reliable method called personal experience. And when I come across University Biology Graduates that believes in god, that is as backward as you can get. I have met some Pole dancers but have never met Pole University Biology Graduate who is religios in any nationality in all my life. That proves it beyond reasonable doubt in my court.

Guilty as charged. I have now taken off my wig.


How many Biology University graduates do you know?

Perhaps he met a few while he was scrubbing their toilets clean...

You wouldn't know one if it come and hit you on the face, those were than days when a toilet cleaner was needed and the good ol roc rule of give it to a TC used to be applied religiously. Things have changed somewhat these days; we have many Universities in the TRNC now including an American Academy in Free Girne and about 50,000 foreign students. The one you missed is the one who shouts loudest on the forum, and is worth 10,000 GCs. The old addage empty bottle makes more noise and all that. Damn it, where is that bloomin Zivania bottle gone now, talking of bottles makes me thirsty.
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Postby YFred » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:49 pm

james_mav wrote:
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Nikitas wrote:Nope, Poland is proven to be more religious than Cyprus. Look up Eurostat figures and statistics.

You know very well that you can prove anything you like in statistics. I go by a much more reliable method called personal experience. And when I come across University Biology Graduates that believes in god, that is as backward as you can get. I have met some Pole dancers but have never met Pole University Biology Graduate who is religios in any nationality in all my life. That proves it beyond reasonable doubt in my court.

Guilty as charged. I have now taken off my wig.

You ought to limit yourself to commenting on that which you could plausibly have something to contribute. Clearly when it comes to science, you have nothing to contribute.

The physical sciences are about disproving rather than proving (i.e. a hypothesis can only ever be proved false, rather than proved true; if you want proofs of truth, stick to the mathematical/logical sciences), and about answering the question of "how?", rather than "why?".

God is not within the realm of science because the existence of God is neither provable nor disprovable. Nothing in science relies on the existence or absence of God, and there is no contradiction in believing in evolution for example and also believing in God. Anybody with a scientific background who tells you otherwise is misleading you (and anybody without a scientific background should keep silent on matters scientific).

So, please tell us, do you believe in Creationism or Evolution. How do you feel about the fascist backward religious people trying to force teaching Creationism and Biology in schools as equal.
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Postby james_mav » Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:57 pm

YFred wrote:
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YFred wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Nope, Poland is proven to be more religious than Cyprus. Look up Eurostat figures and statistics.

You know very well that you can prove anything you like in statistics. I go by a much more reliable method called personal experience. And when I come across University Biology Graduates that believes in god, that is as backward as you can get. I have met some Pole dancers but have never met Pole University Biology Graduate who is religios in any nationality in all my life. That proves it beyond reasonable doubt in my court.

Guilty as charged. I have now taken off my wig.

You ought to limit yourself to commenting on that which you could plausibly have something to contribute. Clearly when it comes to science, you have nothing to contribute.

The physical sciences are about disproving rather than proving (i.e. a hypothesis can only ever be proved false, rather than proved true; if you want proofs of truth, stick to the mathematical/logical sciences), and about answering the question of "how?", rather than "why?".

God is not within the realm of science because the existence of God is neither provable nor disprovable. Nothing in science relies on the existence or absence of God, and there is no contradiction in believing in evolution for example and also believing in God. Anybody with a scientific background who tells you otherwise is misleading you (and anybody without a scientific background should keep silent on matters scientific).

So, please tell us, do you believe in Creationism or Evolution. How do you feel about the fascist backward religious people trying to force teaching Creationism and Biology in schools as equal.

Firstly, my personal beliefs are immaterial. Secondly, I just told you that the beliefs are not mutually exclusive, so you can believe in creationism and evolution at the same time: i.e. you can believe that God created the universe according to His laws of nature. Of course science generally debunks much of what is written in the bible, in particular Genesis, but it takes a pretty hardcore believer to read that literally. Certainly the Orthodox Church does not hold the teaching that the earth was literally created in 6 days, or that it is a few thousand years old.

Teaching both in schools is fine, and is in fact preferable; developing intellects thrive on seeming contradictions, and the only way to develop an understanding and an appreciation of subject matter is to approach it from different viewpoints. If students are exposed to the scientific explanation they will be able to better (one day) understand the Biblical story in some kind of context. The last thing anyone wants is a generation of feral atheist rationalists or bible bashing young-earth creationist zealots.

It is clear from your line of questioning that you've not benefited from any kind of serious study - I pity you.
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