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What Role do you Personally want to Play, Post Solution?

Postby Oracle » Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:37 pm

With a brief outline of how you envisage Cyprus, post-solution; what aspect to you see as most important for its continued proper functioning?

Personally, I see the problem of Turkish being another Official language as the main obstacle which should not be re-introduced after the RoC regains full governorship (and all Turks and Settlers have been re-settled back in Turkey).

I propose a language planning policy to implement Greek as the only Official language with English as the language of commerce. I do believe one of the ways relationships broke down in the 60's was the divisive linguistic legacy the Brits imposed on us. They know more than anyone else about the power of language.

So, I would like to support recognition of Greek as the ONE Official language.

Is there a role you wish to play in bringing about long-term stability or a change for the better? :D
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Re: What Role do you Personally want to Play, Post Solution?

Postby Bad Boy » Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:45 pm

Oracle wrote:With a brief outline of how you envisage Cyprus, post-solution; what aspect to you see as most important for its continued proper functioning?

Personally, I see the problem of Turkish being another Official language as the main obstacle which should not be re-introduced after the RoC regains full governorship (and all Turks and Settlers have been re-settled back in Turkey).

I propose a language planning policy to implement Greek as the only Official language with English as the language of commerce. I do believe one of the ways relationships broke down in the 60's was the divisive linguistic legacy the Brits imposed on us. They know more than anyone else about the power of language.

So, I would like to support recognition of Greek as the ONE Official language.

Is there a role you wish to play in bringing about long-term stability or a change for the better? :D



Language will be another reason in United Cyprus to break the romance of GCs and TCs.

Telling you, soonest you both communities will start living together, you will face real problems and will be ending with another digeni , sampson and invitation to turkey again. Thats what I believe.
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Re: What Role do you Personally want to Play, Post Solution?

Postby Oracle » Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:55 pm

Bad Boy wrote:
Oracle wrote:With a brief outline of how you envisage Cyprus, post-solution; what aspect to you see as most important for its continued proper functioning?

Personally, I see the problem of Turkish being another Official language as the main obstacle which should not be re-introduced after the RoC regains full governorship (and all Turks and Settlers have been re-settled back in Turkey).

I propose a language planning policy to implement Greek as the only Official language with English as the language of commerce. I do believe one of the ways relationships broke down in the 60's was the divisive linguistic legacy the Brits imposed on us. They know more than anyone else about the power of language.

So, I would like to support recognition of Greek as the ONE Official language.

Is there a role you wish to play in bringing about long-term stability or a change for the better? :D



Language will be another reason in United Cyprus to break the romance of GCs and TCs.

Telling you, soonest you both communities will start living together, you will face real problems and will be ending with another digeni , sampson and invitation to turkey again. Thats what I believe.


You are too pessimistic. Those events only happened once and there is no reason for them to be repeated, especially if we identify causal agents and remove them as obstacles to future stability. Language was one such contributing factor to the instabilities of the 60's.

I see post-solution Cyprus as going through a Renaissance where the shackles of the past imperialist en-slavers are destroyed for ever. The Turkish language imposed on Cyprus was such a shackle and has to be relegated to past mistakes. Unworkable.

Renaissance Cyprus will uphold all that is good, moral, pure and of the higher callings .... :D
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Re: What Role do you Personally want to Play, Post Solution?

Postby Get Real! » Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:59 pm

Oracle wrote:...what aspect to you see as most important for its continued proper functioning?

I’d like to be appointed as head of Cyprus’ “Psychological Reconditioning Unit”, setup to deal with any Greek and/or Turkish nationalists who may attempt to cause anti-Cypriot upheaval.

The institution would include effective state funded remedies such as lobotomies, clinical mental rearrangements, and complete mental rebirths, all geared towards Cypriot nationalism… as it should be! :D
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Re: What Role do you Personally want to Play, Post Solution?

Postby Bad Boy » Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:02 am

Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:...what aspect to you see as most important for its continued proper functioning?

I’d like to be appointed as head of Cyprus’ “Psychological Reconditioning Unit”, setup to deal with any Greek and/or Turkish nationalists who may attempt to cause anti-Cypriot upheaval.

The institution would include effective state funded remedies such as lobotomies, clinical mental rearrangements, and complete mental rebirths, all geared towards Cypriot nationalism… as it should be! :D



and from the same minute start counting your last days on earth :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

will you do anything to take off Greek or Turkish Flags from Cyprus?

both communities will kill you GR.
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Re: What Role do you Personally want to Play, Post Solution?

Postby Bad Boy » Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:07 am

Oracle wrote:
Bad Boy wrote:
Oracle wrote:With a brief outline of how you envisage Cyprus, post-solution; what aspect to you see as most important for its continued proper functioning?

Personally, I see the problem of Turkish being another Official language as the main obstacle which should not be re-introduced after the RoC regains full governorship (and all Turks and Settlers have been re-settled back in Turkey).

I propose a language planning policy to implement Greek as the only Official language with English as the language of commerce. I do believe one of the ways relationships broke down in the 60's was the divisive linguistic legacy the Brits imposed on us. They know more than anyone else about the power of language.

So, I would like to support recognition of Greek as the ONE Official language.

Is there a role you wish to play in bringing about long-term stability or a change for the better? :D



Language will be another reason in United Cyprus to break the romance of GCs and TCs.

Telling you, soonest you both communities will start living together, you will face real problems and will be ending with another digeni , sampson and invitation to turkey again. Thats what I believe.


You are too pessimistic. Those events only happened once and there is no reason for them to be repeated, especially if we identify causal agents and remove them as obstacles to future stability. Language was one such contributing factor to the instabilities of the 60's.

I see post-solution Cyprus as going through a Renaissance where the shackles of the past imperialist en-slavers are destroyed for ever. The Turkish language imposed on Cyprus was such a shackle and has to be relegated to past mistakes. Unworkable.

Renaissance Cyprus will uphold all that is good, moral, pure and of the higher callings .... :D



I dont know, may be I am wrong, but when you are negotiating with Talat, you are telling him to impose greek on TCs? or asking him, that GCs will not let them celebrate Ataturk day? or ....?
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Re: What Role do you Personally want to Play, Post Solution?

Postby Oracle » Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:13 am

Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:...what aspect to you see as most important for its continued proper functioning?

I’d like to be appointed as head of Cyprus’ “Psychological Reconditioning Unit”, setup to deal with any Greek and/or Turkish nationalists who may attempt to cause anti-Cypriot upheaval.

The institution would include effective state funded remedies such as lobotomies, clinical mental rearrangements, and complete mental rebirths, all geared towards Cypriot nationalism… as it should be! :D


Renaissance Cyprus will be comfortable with simply being democratic :wink: . But, you agree the schizoid nature of two official languages is unworkable.

Besides, once a solution has been reached, you really must retire your witch-hunt as it will be unnecessary. :D
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Postby Nikitas » Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:18 am

We have had two official languages all along, since 1960.

It is not necessary to DO anything. The dominant culture on the island will attract, rather than impose, speakers of the language.

If anyone wants to speak some other language they can. If official documents of the Federal government, and only that, are in two languages, then let them. As far as the EU goes, Greek is already an official language, so there is no need to do anything there.

Any energy expended on this issue would be better used elsewhere.
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Postby Oracle » Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:23 am

Nikitas wrote:We have had two official languages all along, since 1960.

It is not necessary to DO anything. The dominant culture on the island will attract, rather than impose, speakers of the language.

If anyone wants to speak some other language they can. If official documents of the Federal government, and only that, are in two languages, then let them. As far as the EU goes, Greek is already an official language, so there is no need to do anything there.

Any energy expended on this issue would be better used elsewhere.


That's OK ... I'm quite happy to make it my personal goal. Any expenditure in energy will be offset by the savings in paper and routine translation fees. Besides, you have to agree, it was part of the problem, so it should not be part of the solution. As you said, Greek is the official language in the EU and we really do not need to introduce another language there.

Anyway, what role do you want to play or see as most significant? :D
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Postby Nikitas » Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:26 am

It will be vital to retain the status of the dominant culture on the island. Sounds cryptic, but this does not depend entirely on being the majority in terms of population. It will need a constant and deliberate effort, yet not making it seem as such. Enough said.
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