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What Role do you Personally want to Play, Post Solution?

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Bad Boy » Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:12 am

Oracle wrote:
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Nikitas wrote:Read this part of my post again Bad Boy:

"That is how it will be for TCs wanting to do business in the GC constitutent state, and vice versa. No problem."

The operative phrase being vice versa, meaning that GCs wanting to do business in the TC constituetn state will have to use Turkish, or hire an interpreter. No problem. No one is forcing anyone to speak any language.

Closest examples I know are Switzerlan, Belgium and Canada, which are multilingual federations. I have been to Switzerland and Belgium, and it really is not big deal for the residents of other cantons dealing with the local languages.


Those languages already existed there as part of the indigenous ethnicities and they are compatible and similar in alphabet etc.

Turkish and Greek are from completely different linguistic branches and totally incompatible for many reasons.



Not really, in Belgium there are 2 main languages, French and Dutch, both are completely different!


Those people have been living side by side for THOUSANDS of years. Their languages are Latinized Indo-European. Very similar and compatible! Besides Belgium has a population in the millions. Cyprus is too tiny for two OFFICIAL languages.



Tiny Cyprus :lol: :lol: thanks God they are Tiny, I went to hospital today to get swine-flu vaccine, I saw a different cypriot there. Damn they were fighting, no respect to anybody, just I want it first. Imagine if this nation is in millions what gonna happen to them??????

Oracle to be honest with you, You gonna waste your time if you will demand for a 1 official language for United Cyprus. Already even you are not united, Your official languages are Greek and Turkish, Check your passport or ID card.

whats making you to demand this?
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Postby Nikitas » Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:20 am

Greeks have been living side by side with Slav neighbors whose language is not latinized, neither is Greek, and seem to be doing OK.

Imposing limits on language is akin to what the Turks are doing to the Kurds and it sucks. It definitely does not sound like a way to make friends and influence people.
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Postby Oracle » Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:25 am

Nikitas wrote:Greeks have been living side by side with Slav neighbors whose language is not latinized, neither is Greek, and seem to be doing OK.

Imposing limits on language is akin to what the Turks are doing to the Kurds and it sucks. It definitely does not sound like a way to make friends and influence people.


I'm not proposing banning any languages like the Turks did to Kurdish.
I just think it is unnecessary as an OFFICIAL language. Yes, you can live side-be-side (inter) with people speaking different language in neighbouring countries. But, I'm talking about within a country (intra) ... Turkish caused friction as a second OFFICIAL language.
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Postby Bad Boy » Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:28 am

Nikitas wrote:Greeks have been living side by side with Slav neighbors whose language is not latinized, neither is Greek, and seem to be doing OK.

Imposing limits on language is akin to what the Turks are doing to the Kurds and it sucks. It definitely does not sound like a way to make friends and influence people.


Exactly.

Language has the main role in any community , nation or countries. I have seen countries getting separation just because of language.

Remember Pakistan and Bangladesh. (Bangladeshies were asking to impose Bangali to the majority of urdu speakers) and as the result they got separation.

Oracle is always shouting about GC's Human rights values for all other nations, but now here she is showing the Reality....
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Postby Oracle » Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:31 am

Bad Boy wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Greeks have been living side by side with Slav neighbors whose language is not latinized, neither is Greek, and seem to be doing OK.

Imposing limits on language is akin to what the Turks are doing to the Kurds and it sucks. It definitely does not sound like a way to make friends and influence people.


Exactly.

Language has the main role in any community , nation or countries. I have seen countries getting separation just because of language.

Remember Pakistan and Bangladesh. (Bangladeshies were asking to impose Bangali to the majority of urdu speakers) and as the result they got separation.

Oracle is always shouting about GC's Human rights values for all other nations, but now here she is showing the Reality....


There is NO Human Right to having OFFICIAL usage of every minority group's language in the administration of a government!. Turkish will not be banned, just removed from OFFICIALDOM.
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Postby Bad Boy » Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:33 am

Oracle wrote:
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Nikitas wrote:Greeks have been living side by side with Slav neighbors whose language is not latinized, neither is Greek, and seem to be doing OK.

Imposing limits on language is akin to what the Turks are doing to the Kurds and it sucks. It definitely does not sound like a way to make friends and influence people.


Exactly.

Language has the main role in any community , nation or countries. I have seen countries getting separation just because of language.

Remember Pakistan and Bangladesh. (Bangladeshies were asking to impose Bangali to the majority of urdu speakers) and as the result they got separation.

Oracle is always shouting about GC's Human rights values for all other nations, but now here she is showing the Reality....


There is NO Human Right to having OFFICIAL usage of every minority group's language in the administration of a government!. Turkish will not be banned, just removed from OFFICIALDOM.



you think Christofias can demand this to Talat while negotiating in private meetings?
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Postby insan » Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:34 am

Try just a lil bit harder. :lol:
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Postby Nikitas » Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:37 am

PResumably in this BBF thing that we are talking about, the language of one side will be Greek and of the other Turkish. In the small common area, the federal government, there will be two official languages by necessity, since it will be enacting laws and regulations affecting both communities and presumably we want laws to be understood by all citizens that they affect.

It seems that BBF has solved the problem.
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Postby Oracle » Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:37 am

Bad Boy wrote:
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Bad Boy wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Greeks have been living side by side with Slav neighbors whose language is not latinized, neither is Greek, and seem to be doing OK.

Imposing limits on language is akin to what the Turks are doing to the Kurds and it sucks. It definitely does not sound like a way to make friends and influence people.


Exactly.

Language has the main role in any community , nation or countries. I have seen countries getting separation just because of language.

Remember Pakistan and Bangladesh. (Bangladeshies were asking to impose Bangali to the majority of urdu speakers) and as the result they got separation.

Oracle is always shouting about GC's Human rights values for all other nations, but now here she is showing the Reality....


There is NO Human Right to having OFFICIAL usage of every minority group's language in the administration of a government!. Turkish will not be banned, just removed from OFFICIALDOM.



you think Christofias can demand this to Talat while negotiating in private meetings?


Like I said earlier ... I don't think the TCs will have any say in the solution when it is agreed by Cyprus-EU and forced on Turkey, as the invader, to accept.
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Postby Bad Boy » Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:41 am

Oracle wrote:Like I said earlier ... I don't think the TCs will have any say in the solution when it is agreed by Cyprus-EU and forced on Turkey, as the invader, to accept.


as I said.

TCs were born with ugliest fate. They will remain slave, only masters will change. from Turkish speakers to Greek speakers.
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