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Re: What Role do you Personally want to Play, Post Solution?

Postby yialousa1971 » Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:44 am

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Oracle wrote:...what aspect to you see as most important for its continued proper functioning?

I’d like to be appointed as head of Cyprus’ “Psychological Reconditioning Unit”, setup to deal with any Greek and/or Turkish nationalists who may attempt to cause anti-Cypriot upheaval.

The institution would include effective state funded remedies such as lobotomies, clinical mental rearrangements, and complete mental rebirths, all geared towards Cypriot nationalism… as it should be! :D


Only one position per person, your already head of stupidity section don't be greedy! :lol:
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:45 am

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Nikitas wrote:Bad Boy,

When I do business in France or Italy I find that most people there do not speak English or Greek. I have learned to adapt or not do business. In complex negotiations an interpreter is used. In direct talks I had to learn enough of each language to get along. That is how it will be for TCs wanting to do business in the GC constitutent state, and vice versa. No problem.

In the Federal government, and only there, both languages are used. Again no problem.

The language that will prevail will be the one that allows maximum sales, again no problem.

Will people need to become bilingual. Not if we adopt the Concord model which has been described before- that is people learn to understand, but not speak, the other language. Gaining enough competence to understand is faster and easier than learning to speak. The system has been used before in complex project, like building the Concord airplane, se we know it works. So in conclusion- no problem.


Nikitas, I agree with you, I am living in cyprus and greek/turkish/english is not my first language, and I am doing well enough. BUT when TCs will not have rights in their own country to speak their own mother language? what you think it will look like?

you are offering TCs , come and join us, but you are not allowed to speak in your own language?

in my other posts in this forum I have said that. in United Cyprus nothing will change for TCs, only they will get a greek speaking masters instead of turkish speaking masters.


Why should we accept Greek speaking masters when at least we now understand what is beng spoken.
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Re: What Role do you Personally want to Play, Post Solution?

Postby Get Real! » Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:49 am

yialousa1971 wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:...what aspect to you see as most important for its continued proper functioning?

I’d like to be appointed as head of Cyprus’ “Psychological Reconditioning Unit”, setup to deal with any Greek and/or Turkish nationalists who may attempt to cause anti-Cypriot upheaval.

The institution would include effective state funded remedies such as lobotomies, clinical mental rearrangements, and complete mental rebirths, all geared towards Cypriot nationalism… as it should be! :D

Only one position per person, your already head of stupidity section don't be greedy! :lol:

Yialousa, I have a special place for you in the future Cyprus…

I’d have you bent over on a full time basis to test all Shoushouko production… 8)

And I’m being VERY lenient with you. :wink:
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Postby Oracle » Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:51 am

Bad Boy wrote:you are offering TCs , come and join us, but you are not allowed to speak in your own language?


No ... You've got it all wrong. They are welcome to speak Turkish or Mongolian or French or whatever ... But the country needs only ONE OFFICIAL language, not two or three! :roll:
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Postby Nikitas » Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:51 am

Read this part of my post again Bad Boy:

"That is how it will be for TCs wanting to do business in the GC constitutent state, and vice versa. No problem."

The operative phrase being vice versa, meaning that GCs wanting to do business in the TC constituetn state will have to use Turkish, or hire an interpreter. No problem. No one is forcing anyone to speak any language.

Closest examples I know are Switzerlan, Belgium and Canada, which are multilingual federations. I have been to Switzerland and Belgium, and it really is not big deal for the residents of other cantons dealing with the local languages.
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Postby Oracle » Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:53 am

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Bad Boy wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Bad Boy,

When I do business in France or Italy I find that most people there do not speak English or Greek. I have learned to adapt or not do business. In complex negotiations an interpreter is used. In direct talks I had to learn enough of each language to get along. That is how it will be for TCs wanting to do business in the GC constitutent state, and vice versa. No problem.

In the Federal government, and only there, both languages are used. Again no problem.

The language that will prevail will be the one that allows maximum sales, again no problem.

Will people need to become bilingual. Not if we adopt the Concord model which has been described before- that is people learn to understand, but not speak, the other language. Gaining enough competence to understand is faster and easier than learning to speak. The system has been used before in complex project, like building the Concord airplane, se we know it works. So in conclusion- no problem.


Nikitas, I agree with you, I am living in cyprus and greek/turkish/english is not my first language, and I am doing well enough. BUT when TCs will not have rights in their own country to speak their own mother language? what you think it will look like?

you are offering TCs , come and join us, but you are not allowed to speak in your own language?

in my other posts in this forum I have said that. in United Cyprus nothing will change for TCs, only they will get a greek speaking masters instead of turkish speaking masters.


Why should we accept Greek speaking masters when at least we now understand what is beng spoken.


Stop thinking like a racist and an Imperialist. There will be no masters in our fair and just democracy!
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Postby Bad Boy » Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:54 am

Nikitas wrote:Read this part of my post again Bad Boy:

"That is how it will be for TCs wanting to do business in the GC constitutent state, and vice versa. No problem."

The operative phrase being vice versa, meaning that GCs wanting to do business in the TC constituetn state will have to use Turkish, or hire an interpreter. No problem. No one is forcing anyone to speak any language.

Closest examples I know are Switzerlan, Belgium and Canada, which are multilingual federations. I have been to Switzerland and Belgium, and it really is not big deal for the residents of other cantons dealing with the local languages.


YEs, Exactly, in Belgium i think they have 3 or 4 official languages, as Oracle is proposing 1 official Language idea, will never work. and will show TCs as they are slaves or foreigners in their own country
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Postby Oracle » Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:56 am

Nikitas wrote:Read this part of my post again Bad Boy:

"That is how it will be for TCs wanting to do business in the GC constitutent state, and vice versa. No problem."

The operative phrase being vice versa, meaning that GCs wanting to do business in the TC constituetn state will have to use Turkish, or hire an interpreter. No problem. No one is forcing anyone to speak any language.

Closest examples I know are Switzerlan, Belgium and Canada, which are multilingual federations. I have been to Switzerland and Belgium, and it really is not big deal for the residents of other cantons dealing with the local languages.


Those languages already existed there as part of the indigenous ethnicities and they are compatible and similar in alphabet etc.

Turkish and Greek are from completely different linguistic branches and totally incompatible for many reasons.
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Postby Bad Boy » Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:59 am

Oracle wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Read this part of my post again Bad Boy:

"That is how it will be for TCs wanting to do business in the GC constitutent state, and vice versa. No problem."

The operative phrase being vice versa, meaning that GCs wanting to do business in the TC constituetn state will have to use Turkish, or hire an interpreter. No problem. No one is forcing anyone to speak any language.

Closest examples I know are Switzerlan, Belgium and Canada, which are multilingual federations. I have been to Switzerland and Belgium, and it really is not big deal for the residents of other cantons dealing with the local languages.


Those languages already existed there as part of the indigenous ethnicities and they are compatible and similar in alphabet etc.

Turkish and Greek are from completely different linguistic branches and totally incompatible for many reasons.



Not really, in Belgium there are 2 main languages, French and Dutch, both are completely different!
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Postby Oracle » Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:04 am

Bad Boy wrote:
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Nikitas wrote:Read this part of my post again Bad Boy:

"That is how it will be for TCs wanting to do business in the GC constitutent state, and vice versa. No problem."

The operative phrase being vice versa, meaning that GCs wanting to do business in the TC constituetn state will have to use Turkish, or hire an interpreter. No problem. No one is forcing anyone to speak any language.

Closest examples I know are Switzerlan, Belgium and Canada, which are multilingual federations. I have been to Switzerland and Belgium, and it really is not big deal for the residents of other cantons dealing with the local languages.


Those languages already existed there as part of the indigenous ethnicities and they are compatible and similar in alphabet etc.

Turkish and Greek are from completely different linguistic branches and totally incompatible for many reasons.



Not really, in Belgium there are 2 main languages, French and Dutch, both are completely different!


Those people have been living side by side for THOUSANDS of years. Their languages are Latinized Indo-European. Very similar and compatible! Besides Belgium has a population in the millions. Cyprus is too tiny for two OFFICIAL languages.
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