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Postby Bad Boy » Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:33 am

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Viewpoint wrote:Man these Gcs are unbelievable we have yet to find a solution and htye are trying to get rid of our language...sign of things to come in a united CYPRUS...better the devil we know at least we have our language somewhat improved.


If you care for Cyprus, you should only be interested in what is best for long term stability and get rid of your selfish outdated and outlandish requirements. For such a minuscule minority you will keep causing instabilities if you do not integrate with the ethos of a democratic EU state.



So as far I understood, GCs priority is ''get back the land'' from a united cyprus? human, TCs are 2nd or 3rd priority?
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:35 am

YFred wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Man these Gcs are unbelievable we have yet to find a solution and htye are trying to get rid of our language...sign of things to come in a united CYPRUS...better the devil we know at least we have our language somewhat improved.

VP do not forget that the fascists on the forum are in the minority in Cyprus. Muhtar X knows that which is why perhaps he has adopted TPapa way of negotiation. Delay and hope that the other side walks away. If that should fail, do not recommend it in the referendum. We are used to it by now.


The majority of Tcs have given up on a solution even the fanatical supporters have lost hope and talk of GC intrangience.
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Postby Nikitas » Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:36 am

Bad Boy,

When I do business in France or Italy I find that most people there do not speak English or Greek. I have learned to adapt or not do business. In complex negotiations an interpreter is used. In direct talks I had to learn enough of each language to get along. That is how it will be for TCs wanting to do business in the GC constitutent state, and vice versa. No problem.

In the Federal government, and only there, both languages are used. Again no problem.

The language that will prevail will be the one that allows maximum sales, again no problem.

Will people need to become bilingual. Not if we adopt the Concord model which has been described before- that is people learn to understand, but not speak, the other language. Gaining enough competence to understand is faster and easier than learning to speak. The system has been used before in complex project, like building the Concord airplane, se we know it works. So in conclusion- no problem.
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Re: What Role do you Personally want to Play, Post Solution?

Postby Get Real! » Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:37 am

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Oracle wrote:...what aspect to you see as most important for its continued proper functioning?

I’d like to be appointed as head of Cyprus’ “Psychological Reconditioning Unit”, setup to deal with any Greek and/or Turkish nationalists who may attempt to cause anti-Cypriot upheaval.

The institution would include effective state funded remedies such as lobotomies, clinical mental rearrangements, and complete mental rebirths, all geared towards Cypriot nationalism… as it should be! :D


Renaissance Cyprus will be comfortable with simply being democratic :wink: . But, you agree the schizoid nature of two official languages is unworkable.

Besides, once a solution has been reached, you really must retire your witch-hunt as it will be unnecessary. :D

Your Greek nationalist divisive tendencies, as proven yet again in this thread in trying to make TCs uncomfortable by suggesting the abolition of their language, would earn you an INSTANT admission into my mental health clinic Oracle, and I would do a fine job with that runny jelly enclosed by your cranium… :D
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Postby Oracle » Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:38 am

Viewpoint wrote:
YFred wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Man these Gcs are unbelievable we have yet to find a solution and htye are trying to get rid of our language...sign of things to come in a united CYPRUS...better the devil we know at least we have our language somewhat improved.

VP do not forget that the fascists on the forum are in the minority in Cyprus. Muhtar X knows that which is why perhaps he has adopted TPapa way of negotiation. Delay and hope that the other side walks away. If that should fail, do not recommend it in the referendum. We are used to it by now.


The majority of Tcs have given up on a solution even the fanatical supporters have lost hope and talk of GC intrangience.


Yes, give up on a solution, sit back and let us sort it! :D We promise you only the fairest and best modernist Democracy!
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Re: What Role do you Personally want to Play, Post Solution?

Postby Oracle » Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:39 am

Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:...what aspect to you see as most important for its continued proper functioning?

I’d like to be appointed as head of Cyprus’ “Psychological Reconditioning Unit”, setup to deal with any Greek and/or Turkish nationalists who may attempt to cause anti-Cypriot upheaval.

The institution would include effective state funded remedies such as lobotomies, clinical mental rearrangements, and complete mental rebirths, all geared towards Cypriot nationalism… as it should be! :D


Renaissance Cyprus will be comfortable with simply being democratic :wink: . But, you agree the schizoid nature of two official languages is unworkable.

Besides, once a solution has been reached, you really must retire your witch-hunt as it will be unnecessary. :D

Your Greek nationalist divisive tendencies, as proven yet again in this thread in trying to make TCs uncomfortable by suggesting the abolition of their language, would earn you an INSTANT admission into my mental health clinic Oracle, and I would do a fine job with that runny jelly enclosed by your cranium… :D


I don't really think, that when we have a solution, the TCs will really have much to do with it .... :?


BTW .... I'm not for abolition, just in removing superfluous shackles in an Official capacity.
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Postby YFred » Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:40 am

Viewpoint wrote:
YFred wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Man these Gcs are unbelievable we have yet to find a solution and htye are trying to get rid of our language...sign of things to come in a united CYPRUS...better the devil we know at least we have our language somewhat improved.

VP do not forget that the fascists on the forum are in the minority in Cyprus. Muhtar X knows that which is why perhaps he has adopted TPapa way of negotiation. Delay and hope that the other side walks away. If that should fail, do not recommend it in the referendum. We are used to it by now.


The majority of Tcs have given up on a solution even the fanatical supporters have lost hope and talk of GC intrangience.

It's ironic that Muhtar X has learnt to play Russian roulette with the fate of Cyprus. He should never have been allowed to go to Russia after his election; it was bound to influence him in negative way and pick up a nasty habit or two.
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Postby Bad Boy » Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:43 am

Nikitas wrote:Bad Boy,

When I do business in France or Italy I find that most people there do not speak English or Greek. I have learned to adapt or not do business. In complex negotiations an interpreter is used. In direct talks I had to learn enough of each language to get along. That is how it will be for TCs wanting to do business in the GC constitutent state, and vice versa. No problem.

In the Federal government, and only there, both languages are used. Again no problem.

The language that will prevail will be the one that allows maximum sales, again no problem.

Will people need to become bilingual. Not if we adopt the Concord model which has been described before- that is people learn to understand, but not speak, the other language. Gaining enough competence to understand is faster and easier than learning to speak. The system has been used before in complex project, like building the Concord airplane, se we know it works. So in conclusion- no problem.


Nikitas, I agree with you, I am living in cyprus and greek/turkish/english is not my first language, and I am doing well enough. BUT when TCs will not have rights in their own country to speak their own mother language? what you think it will look like?

you are offering TCs , come and join us, but you are not allowed to speak in your own language?

in my other posts in this forum I have said that. in United Cyprus nothing will change for TCs, only they will get a greek speaking masters instead of turkish speaking masters.
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Re: What Role do you Personally want to Play, Post Solution?

Postby Get Real! » Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:44 am

Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:...what aspect to you see as most important for its continued proper functioning?

I’d like to be appointed as head of Cyprus’ “Psychological Reconditioning Unit”, setup to deal with any Greek and/or Turkish nationalists who may attempt to cause anti-Cypriot upheaval.

The institution would include effective state funded remedies such as lobotomies, clinical mental rearrangements, and complete mental rebirths, all geared towards Cypriot nationalism… as it should be! :D


Renaissance Cyprus will be comfortable with simply being democratic :wink: . But, you agree the schizoid nature of two official languages is unworkable.

Besides, once a solution has been reached, you really must retire your witch-hunt as it will be unnecessary. :D

Your Greek nationalist divisive tendencies, as proven yet again in this thread in trying to make TCs uncomfortable by suggesting the abolition of their language, would earn you an INSTANT admission into my mental health clinic Oracle, and I would do a fine job with that runny jelly enclosed by your cranium… :D


I don't really think, that when we have a solution, the TCs will really have much to do with it .... :?

BTW .... I'm not for abolition, just in removing superfluous shackles in an Official capacity.

Notice how you quickly jumped to remove something that’s precious to them (and of no harm to us) in order to cause upheaval?

You’re EXACTLY why my services would be needed…
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Postby Nikitas » Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:44 am

Any examples of GC intransigence? So far there does not seem to be any extravagant demand that is unreasonable. What I hear time and again is a BBF solution ina ccordance with UN, Eu and internationally accepted human rights principles, with no foreing troops and guarantees. All of that sounds like the description of a modern federal state. So where is the intransigence?
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