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[Viewpoint]

No dead end mate. You will have no choice in the end but to compromise. You cant have it all your own way.

All our way? we dont expect that but we will not be forced into anything we do not want or will give the GCs the upper hand to do as they wish pushing us to one side.

The only thing you will have to accept is international law and the EU acquis......or Fuck off. Simple as that. Nothing else is negotiable. Is that clear enough?

You can fuck off...and accept the staus quo forever we dont have to accept anything.

[GeorgeV97qaue]

No dead end mate. You will have no choice in the end but to compromise. You cant have it all your own way.

All our way? we dont expect that but we will not be forced into anything we do not want or will give the GCs the upper hand to do as they wish pushing us to one side.

There you go again VP with your brain washed mentality. All we want is fair solution where we dont have a Turkey that has a stranglehold on the island but you are too blind to see that.

What do you think we are going to do to you? Commit genocide? We are in the EU. Are they really going to allow a member state commit crimes against its own citizens. Come on VP wake up before its to late and the settlers steal Cyprus from you.

[wallace]

Hypothetically speaking, if the TRNC were a recognised state applying for EU membership it would accept certain principles and rules. Those exact same principles and rules are what it has to accept now, inorder to make the settlement workable in the EU and valid.

It is simple really, no complex mathematics needed.

But no one asked if we wanted ot be in the EU...we are not ready and need transition periods which will include derrogrations, safeguards and guarantees.

Did any other EU applicant get any derrogations? Why should the turks and you get any?? Follow the rules or.... ..

[Viewpoint]

Hypothetically speaking, if the TRNC were a recognised state applying for EU membership it would accept certain principles and rules. Those exact same principles and rules are what it has to accept now, inorder to make the settlement workable in the EU and valid.

It is simple really, no complex mathematics needed.

But no one asked if we wanted ot be in the EU...we are not ready and need transition periods which will include derrogrations, safeguards and guarantees.

Did any other EU applicant get any derrogations? Why should the turks and you get any?? Follow the rules or.... ..

Malta.

[wallace]

No dead end mate. You will have no choice in the end but to compromise. You cant have it all your own way.

All our way? we dont expect that but we will not be forced into anything we do not want or will give the GCs the upper hand to do as they wish pushing us to one side.

The only thing you will have to accept is international law and the EU acquis......or Fuck off. Simple as that. Nothing else is negotiable. Is that clear enough?

You can fuck off...and accept the staus quo forever we dont have to accept anything.

That's true......stay isolated....because that's what will happen......nobody will recognise your created state on stolen land. Sweet dreams

[wallace]

Hypothetically speaking, if the TRNC were a recognised state applying for EU membership it would accept certain principles and rules. Those exact same principles and rules are what it has to accept now, inorder to make the settlement workable in the EU and valid.

It is simple really, no complex mathematics needed.

But no one asked if we wanted ot be in the EU...we are not ready and need transition periods which will include derrogrations, safeguards and guarantees.

Did any other EU applicant get any derrogations? Why should the turks and you get any?? Follow the rules or.... ..

Malta.

Really? What derrogations was that? By the way.....is Malta occopied by the turks?

[Viewpoint]

No dead end mate. You will have no choice in the end but to compromise. You cant have it all your own way.

All our way? we dont expect that but we will not be forced into anything we do not want or will give the GCs the upper hand to do as they wish pushing us to one side.

There you go again VP with your brain washed mentality. All we want is fair solution where we dont have a Turkey that has a stranglehold on the island but you are too blind to see that.

What do you think we are going to do to you? Commit genocide? We are in the EU. Are they really going to allow a member state commit crimes against its own citizens. Come on VP wake up before its to late and the settlers steal Cyprus from you.

George why are you against measures that will not allow you to push us to one side? if you have no intention of doing so why are you so anti precautionary measures? These objections give us a clear indicition that you have hidden agendas to steam roll over us and take control of the whole island both physically and politically.

The settlers issue is a lost case for you Gc and your continous threat is like water off a ducks back we have accepted them as the new generation TCs, we arrived 450 years ago and the 35 years ago so peedling this in the hope of scaring us to capitulate is just not gonna happen. 500.000 and increasing in 30 years times with a populaiton of over 1 million you will be begging for division.

[-mikkie2-]

I think come December, we will be heading for a train crash! Turkey and the TCs just think that they can pick and chose what bits of EU aqcuis suits them. They still don't understand how the EU works.

[Viewpoint]

Hypothetically speaking, if the TRNC were a recognised state applying for EU membership it would accept certain principles and rules. Those exact same principles and rules are what it has to accept now, inorder to make the settlement workable in the EU and valid.

It is simple really, no complex mathematics needed.

But no one asked if we wanted ot be in the EU...we are not ready and need transition periods which will include derrogrations, safeguards and guarantees.

Did any other EU applicant get any derrogations? Why should the turks and you get any?? Follow the rules or.... ..

Malta.

Really? What derrogations was that? By the way.....is Malta occopied by the turks?

Go do your own research and learn.

[Nikitas]

Derogations are possible if they are reasonable ane TEMPORARY. There can be no permanent derogations from EU rules, sbecause the use of such mechanisms would cancel the reason for being of the EU.

TCs have accepted in principle the membership in the EU and the latest statements of Nami show this.

It is totally fesible that the TC constituent state will need time to adjust and heavy funding to set up and maintain EU mandated mechanisms, ie veterinary checks on livestock for one. Obviously such temporary periods of grace are given as they are given in every case.

Eventually, the whole of Cyprus will have to fall in line with the rest of the EU with no deorgations or exceptions. We cannot be the odd man out forever.