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[Viewpoint]

RAFAELLA if the TRNC is the bastard child of Turkey as you so eloquently put it, then who did Turkey F**K???? "RoC"??? ease up on the loaded and disrespectful questions and you may get an answer, otheriwse see a shrink and deal with your problems.

[magikthrill]

RAFAELLA if the TRNC is the bastard child of Turkey as you so eloquently put it, then who did Turkey F**K???? "RoC"??? ease up on the loaded and disrespectful questions and you may get an answer, otheriwse see a shrink and deal with your problems.

Turkey raped the RoC and hence the bastard child. I think that analogy is quite fit.

[cannedmoose]

Turkey raped the RoC and hence the bastard child. I think that analogy is quite fit.

However, drawing the analogy to its natural conclusion, the rapist remains in the child's life, through the payment of pocket money and provision of advice and 'protection'. To be a 'bastard' implies that the father is not present in the child's life, whereas we all know that in this case the father is very much a part of it. New analogy please.

[demetriou_74]

[quote="gabaston"]

like i asked- what in cyprus is actually legal? - for there to be legal there must be a constitution that defines legal. there is no accepted constitution.
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Cyprus has an European and Internationally recognised government. But as for the GC-TC legallities it would be hard to hold something down as TRNC does not have a recognised government. But unless the cyprus problem is fixed they are unlikely to be recognised. Sadly you cant do one without doing the other first. so a 'constitution' could be written and agreed to but who would uphold such a constitution?

The EU you say but they are afraid to take sides when it comes to making passign blame. Such event would be genocide/property.

[gabaston]

thanks demitriou


i cant help feeling that the younger generation's post on this forum are far more civil than our posts. I think this bodes well for the future of cyprus and that the younger generation are able to turn their backs on the hatred we tolerate.

The constitution has to be agreed by all parties, and once agreed respected by all.

[insan]

Why should Turkey have forced Hellenic ruling elite to accept something(a bi-communal unitary state with two politically equal communities under the guarantorship of Turkey, Greece and Britain) they had/have never wanted? Hellenes struggled for a Hellene dominated Cyprus for more than 100 years. Turks weren't/aren't blind not to see the aims of Hellenes.

The source of Enosis idea is "megalo idea". However the source of Taksim is the Ottoman history in Cyprus, existence of TC community in Cyprus and Turkey's geo-political interests in East Mediterennean region. The two "tribes" struggled for their self-interests throughout the history. GC ruling elite joined to Greek ruling elite and TC ruling elite joined to Turkish ruling elite in this struggle.

The struggle between the two tribes still going on in direction of their conflicting self-interests. So why do you insist on calling the defacto situation "invasion or occupation"?

It is obvious that both parties(GCs and TCs included too) still have the same conflicting self-interests over Cyprus. Logically under the same circumstances, the same reasons; give the same results: Defacto situation.

[MicAtCyp]

If it were like that then demilitarisation of Cyprus would satisfy both Greece and Turkey. No, the reasons are deeper than that. For Turkey it is for keeping the results of their one and only "winning" war. They need something to show their masses to shiver at the parades.

[MicAtCyp]

i cant help feeling that the younger generation's post on this forum are far more civil than our posts. I think this bodes well for the future of cyprus and that the younger generation are able to turn their backs on the hatred we tolerate.

I think you are jumping into conclussions.The younger generation that you refer to IS NOT living in Cyprus. I also try to make some conclussions in relation to age and place of living.Here are my observations however I cannot say I am absolutely sure:
People upto 20 years old:Total ignorance.
From 20-30:a)Living in Cyprus: extreme positions b)Living abroad: ??

[insan]

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[insan]

If it were like that then demilitarisation of Cyprus would satisfy both Greece and Turkey. No, the reasons are deeper than that. For Turkey it is for keeping the results of their one and only "winning" war. They need something to show their masses to shiver at the parades.

So Turkey should thank Greek Junta Oooops CIA I mean... So superficial and public minded my friend.