zan wrote:GeorgeV97qaue wrote:MrH wrote:Kikapu, I agree with you on the picture and will change it when I get back from my
Travels.
Hermes,
Everyone in the legal profession, particularly in the United Kingdom, its people and government all know what the GCs did Behind the scenes and who the legal panel were before the judgement was made, which is why the British Courts have taken the ECJ decision with a pinch of salt. And, which you will soon realise, with the way the British handle such politically motivated decision, just how the European Court should have dealt with such a racist, one-sided case. Additionally, you also need to understand that the ECJ is not, and was not, ever a unanimous decision, hence why the ECJ ruling is not rippled via the United Kingdom courts, and was not also agreed upon by all EU member states.
But what's more important is how such a case will be treated later (both politically and within the framework of the overall resumption of the Cyprus problem), how it will and could affect Turkey's so called “EU aspiration” and what the EU will ultimately do when faced with a REAL decision making crisis? Let me tell you in simple terms Hermes: When the EU is finally faced with making a decision as to whether to accept Turkey as an EU member state or follow the demands of a few Greek Cypriots and their racist property campaigns, mark my words that the Cyprus situation will be dropped like a bad habit! The Greek Cypriot side of Cyprus may be recognised as an EU member under the current hijacked title of the ROC covering the entire island (which the EU have admitted that mistake countless of times), but in order to remain as the "ROC" a solution to the island's political problem must be agreed. This is where you will either have to yield to a Federal solution of two constituent states, otherwise it will drag on forever and Turkey will either abandon its EU aspirations (which is possible!), or the "representing the entire island" mistake made by the EU will be dropped under a mountain of pressure from the other EU countries in let's say the year 2018 (when you are faced with a completely different EU, Turkey and geopolitical situation). Do you understand? Or are you going to continue to assume that the EU see sunshine out of only the a Greek Cypriot window?
Apart from the above, the other aspect to all this is that Britain is still a Guarantor country of Cyprus who has Clearly stated its fault lines regarding the Cyprus political property issue in the past; how they will not be forced to get involved, hence bye bye the Orams case come November. And you are wrong to assume that this case is built on anything other than ULTIMATELY securing a quick payoff, cementing Partition and placing the TRNC on the UN map - when the time is right of course, unless of course the so called original GC owners of their pre1974 plan on relocating to Northern Cyprus TRNC. What you simply fail to realise here is that the EU Do not have a very favourable track record in dealing with issues that cross that legal-political Line, if you know your history in that particular area?
Therefore the more complicated the Cyprus issue becomes, the less likely a solution is found and the more likely partition will be made legal and accepted at an international level. Continue with your court cases and arguments against us as you are only serving our Two republic state idea of a solution. The only solution base the EU has accepted in recent years with conflict type Political scenarios - like Yugoslavia for instance.
Please tell you don't believe the EU and the United Kingdom are so in love with the Greek Cypriot administered ROC that they will COMPLETELY dismiss a country like Turkey and it's tiny, little demand for Northern Cyprus! (in a political sense of course!).
You seriously should read a couple of books on how conflicts of the past have been solved, how they all suddenly switched in a flash after years of perseverance and patient waiting for some political advantage to crop up. The TRNC will one day be an internationally recognised entity and your President Christofias is clearly aware of this - trust me on this one.
You are talking a load of rubbish. Listen mate just because Turkey doesnt obay the laws doesnt mean the Britian doesnt. You are theives we want our land back end of.
You are murderers and we want our rights back under the Zurich agreement and THATS it!!!!
Give it a rest Zan, if you insist on rights under Zurich agreement why the hell is Turkey occupying and settling in Cyprus. The Zurich Agreement afforded Turkey intervention not occupation rghts, you can't pick and choose which bits you want - unless you use force of course.
