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[B25]

Dear Kikapu, being the gentleman that you are, why lower yourself to the level of these low lifes .

Perhaps when you have taken the money you would be good enough to donate it to some worthwhile charity, since as you must know it will be blood money you will be getting. At least if you give it to charity you will cut the haram of it.
All the best to you sir, but be careful with whom you are dealing as these crooks cannot be trusted.

[zan]

Yep. Like a sick animal, it should be put out of its misery. I had so much hope for Muhtar X but had serious doubts when he made the deal with TPapa for their votes he sold his soul to the devil and the Cypriots down the river at the same time.
I think in 6 months time even the UN will finally accept it and they will start the process.

Do you want to wager a little money on that YFred, like couple of Thousand $$$$$ or £££££ perhaps. You can choose the currency. We'll get a trusted individual to hold the money. What do you say.?

After you pay your last dept, I'll take you on. It'll be my pleasure to clean you out twice.

There is no back debt. You backed out of the deal, and rightly so too, but lets not go there. That's in the past. This is a very simple up and down wager. All is needed is a trusted secure hands in the UK who can hold the cash. No other information is needed from our lives...just HARD CASH. Right now Deniz is the best candidate available to be the "escrow man".! What do you say.?

Too much time drifting on the wave me thinks.....

[Kikapu]

Dear Kikapu, being the gentleman that you are, why lower yourself to the level of these low lifes .

Perhaps when you have taken the money you would be good enough to donate it to some worthwhile charity, since as you must know it will be blood money you will be getting. At least if you give it to charity you will cut the haram of it.
All the best to you sir, but be careful with whom you are dealing as these crooks cannot be trusted.

Thanks for the sound advice, B25.! I do not want any Haram money from anyone.!

I'll give all the winnings to Miltiades to give to any charity of his choosing. I'm sure he has one or two in mind, one in particular, I'm sure..!

[YFred]

Yep. Like a sick animal, it should be put out of its misery. I had so much hope for Muhtar X but had serious doubts when he made the deal with TPapa for their votes he sold his soul to the devil and the Cypriots down the river at the same time.
I think in 6 months time even the UN will finally accept it and they will start the process.

Do you want to wager a little money on that YFred, like couple of Thousand $$$$$ or £££££ perhaps. You can choose the currency. We'll get a trusted individual to hold the money. What do you say.?

Rah Fredoulla, I would be delighted to look after your share of this wager.

You know I can be trusted.

Reh PushdoCharlui, bu em bunna do valis mesdo golossu. Enna ksinniasi je endo thelo re.

[YFred]

Yep. Like a sick animal, it should be put out of its misery. I had so much hope for Muhtar X but had serious doubts when he made the deal with TPapa for their votes he sold his soul to the devil and the Cypriots down the river at the same time.
I think in 6 months time even the UN will finally accept it and they will start the process.

Do you want to wager a little money on that YFred, like couple of Thousand $$$$$ or £££££ perhaps. You can choose the currency. We'll get a trusted individual to hold the money. What do you say.?

After you pay your last dept, I'll take you on. It'll be my pleasure to clean you out twice.

There is no back debt. You backed out of the deal, and rightly so too, but lets not go there. That's in the past. This is a very simple up and down wager. All is needed is a trusted secure hands in the UK who can hold the cash. No other information is needed from our lives...just HARD CASH. Right now Deniz is the best candidate available to be the "escrow man".! What do you say.?

You have Deniz to thank for that. But keep taking the medication. You do know that OCD develops into madness, don't you? Or is it too late?

[Kikapu]

Yep. Like a sick animal, it should be put out of its misery. I had so much hope for Muhtar X but had serious doubts when he made the deal with TPapa for their votes he sold his soul to the devil and the Cypriots down the river at the same time.
I think in 6 months time even the UN will finally accept it and they will start the process.

Do you want to wager a little money on that YFred, like couple of Thousand $$$$$ or £££££ perhaps. You can choose the currency. We'll get a trusted individual to hold the money. What do you say.?

After you pay your last dept, I'll take you on. It'll be my pleasure to clean you out twice.

There is no back debt. You backed out of the deal, and rightly so too, but lets not go there. That's in the past. This is a very simple up and down wager. All is needed is a trusted secure hands in the UK who can hold the cash. No other information is needed from our lives...just HARD CASH. Right now Deniz is the best candidate available to be the "escrow man".! What do you say.?

You have Deniz to thank for that. But keep taking the medication. You do know that OCD develops into madness, don't you? Or is it too late?

Are you going to wager or you are going to make noise all night.?

[YFred]

Yep. Like a sick animal, it should be put out of its misery. I had so much hope for Muhtar X but had serious doubts when he made the deal with TPapa for their votes he sold his soul to the devil and the Cypriots down the river at the same time.
I think in 6 months time even the UN will finally accept it and they will start the process.

Do you want to wager a little money on that YFred, like couple of Thousand $$$$$ or £££££ perhaps. You can choose the currency. We'll get a trusted individual to hold the money. What do you say.?

After you pay your last dept, I'll take you on. It'll be my pleasure to clean you out twice.

There is no back debt. You backed out of the deal, and rightly so too, but lets not go there. That's in the past. This is a very simple up and down wager. All is needed is a trusted secure hands in the UK who can hold the cash. No other information is needed from our lives...just HARD CASH. Right now Deniz is the best candidate available to be the "escrow man".! What do you say.?

You have Deniz to thank for that. But keep taking the medication. You do know that OCD develops into madness, don't you? Or is it too late?

Are you going to wager or you are going to make noise all night.?

Till you pay up your last dept which you crapped out of, I will just ignore you. Knowing your OCD it will really crack you up because you love being the centre of attraction. I would get all your other issues sorted as well if I was you.

[Viewpoint]

VP would you be able to explain what political equality means for you?

cheers

Each consituent state has the same weight politically 50-50 and reserves the right to stop any decisions on sensative matters effecting that state more negatively than the other. This can be in the shape of 2 houses upper and lower...the lower being proportional represenstation the upper house 50-50 with noway of one state stealing the others seats.

So your idea of political equality being totally undemocratic for starters, which would mean already violating the Federal Constitution as well as individuals democratic and Human Rights, but lets just go along with it for a minute and ask you how you would prevent when one of the 50% upper house state senators ask the people of their state to vote for a independence in a referendum and as soon as the majority of that state says yes (only the TCs voting in the north and only the GCs voting in the south on such a referendum), they will walk off the government to create a constitutional crises. This is the reason why your idea of political equality is flawed and it can never be accepted by the GCs I believe. It will make it way too easy for the repeat of 1963 all over again.!

Why should there be a referendum for independence? This can only be done if both states agree 100%.

The key is to strike a balance between the 2 states where one cannot push the other one to one side espeically on sensatives. A % of the from both sides in both houses can be demanded to get a bill through, the majority of decisions will be for the benfit of the country so why should anyone vote against it? your persistent not to incorporate safeguards just fuels mistrust and the feeling that GCs want to use their numerical advantage to steam roller over the TCs and take contol of the whole island which has always been their ultiamate goal.

[Viewpoint]

VP thank you for your definition above.

Firstly I disagree because it will lead to many problems and violates human rights. I cannot see how in a democratic country you can dictate to people where they live and secondly deny them the right to vote.

I hope that the UN does not approve such a plan because it will be violating the rights of people and that is not a world that I at least wish future generations to grow up in.

Once again thanks for taking the time out, to respond to my question.

How does it violates anyones rights everyone will have a vote and representation in both the lower and upper houses.

[Viewpoint]

Nothing has been agreed or put forward for referendum yet although we in the north think it never will, you are speculating what President Talat will demand goes in a final agreement as if you know. You are not god and you are not Chritofiyas (might be wrong there) so stop talking out of your arse which appears to be your speciality.

We are not talking about what may be presented in a referendum. We are talking about what Talat was complaining just yesterday, that Christofias was not abiding by the agreed agreement signed by both Talat and Christofias March 2008. Christifias is reading the agreement at face value as it was written, but Talat is saying that it should read "Founding States" and yet no such words appear anywhere. No wonder Talat is being ignored by the UN and the EU of his claims, because what Talat and you claim, the "Founding states" are not in the agreement.!

Nothing is final until it is agreed by both sides, so there will be plenty of interpretations of the ideas surrounding BBF with political equality....President Talat supports a virgin birth ideology whereas Christifias supports an evolution of the "RoC" into a federation, they will have to meet somewhere in the middle.