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114 thousand Turkish settlers will be granted “citizenship”

Postby Lit » Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:29 pm

Turkish Cypriot Yeni Duzen reports that 114 thousand Turkish settlers will be granted the “citizenship” of the breakaway regime

Under the title “114 thousand new citizens are lining up”, Turkish Cypriot daily Yeni Duzen newspaper (29.09.09) refers to information published last weekend in Greek Cypriot daily Politis newspaper and data given by Turkish Cypriot KADEM Research Company on the issue of the population in the occupied areas of Cyprus and the illegal settlers. The paper reports that according to KADEM, there are 198.000 “citizens” in the occupied areas of Cyprus. The “Cypriot” population, including the mixed marriages, is 122.000. The rest 70.000 are persons who came from Turkey and settled in the occupied part of Cyprus. Yeni Duzen’s journalist, Mrs Aysu Basri Akter writes, inter alia, the following in her daily column:

“...KADEM’s director, Muharrem Faiz has stated that the Cypriots, whom he divided according to their origin as I wrote before, are 107 thousand. It is noted that at the moment 347 thousand persons are residing permanently on the island. University students, families of army officers and citizens of third countries of the world are included in them. Politis gives these numbers and underlines that the proportion of the foreigners in the Cypriot population is 53%. And stressing that especially the weight of those who vote is 37%, it describes this 37% as a mass which said by 60-70% no in the referendum and it usually votes for the right wing parties. ...”

Mrs Akter adds that she wrote the same numbers in Yeni Duzen after an interview with Mr Muharrem Faiz. She reminds that in 2004, the sides had agreed on a list of 50.000 persons who would stay in Cyprus, but the Turkish side was able to give a list of around 43.000 persons. She goes on and says:

“In the five years that passed since 2004, this number has now reached to 70 thousand. That is, in five years time another 27 thousand persons became citizens. Now the National Unity Party (UBP) declares that it will give the citizenship to the persons who reside here permanently for five years. And the embassy of the Republic of Turkey says that ‘our advice is also in this direction, those who reside here for five years should be able to take the citizenship’. The procedures regarding the citizenship vary according to the conditions existing in every country, but the five year of permanent residence is a method which could be implemented generally. Where? In many western countries. Faiz points out that the percentage of the foreigners in these western countries varies between 10-14%. This is five times more in our country! 53%! And Faiz establishes something which is even more impressive. After taking the families of the army officers and the students in the universities out of the 347 persons who reside in Northern Cyprus permanently, the number of those who remain is 114 thousand. A part of these persons live in Cyprus for one year, another part for five years and others for more than five years. That is, this means that the project of the UBP is potentially 114 thousand new citizens! Very well, is the situation really this? No! The 114 thousand citizenships, if for example the citizenship is granted to the males, include the spouse and the children and the number of citizens increases in a manner that cannot be controlled. There were persons who took the citizenship automatically in a considerable part of the 27 thousand citizenships which came up in five years. Over the citizenship of one person new citizenships are developed for many years in the form o chain...”
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Re: 114 thousand Turkish settlers will be granted “citizensh

Postby denizaksulu » Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:37 pm

Lit wrote:Turkish Cypriot Yeni Duzen reports that 114 thousand Turkish settlers will be granted the “citizenship” of the breakaway regime

Under the title “114 thousand new citizens are lining up”, Turkish Cypriot daily Yeni Duzen newspaper (29.09.09) refers to information published last weekend in Greek Cypriot daily Politis newspaper and data given by Turkish Cypriot KADEM Research Company on the issue of the population in the occupied areas of Cyprus and the illegal settlers. The paper reports that according to KADEM, there are 198.000 “citizens” in the occupied areas of Cyprus. The “Cypriot” population, including the mixed marriages, is 122.000. The rest 70.000 are persons who came from Turkey and settled in the occupied part of Cyprus. Yeni Duzen’s journalist, Mrs Aysu Basri Akter writes, inter alia, the following in her daily column:

“...KADEM’s director, Muharrem Faiz has stated that the Cypriots, whom he divided according to their origin as I wrote before, are 107 thousand. It is noted that at the moment 347 thousand persons are residing permanently on the island. University students, families of army officers and citizens of third countries of the world are included in them. Politis gives these numbers and underlines that the proportion of the foreigners in the Cypriot population is 53%. And stressing that especially the weight of those who vote is 37%, it describes this 37% as a mass which said by 60-70% no in the referendum and it usually votes for the right wing parties. ...”

Mrs Akter adds that she wrote the same numbers in Yeni Duzen after an interview with Mr Muharrem Faiz. She reminds that in 2004, the sides had agreed on a list of 50.000 persons who would stay in Cyprus, but the Turkish side was able to give a list of around 43.000 persons. She goes on and says:

“In the five years that passed since 2004, this number has now reached to 70 thousand. That is, in five years time another 27 thousand persons became citizens. Now the National Unity Party (UBP) declares that it will give the citizenship to the persons who reside here permanently for five years. And the embassy of the Republic of Turkey says that ‘our advice is also in this direction, those who reside here for five years should be able to take the citizenship’. The procedures regarding the citizenship vary according to the conditions existing in every country, but the five year of permanent residence is a method which could be implemented generally. Where? In many western countries. Faiz points out that the percentage of the foreigners in these western countries varies between 10-14%. This is five times more in our country! 53%! And Faiz establishes something which is even more impressive. After taking the families of the army officers and the students in the universities out of the 347 persons who reside in Northern Cyprus permanently, the number of those who remain is 114 thousand. A part of these persons live in Cyprus for one year, another part for five years and others for more than five years. That is, this means that the project of the UBP is potentially 114 thousand new citizens! Very well, is the situation really this? No! The 114 thousand citizenships, if for example the citizenship is granted to the males, include the spouse and the children and the number of citizens increases in a manner that cannot be controlled. There were persons who took the citizenship automatically in a considerable part of the 27 thousand citizenships which came up in five years. Over the citizenship of one person new citizenships are developed for many years in the form o chain...”



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Postby paliometoxo » Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:52 pm

slowly slowly turkey is going to try grant them all "trnc" turkish invaded north of cyprus “citizenship”
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A very tricky issue...

Postby cymart » Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:25 pm

If Talat openly says that a large number of settlers will be expected to return to Turkey after a solution he will lose a referendum vote and the elections in April 2010 for the simple reason that these people are now the majority of voters in the north!Of course giving them a financial incentive to leave is another way of dealing with this problem which will reduce their numbers to a level which the G.C. leadership is prepared to compromise on.
This subject is a dangerous can of worms which is far worse than it appears to be on the surface and a lot more complicated...
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Postby wallace » Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:50 pm

Maybe these dumb fucking turks should start with learning how to read first!! While they're at it.....let them start with the fourth Geneva Convention. These plonkers still life in the middleages. There is no way you can negotiate with 3rd world politicians. They believe they own the world. 8)
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Postby Oracle » Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:54 pm

114 thousand Turkish settlers will be granted “citizenship


Turkey can grant them all Nobel Peace Prizes for all the validity they'll have ... :roll:
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Postby paliometoxo » Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:56 pm

christofias offerd that many turks citizenship but they did not reply from what i read
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Postby yiannisP » Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:04 pm

What part of the Geneva convention (grave breaches of which are war crimes) does he not understand and think can be waived for political expediency? It's time to bring these jokers to trial.

Art. 4 -The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.


Art. 147. - Grave breaches to which the preceding Article relates shall be those involving any of the following acts, if committed against persons or property protected by the present Convention: wilful killing, torture or inhuman treatment, including biological experiments, wilfully causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health, unlawful deportation or transfer or unlawful confinement of a protected person, compelling a protected person to serve in the forces of a hostile Power, or wilfully depriving a protected person of the rights of fair and regular trial prescribed in the present Convention, taking of hostages and extensive destruction and appropriation of property, not justified by military necessity and carried out unlawfully and wantonly.

http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/7c4d08d9b28 ... 1e004aa3c5
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:17 pm

Oracle wrote:
114 thousand Turkish settlers will be granted “citizenship


Turkey can grant them all Nobel Peace Prizes for all the validity they'll have ... :roll:



Ignore these at our own peril. Turkey is very 'calculating'. Everything is done for a purpose. The more the delay, who will get them out? Then Abracadabra - we have a new bunny - The Vilayet of Northern Alasya.
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Postby kurupetos » Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:27 pm

The "TRNC" will kick the Brits out and replace them with settlers. Excellent idea! :lol:
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