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Why do the Turkish Cypriots need an army?

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby insan » Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:21 pm

Oracle wrote:
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Hermes wrote:
zan wrote:
Hermes wrote:As we all know, one of the roles of the Turkish army in the north is to keep the T/Cs in their northern enclave and to gradually replace them with settlers from Anatolia until there are no T/Cs left. It would be ironic if T/Cs are actually serving in the army that actually seeks to eliminate them. But nothing would surprise me.

From 200,000 down to 75,000 in a few decades. Even the most extreme G/C nationalists couldn't have done the job as effectively as the Turks. Turkey has committed another genocide. This time of the T/Cs.


Can you tell me where you were so generous in our preservation.... :roll:
The numbers don't lie. The T/Cs were once the largest minority in Cyprus. Since the Turkish occupation they are now a minority within an enclave without recognition or status. It's a terrible fall.

Not even the most extreme G/C could imagine such an act of ethnic elimination and exodus. The irony is that it is entirely self-inflicted. The T/Cs have no-one to blame but themselves. They turned to mother Turkey only to find that Turkey couldn't care less about their survival or their culture.

It's probably too late for the T/Cs. Their only hope is a place in a united Cyprus within the EU which guarantees their human rights. Something that Turkey cannot give them. Time is running out fast. Soon the T/Cs might go the way of the dodo. 75,000 left. That is close to an endangered species.


TCs, primarily emigrated because of economic reasons... most of them have second homes in TRNC. Living abroad does not mean TCs r becoming extinct in TRNC. Most of them looking forward to return their homeland when better economic circumstances appear.


What an idiotic statement ... :shock:

Is Cyprus just about "holiday homes" for TCs then?

What a waste ... :roll:


Yeah... holiday homes for some and for some others extra income from rentals until they return TRNC to reside permenantly... U look unhappy, why?... :?


I do NOT take kindly to Cyprus being used simply for monetary gains!

Get lost greedy Turks! :evil:


80% ur alikes contributed to creation of TRNC and it's circumstances! Blame ur alikes, greedy Oracle! :twisted:
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Postby EricSeans » Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:26 pm

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EricSeans wrote:Bad Boy wrote: "For proud nations Flag is symbol of their pride, not just a piece of cloth. solomos didn't remember this or may be he wasn't thinking that Turks are a proud nation."

Any nation which behaves in the barbaric way the Turks/TC forces did on that day shows its security forces to be a murderous, indisciplined rabble and their flag to be a worthless, bloodstained rag.


People all over the world have died or killed defending their flag, so your little comment about the TRNC flag doesn't really cut any ice, considering that the person who was shot while scaling that pole was given due warning and chose to ignore it. That's not martyrdom. That was stupidity.


There is never any excuse for murder and I can't understand why you would try to justify this killing. Professional soldiers in NATO armies have rules of engagement. You do not open fire on an unarmed civilian who poses no risk to your personal safety. Anyone who commits such a crime brings shame on his uniform and his country - and renders the flag a worthless, bloodstained rag.
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Postby YFred » Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:26 pm

Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Hermes wrote:
zan wrote:
Hermes wrote:As we all know, one of the roles of the Turkish army in the north is to keep the T/Cs in their northern enclave and to gradually replace them with settlers from Anatolia until there are no T/Cs left. It would be ironic if T/Cs are actually serving in the army that actually seeks to eliminate them. But nothing would surprise me.

From 200,000 down to 75,000 in a few decades. Even the most extreme G/C nationalists couldn't have done the job as effectively as the Turks. Turkey has committed another genocide. This time of the T/Cs.


Can you tell me where you were so generous in our preservation.... :roll:
The numbers don't lie. The T/Cs were once the largest minority in Cyprus. Since the Turkish occupation they are now a minority within an enclave without recognition or status. It's a terrible fall.

Not even the most extreme G/C could imagine such an act of ethnic elimination and exodus. The irony is that it is entirely self-inflicted. The T/Cs have no-one to blame but themselves. They turned to mother Turkey only to find that Turkey couldn't care less about their survival or their culture.

It's probably too late for the T/Cs. Their only hope is a place in a united Cyprus within the EU which guarantees their human rights. Something that Turkey cannot give them. Time is running out fast. Soon the T/Cs might go the way of the dodo. 75,000 left. That is close to an endangered species.


TCs, primarily emigrated because of economic reasons... most of them have second homes in TRNC. Living abroad does not mean TCs r becoming extinct in TRNC. Most of them looking forward to return their homeland when better economic circumstances appear.


What an idiotic statement ... :shock:

Is Cyprus just about "holiday homes" for TCs then?

What a waste ... :roll:


Yeah... holiday homes for some and for some others extra income from rentals until they return TRNC to reside permenantly... U look unhappy, why?... :?


I do NOT take kindly to Cyprus being used simply for monetary gains!

Get lost greedy Turks! :evil:

What will I do. I have been found out as holiday home owner. I can feel another curse being organised via the GO church. But I'll be ok, I have a shield of truth to protect me. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby YFred » Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:29 pm

EricSeans wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
EricSeans wrote:Bad Boy wrote: "For proud nations Flag is symbol of their pride, not just a piece of cloth. solomos didn't remember this or may be he wasn't thinking that Turks are a proud nation."

Any nation which behaves in the barbaric way the Turks/TC forces did on that day shows its security forces to be a murderous, indisciplined rabble and their flag to be a worthless, bloodstained rag.


People all over the world have died or killed defending their flag, so your little comment about the TRNC flag doesn't really cut any ice, considering that the person who was shot while scaling that pole was given due warning and chose to ignore it. That's not martyrdom. That was stupidity.


There is never any excuse for murder and I can't understand why you would try to justify this killing. Professional soldiers in NATO armies have rules of engagement. You do not open fire on an unarmed civilian who poses no risk to your personal safety. Anyone who commits such a crime brings shame on his uniform and his country - and renders the flag a worthless, bloodstained rag.

I agree with regarding killing unarmed man under any circumstances. But I think you will find that Nato soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan have not been that honourable either. War changes people, it removes their humanity.
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Postby Hermes » Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:31 pm

insan wrote:TCs, primarily emigrated because of economic reasons... most of them have second homes in TRNC. Living abroad does not mean TCs r becoming extinct in TRNC. Most of them looking forward to return their homeland when better economic circumstances appear.


Then they will be waiting a very long time. There can be no economic recovery without a solution. Only continued isolation and stagnation. Besides, their second "homes" as you know are legally owned by Greek Cypriots who will demand them back in a solution.

The only hope for the T/Cs is within a united Cyprus within the EU. Any other option will end in extinction. If you believe the Turks will protect the interests of the T/Cs then you are deluded. Turkish actions in the last three decades have resulted in isolation, economic ruin and mass emigration. Even the G/Cs haven't inflicted such a disaster on you.

It's time to put an end to the nightmare and save yourselves before it's too late.

Remember the dodo...
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Postby insan » Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:36 pm

Hermes wrote:
insan wrote:TCs, primarily emigrated because of economic reasons... most of them have second homes in TRNC. Living abroad does not mean TCs r becoming extinct in TRNC. Most of them looking forward to return their homeland when better economic circumstances appear.


Then they will be waiting a very long time. There can be no economic recovery without a solution. Only continued isolation and stagnation. Besides, their second "homes" as you know are legally owned by Greek Cypriots who will demand them back in a solution.

The only hope for the T/Cs is within a united Cyprus within the EU. Any other option will end in extinction. If you believe the Turks will protect the interests of the T/Cs then you are deluded. Turkish actions in the last three decades have resulted in isolation, economic ruin and mass emigration. Even the G/Cs haven't inflicted such a disaster on you.
It's time to put an end to the nightmare and save yourselves before it's too late.

Remember the dodo...


80% ur alikes r responsible of this "disaster". I won't blame all GCs or all Greeks...
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:36 pm

Hermes wrote:
insan wrote:TCs, primarily emigrated because of economic reasons... most of them have second homes in TRNC. Living abroad does not mean TCs r becoming extinct in TRNC. Most of them looking forward to return their homeland when better economic circumstances appear.


Then they will be waiting a very long time. There can be no economic recovery without a solution. Only continued isolation and stagnation. Besides, their second "homes" as you know are legally owned by Greek Cypriots who will demand them back in a solution.

The only hope for the T/Cs is within a united Cyprus within the EU. Any other option will end in extinction. If you believe the Turks will protect the interests of the T/Cs then you are deluded. Turkish actions in the last three decades have resulted in isolation, economic ruin and mass emigration. Even the G/Cs haven't inflicted such a disaster on you.

It's time to put an end to the nightmare and save yourselves before it's too late.

Remember the dodo...


500.000 and growing is better than assimilation by GCs when will you understand this? Its better for us to assimilate with new generation TCs, TCs know there will never be a solution and have accepted their fate why are you so concerned...another 100 years of division and you will be begging for partition.
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Postby paliometoxo » Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:37 pm

even if there was another 100 years of division why would that make anyone beg for partition?
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Postby wallace » Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:43 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Hermes wrote:
insan wrote:TCs, primarily emigrated because of economic reasons... most of them have second homes in TRNC. Living abroad does not mean TCs r becoming extinct in TRNC. Most of them looking forward to return their homeland when better economic circumstances appear.


Then they will be waiting a very long time. There can be no economic recovery without a solution. Only continued isolation and stagnation. Besides, their second "homes" as you know are legally owned by Greek Cypriots who will demand them back in a solution.

The only hope for the T/Cs is within a united Cyprus within the EU. Any other option will end in extinction. If you believe the Turks will protect the interests of the T/Cs then you are deluded. Turkish actions in the last three decades have resulted in isolation, economic ruin and mass emigration. Even the G/Cs haven't inflicted such a disaster on you.

It's time to put an end to the nightmare and save yourselves before it's too late.

Remember the dodo...


500.000 and growing is better than assimilation by GCs when will you understand this? Its better for us to assimilate with new generation TCs, TCs know there will never be a solution and have accepted their fate why are you so concerned...another 100 years of division and you will be begging for partition.


You still forget 1 thing plonker! Read the fourth Geneva Convention! War crimes being committed today by importing settlers. You and your turkish fucking army wont get away with it. Time will tell. Don't moan when you'll have to pay for your crimes idiot.
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Postby Hermes » Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:30 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
500.000 and growing is better than assimilation by GCs when will you understand this? Its better for us to assimilate with new generation TCs, TCs know there will never be a solution and have accepted their fate why are you so concerned...another 100 years of division and you will be begging for partition.


What "new generation T/Cs"? They've all gone. You mean the Anatolian goat-herders who have been brought over because there's nobody else left in the north? You want to assimilate with them now? Become an Anatolian goat-herder too? That is a high ambition. Good luck.
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