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[London]

Turkish Cypriots need an army so the greeks dont start killing us again!!

When did Greeks start killing you?

(Please leave your dreams out of the answer.)

Errr during the 50's, 60's 70's. Or is this something else that you're going to deny!

In fact all the killings were started by the Turks. In 1571, 1821 (and everything in between), in 1958 (inter-communal conflict) and 1974, all started by the Turks and TCs.

Thank you, Piratis.

He is probably still lying on the floor having fainted with shock at the realisation he has wasted his life believing the "great lie".

When he is "responsive" again, go easy with the evidence (he may be unaccustomed to receiving facts).

I suppose you think it was the British that attacked you first when you were striving for Enosis!!

The British attacked us first when they "bought" us like slaves, then continued to treat us as such throughout their Imperial rule.

We were not the only ones to retaliate against British rule by seeking our freedom ...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but EOKA targeted both GC's and TC's as well as the British? So wouldnt that mean that it was the Greeks that started the violence in the 50's which lead to future events?

You're not listening.

EOKA was fighting for freedom from nearly a century of oppression by the British imperialists. How is that "starting the violence"?

The TCs were never targets until they started the (FIRST) attacks against GCs fighting for freedom.

Maybe you should let Piratis give you the whole portfolio of facts ... just to save time.

Fighting for freedom?? Ha I did chuckle at that.

Piratis doesnt need to do anything, I dont have time to read rubbish!

Well, you came here clearly having been fed on a diet of rubbish. If you cannot stomach the truth, then you're better off back to your junk sites.

The information Ive received hasnt been from junk sites, its been from family members that were living in fear from the Greeks/GC's!!

[Omer Seyhan]

Do the Turkish Cypriot serve in the Turkish army? If so, why would they serve a country where they aren't citizens? If I drafted in the Canadian army wouldn't I be a citizen? So if Turkish Cypriots are drafted in the Turkish army then are they not Turkish citizens?

Are the Gurkhas slaves?

[Oracle]

Well, you came here clearly having been fed on a diet of rubbish. If you cannot stomach the truth, then you're better off back to your junk sites.

The information Ive received hasnt been from junk sites, its been from family members that were living in fear from the Greeks/GC's!!

Now that is a long way from what you said earlier:

Turkish Cypriots need an army so the greeks dont start killing us again!!

... to simply "living in fear".

We GCs not only lived with the fear of Turks-TMT but suffered the actuality of seeing thousands of our people slaughtered, raped and missing at the hands of the Turks.

Therefore, there is NO justifiable excuse for a TC army, let alone 43,000 Turkish troops, pointing guns at us!

[YFred]

Well, you came here clearly having been fed on a diet of rubbish. If you cannot stomach the truth, then you're better off back to your junk sites.

The information Ive received hasnt been from junk sites, its been from family members that were living in fear from the Greeks/GC's!!

Now that is a long way from what you said earlier:

Turkish Cypriots need an army so the greeks dont start killing us again!!

... to simply "living in fear".

We GCs not only lived with the fear of Turks-TMT but suffered the actuality of seeing thousands of our people slaughtered, raped and missing at the hands of the Turks.

Therefore, there is NO justifiable excuse for a TC army, let alone 43,000 Turkish troops, pointing guns at us!

The incidents referred to here are pre 1974. The way the TCs were treated by your untouchables with the full blessing of the RoC. Some of us lived it and are here to tell the tale. Give it a rest. Please.

[London]

Well, you came here clearly having been fed on a diet of rubbish. If you cannot stomach the truth, then you're better off back to your junk sites.

The information Ive received hasnt been from junk sites, its been from family members that were living in fear from the Greeks/GC's!!

Now that is a long way from what you said earlier:

Turkish Cypriots need an army so the greeks dont start killing us again!!

... to simply "living in fear".

We GCs not only lived with the fear of Turks-TMT but suffered the actuality of seeing thousands of our people slaughtered, raped and missing at the hands of the Turks.

Therefore, there is NO justifiable excuse for a TC army, let alone 43,000 Turkish troops, pointing guns at us!

How is that a long way off from what I said? You obviously didnt understand what I was saying my dear.

If you had read properly what i wrote, it said my family members were living in fear. Where as in the first post I made in this thread, I was talking about all TC's. Luckily, none of my immediate family was killed however I know many long distance cousins/relatives that were killed because of the GC's brutality

And i dont see how the Turkish Army are "pointing guns" at you, its because of them that there has been hardly any bloodshed since 1974!!

[Oracle]

Well, you came here clearly having been fed on a diet of rubbish. If you cannot stomach the truth, then you're better off back to your junk sites.

The information Ive received hasnt been from junk sites, its been from family members that were living in fear from the Greeks/GC's!!

Now that is a long way from what you said earlier:

Turkish Cypriots need an army so the greeks dont start killing us again!!

... to simply "living in fear".

We GCs not only lived with the fear of Turks-TMT but suffered the actuality of seeing thousands of our people slaughtered, raped and missing at the hands of the Turks.

Therefore, there is NO justifiable excuse for a TC army, let alone 43,000 Turkish troops, pointing guns at us!

How is that a long way off from what I said? You obviously didnt understand what I was saying my dear.

If you had read properly what i wrote, it said my family members were living in fear. Where as in the first post I made in this thread, I was talking about all TC's. Luckily, none of my immediate family was killed however I know many long distance cousins/relatives that were killed because of the GC's brutality

And i dont see how the Turkish Army are "pointing guns" at you, its because of them that there has been hardly any bloodshed since 1974!!

It's seems facts are not your friend.

You accuse GCs of something, without evidence, not even from (thankfully) personal experience, and you have no qualms in trying to justify making sweeping statements such as you did. You have not backed up what you said, therefore you were telling fibs!

Next:

It is NOT on account of the Turkish army we have "hardly had any bloodshed" but on the very real need to have the United Nations Peace-keeping Force here to oppose you!

Despite that, you still managed to kill our unarmed civilians ....

.... and you have the gull to accuse GCs ...

[London]

Well, you came here clearly having been fed on a diet of rubbish. If you cannot stomach the truth, then you're better off back to your junk sites.

The information Ive received hasnt been from junk sites, its been from family members that were living in fear from the Greeks/GC's!!

Now that is a long way from what you said earlier:

Turkish Cypriots need an army so the greeks dont start killing us again!!

... to simply "living in fear".

We GCs not only lived with the fear of Turks-TMT but suffered the actuality of seeing thousands of our people slaughtered, raped and missing at the hands of the Turks.

Therefore, there is NO justifiable excuse for a TC army, let alone 43,000 Turkish troops, pointing guns at us!

How is that a long way off from what I said? You obviously didnt understand what I was saying my dear.

If you had read properly what i wrote, it said my family members were living in fear. Where as in the first post I made in this thread, I was talking about all TC's. Luckily, none of my immediate family was killed however I know many long distance cousins/relatives that were killed because of the GC's brutality

And i dont see how the Turkish Army are "pointing guns" at you, its because of them that there has been hardly any bloodshed since 1974!!

It's seems facts are not your friend.

You accuse GCs of something, without evidence, not even from (thankfully) personal experience, and you have no qualms in trying to justify making sweeping statements such as you did. You have not backed up what you said, therefore you were telling fibs!

Next:

It is NOT on account of the Turkish army we have "hardly had any bloodshed" but on the very real need to have the United Nations Peace-keeping Force here to oppose you!

Despite that, you still managed to kill our unarmed civilians ....

.... and you have the gull to accuse GCs ...

Oracle, you really need a reality check. For you to deny that GC's didnt kill any TC's just goes to show that you don't know much!!

And again for you to believe the UN peace-keeping force is the reason why there has been no violence highlights your naivety!! Where was the UN in the 60's and 70's. They really helped the cause then didnt they!!

[Oracle]

Well, you came here clearly having been fed on a diet of rubbish. If you cannot stomach the truth, then you're better off back to your junk sites.

The information Ive received hasnt been from junk sites, its been from family members that were living in fear from the Greeks/GC's!!

Now that is a long way from what you said earlier:

Turkish Cypriots need an army so the greeks dont start killing us again!!

... to simply "living in fear".

We GCs not only lived with the fear of Turks-TMT but suffered the actuality of seeing thousands of our people slaughtered, raped and missing at the hands of the Turks.

Therefore, there is NO justifiable excuse for a TC army, let alone 43,000 Turkish troops, pointing guns at us!

How is that a long way off from what I said? You obviously didnt understand what I was saying my dear.

If you had read properly what i wrote, it said my family members were living in fear. Where as in the first post I made in this thread, I was talking about all TC's. Luckily, none of my immediate family was killed however I know many long distance cousins/relatives that were killed because of the GC's brutality

And i dont see how the Turkish Army are "pointing guns" at you, its because of them that there has been hardly any bloodshed since 1974!!

It's seems facts are not your friend.

You accuse GCs of something, without evidence, not even from (thankfully) personal experience, and you have no qualms in trying to justify making sweeping statements such as you did. You have not backed up what you said, therefore you were telling fibs!

Next:

It is NOT on account of the Turkish army we have "hardly had any bloodshed" but on the very real need to have the United Nations Peace-keeping Force here to oppose you!

Despite that, you still managed to kill our unarmed civilians ....

.... and you have the gull to accuse GCs ...

Oracle, you really need a reality check. For you to deny that GC's didnt kill any TC's just goes to show that you don't know much!!

And again for you to believe the UN peace-keeping force is the reason why there has been no violence highlights your naivety!! Where was the UN in the 60's and 70's. They really helped the cause then didnt they!!

Where did I do that? You make stuff up, I see, as well as believe in untruths. I was, in fact, pointing out your unsubstantiated sweeping statement that only GCs killed TCs ...

And, I also never said there has been "no violence", but that the violence, since the invasion, has come from YOUR side with the shooting and battering of our unarmed civilians! It is only the presence of the UN which has served to minimise this and NOT your gun-pointing 50,000 something Army of Turks!

[Gabira]

Therefore, there is NO justifiable excuse for a TC army, let alone 43,000 Turkish troops ...

Whilst there are people like you around in Cyprus, a TC Army and 43,000 brave Turkish Troops are required and justified. In actual fact, the figures should be doubled to 86,000, let's do the maths :

43,000 = half hearted

86,000 = full hearted

Problem solved

[London]

Well, you came here clearly having been fed on a diet of rubbish. If you cannot stomach the truth, then you're better off back to your junk sites.

The information Ive received hasnt been from junk sites, its been from family members that were living in fear from the Greeks/GC's!!

Now that is a long way from what you said earlier:

Turkish Cypriots need an army so the greeks dont start killing us again!!

... to simply "living in fear".

We GCs not only lived with the fear of Turks-TMT but suffered the actuality of seeing thousands of our people slaughtered, raped and missing at the hands of the Turks.

Therefore, there is NO justifiable excuse for a TC army, let alone 43,000 Turkish troops, pointing guns at us!

How is that a long way off from what I said? You obviously didnt understand what I was saying my dear.

If you had read properly what i wrote, it said my family members were living in fear. Where as in the first post I made in this thread, I was talking about all TC's. Luckily, none of my immediate family was killed however I know many long distance cousins/relatives that were killed because of the GC's brutality

And i dont see how the Turkish Army are "pointing guns" at you, its because of them that there has been hardly any bloodshed since 1974!!

It's seems facts are not your friend.

You accuse GCs of something, without evidence, not even from (thankfully) personal experience, and you have no qualms in trying to justify making sweeping statements such as you did. You have not backed up what you said, therefore you were telling fibs!

Next:

It is NOT on account of the Turkish army we have "hardly had any bloodshed" but on the very real need to have the [b]United Nations Peace-keeping Force here to oppose you![/b]

Despite that, you still managed to kill our unarmed civilians ....

.... and you have the gull to accuse GCs ...

Oracle, you really need a reality check. For you to deny that GC's didnt kill any TC's just goes to show that you don't know much!!

And again for you to believe the UN peace-keeping force is the reason why there has been no violence highlights your naivety!! Where was the UN in the 60's and 70's. They really helped the cause then didnt they!!

Where did I do that? You make stuff up, I see, as well as believe in untruths. I was, in fact, pointing out your unsubstantiated sweeping statement that only GCs killed TCs ...

And, I also never said there has been "no violence", but that the violence, since the invasion, has come from YOUR side with the shooting and battering of our unarmed civilians! It is only the presence of the UN which has served to minimise this and NOT your gun-pointing 50,000 something Army of Turks!

Are yout talking about the riots in 1996?!!