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[YFred]

Eroglu says it is not important from where a person comes as long he is a Turk, adopt the “citizenship of the TRNC” and defend the “state”

Turkish Cypriot daily Gunes newspaper (28.09.09) reports that Dervis Eroglu, self-styled prime minister of the breakaway regime, has said that his “government” is working taking into consideration “the existence of the TRNC”. In statements during a feast organized by the “TRNC” Black Sea Association, that is, the Turkish settlers who came illegally to the occupied areas of Cyprus from Turkey’s Black Sea region, Mr Eroglu said that everybody’s duty is to defend the “TRNC”, breakaway regime in the occupied areas of Cyprus, and added: “The important thing is for the TRNC people to defend its own state. We have this understanding when we govern. Let a person come from wherever he wants, as long as he is Turk, adopts the citizenship of the TRNC and defends the TRNC state. This is our slogan, our view”. Mr Eroglu said that he supports that the settlers from Turkey should live in the occupied areas in tranquillity and security. Addressing the settlers at the feast, Mr Eroglu alleged “the occupied areas of Cyprus is their “own homeland”.

Funny, I was under the impression that he was ellected by a fair vote, thanks to your guys efforts in the talks.

You mean he spent more money than other candidates by handing out hard cash to people to vote for him.

"True Democracy" at work, "trnc" style, of course, where corruption is the norm it seems with the above method of buying votes for cash in the modern age of Democratic EU countries it wants to join.!

If you could only understand what's going on in TRNC, you may just make an intelligent contribution.
The TCs are sick of the situation and no amount of corruption could have changed the vote had TPapa not wasted 4 years of Talats Presidency with Muhtar X not being that different.
If you can't see an up yours sign from the TCs change your eye glass supplier.

[wallace]

Eroglu says it is not important from where a person comes as long he is a Turk, adopt the “citizenship of the TRNC” and defend the “state”

Turkish Cypriot daily Gunes newspaper (28.09.09) reports that Dervis Eroglu, self-styled prime minister of the breakaway regime, has said that his “government” is working taking into consideration “the existence of the TRNC”. In statements during a feast organized by the “TRNC” Black Sea Association, that is, the Turkish settlers who came illegally to the occupied areas of Cyprus from Turkey’s Black Sea region, Mr Eroglu said that everybody’s duty is to defend the “TRNC”, breakaway regime in the occupied areas of Cyprus, and added: “The important thing is for the TRNC people to defend its own state. We have this understanding when we govern. Let a person come from wherever he wants, as long as he is Turk, adopts the citizenship of the TRNC and defends the TRNC state. This is our slogan, our view”. Mr Eroglu said that he supports that the settlers from Turkey should live in the occupied areas in tranquillity and security. Addressing the settlers at the feast, Mr Eroglu alleged “the occupied areas of Cyprus is their “own homeland”.

Funny, I was under the impression that he was ellected by a fair vote, thanks to your guys efforts in the talks.

Sure....point your fingers to others again. That's all you guys are good at. How easely your tribe gets brainwashed is still beyond my logical understanding. You should be the one (a TC) to tell Eroglu where the homeland of these anantolians is. The question is though....do you have the balls???

Why are you complaining, according to Bafidi, its a dream come true for the RoC. He understands. You lost TPapa and gaind Denktash II.
We are incredibly good for you.

Did you hear me complain? Your minority community is vanishing from your own so called country. We know who we are dealing with.....do you? I just asked a simple question. For obvious reasons and as usual....you are not able to answer a simple queston!

[YFred]

Eroglu says it is not important from where a person comes as long he is a Turk, adopt the “citizenship of the TRNC” and defend the “state”

Turkish Cypriot daily Gunes newspaper (28.09.09) reports that Dervis Eroglu, self-styled prime minister of the breakaway regime, has said that his “government” is working taking into consideration “the existence of the TRNC”. In statements during a feast organized by the “TRNC” Black Sea Association, that is, the Turkish settlers who came illegally to the occupied areas of Cyprus from Turkey’s Black Sea region, Mr Eroglu said that everybody’s duty is to defend the “TRNC”, breakaway regime in the occupied areas of Cyprus, and added: “The important thing is for the TRNC people to defend its own state. We have this understanding when we govern. Let a person come from wherever he wants, as long as he is Turk, adopts the citizenship of the TRNC and defends the TRNC state. This is our slogan, our view”. Mr Eroglu said that he supports that the settlers from Turkey should live in the occupied areas in tranquillity and security. Addressing the settlers at the feast, Mr Eroglu alleged “the occupied areas of Cyprus is their “own homeland”.

Funny, I was under the impression that he was ellected by a fair vote, thanks to your guys efforts in the talks.

Sure....point your fingers to others again. That's all you guys are good at. How easely your tribe gets brainwashed is still beyond my logical understanding. You should be the one (a TC) to tell Eroglu where the homeland of these anantolians is. The question is though....do you have the balls???

Why are you complaining, according to Bafidi, its a dream come true for the RoC. He understands. You lost TPapa and gaind Denktash II.
We are incredibly good for you.

Did you hear me complain? Your minority community is vanishing from your own so called country. We know who we are dealing with.....do you? I just asked a simple question. For obvious reasons and as usual....you are not able to answer a simple queston!

Was that a Yes or No you wanted?

[zan]

Eroglu says it is not important from where a person comes as long he is a Turk, adopt the “citizenship of the TRNC” and defend the “state”

Turkish Cypriot daily Gunes newspaper (28.09.09) reports that Dervis Eroglu, self-styled prime minister of the breakaway regime, has said that his “government” is working taking into consideration “the existence of the TRNC”. In statements during a feast organized by the “TRNC” Black Sea Association, that is, the Turkish settlers who came illegally to the occupied areas of Cyprus from Turkey’s Black Sea region, Mr Eroglu said that everybody’s duty is to defend the “TRNC”, breakaway regime in the occupied areas of Cyprus, and added: “The important thing is for the TRNC people to defend its own state. We have this understanding when we govern. Let a person come from wherever he wants, as long as he is Turk, adopts the citizenship of the TRNC and defends the TRNC state. This is our slogan, our view”. Mr Eroglu said that he supports that the settlers from Turkey should live in the occupied areas in tranquillity and security. Addressing the settlers at the feast, Mr Eroglu alleged “the occupied areas of Cyprus is their “own homeland”.

Funny, I was under the impression that he was ellected by a fair vote, thanks to your guys efforts in the talks.

You mean he spent more money than other candidates by handing out hard cash to people to vote for him.

"True Democracy" at work, "trnc" style, of course, where corruption is the norm it seems with the above method of buying votes for cash in the modern age of Democratic EU countries it wants to join.!

What did Tpap do with the American money he was given for a YES vote on the Annan Plan again???

[Kikapu]

Eroglu says it is not important from where a person comes as long he is a Turk, adopt the “citizenship of the TRNC” and defend the “state”

Turkish Cypriot daily Gunes newspaper (28.09.09) reports that Dervis Eroglu, self-styled prime minister of the breakaway regime, has said that his “government” is working taking into consideration “the existence of the TRNC”. In statements during a feast organized by the “TRNC” Black Sea Association, that is, the Turkish settlers who came illegally to the occupied areas of Cyprus from Turkey’s Black Sea region, Mr Eroglu said that everybody’s duty is to defend the “TRNC”, breakaway regime in the occupied areas of Cyprus, and added: “The important thing is for the TRNC people to defend its own state. We have this understanding when we govern. Let a person come from wherever he wants, as long as he is Turk, adopts the citizenship of the TRNC and defends the TRNC state. This is our slogan, our view”. Mr Eroglu said that he supports that the settlers from Turkey should live in the occupied areas in tranquillity and security. Addressing the settlers at the feast, Mr Eroglu alleged “the occupied areas of Cyprus is their “own homeland”.

Funny, I was under the impression that he was ellected by a fair vote, thanks to your guys efforts in the talks.

You mean he spent more money than other candidates by handing out hard cash to people to vote for him.

"True Democracy" at work, "trnc" style, of course, where corruption is the norm it seems with the above method of buying votes for cash in the modern age of Democratic EU countries it wants to join.!

If you could only understand what's going on in TRNC, you may just make an intelligent contribution.
The TCs are sick of the situation and no amount of corruption could have changed the vote had TPapa not wasted 4 years of Talats Presidency with Muhtar X not being that different.
If you can't see an up yours sign from the TCs change your eye glass supplier.

Yes, That makes a lot of sense, that TCs want a solution with Talat as he promised them to get elected, but PapaD is an obstructionist so nothing happens according to you, so when Talat's old commie friend gets into power and wants a solution with Talat from day one, the TCs then stop supporting Talat because, what, that Talat fed his people with false expectations for a solution because his solution plan all along was going to be the rejected 2004 Annan plan which Talat planned to use as a starting point even up to the eve of the current talks a year ago when Christofias made it very clear that they will not use the AP at all.!

OK, so Talat gave his people false expectations rather than the reality as to what BBF will look like that will be accepted by both sided, specially after the RoC became a EU member. Perhaps for that he deserves to be kicked out, but how do you then explain why they would elect an anti settlement guy who did not even like the AP himself, so just what were the TCs expecting to happen with this guy if they no longer trusted Talat. What, somehow Eroglu would turn from a caterpillar to a beautiful butterfly and find a solution for them. No, of course not and that's not happened.

What happened in reality is, that the TCs sold off their voting rights to the settlers and once they have done that, it is much easier to elect someone who does not want a settlement based on EU principles in the hope that the talks will fail and all the settlers can stay in their ill gotten lands and properties and fuck the True TCs who would want to have a settlement based on the EU Principles. So basically, the TCs screwed themselves over time with the allowance of drip, drip, drip in giving out "TC citizenships", which in the end, it was the rope they gave the settlers that they "hung" the TCs with. So not everything is the blame of the other side, but also look internally. But the point was, UBP most likely did more bribing for votes than other candidates, and also the settlers element Vs the True TCs, which in the end the TCs lost and the settlers won, and in the future, the same will happen in the north’s so called parliament when the settlers will take over most of the power from the TCs which you are very proud to announce every now and then, that the TCs are in control of the government, but for how much longer, then you will see the TCs looking for a way to leave the north in droves.!

[Kikapu]

Eroglu says it is not important from where a person comes as long he is a Turk, adopt the “citizenship of the TRNC” and defend the “state”

Turkish Cypriot daily Gunes newspaper (28.09.09) reports that Dervis Eroglu, self-styled prime minister of the breakaway regime, has said that his “government” is working taking into consideration “the existence of the TRNC”. In statements during a feast organized by the “TRNC” Black Sea Association, that is, the Turkish settlers who came illegally to the occupied areas of Cyprus from Turkey’s Black Sea region, Mr Eroglu said that everybody’s duty is to defend the “TRNC”, breakaway regime in the occupied areas of Cyprus, and added: “The important thing is for the TRNC people to defend its own state. We have this understanding when we govern. Let a person come from wherever he wants, as long as he is Turk, adopts the citizenship of the TRNC and defends the TRNC state. This is our slogan, our view”. Mr Eroglu said that he supports that the settlers from Turkey should live in the occupied areas in tranquillity and security. Addressing the settlers at the feast, Mr Eroglu alleged “the occupied areas of Cyprus is their “own homeland”.

Funny, I was under the impression that he was ellected by a fair vote, thanks to your guys efforts in the talks.

You mean he spent more money than other candidates by handing out hard cash to people to vote for him.

"True Democracy" at work, "trnc" style, of course, where corruption is the norm it seems with the above method of buying votes for cash in the modern age of Democratic EU countries it wants to join.!

What did Tpap do with the American money he was given for a YES vote on the Annan Plan again???

He probably had a great piss-up party with it to celebrate the AP going down in flames at 76%-24% which the GCs today do not seem to think they made a mistake voting that way back in 2004. But what does that has anything to do with what we are talking about, which was to buy votes with hard cash in the hand kind of "democracy". Sure parties spend money to get elected, but not this way in the EU specially and in the west. If I can make an analogy, it would be like spending money on a lady for a great evening of eating, dancing and then romance, Vs going to the whorehouse and just having sex. Both the guys spent money and they both got laid, but using different methods, is just that, going to the whorehouse is less acceptable in society in general than taking the lady out for the evening for a good time. The elections pay out in the north would qualify the man who went to the whorehouse. It's just that plain simple.!

[Nikitas]

The question is how much money the USA spent in both Greece and Cyprus to campaign for the Annan plan.

I work in the media in Greece and know, but cannot prove (for obvious reasons), that a LOT of money found its way to some media people here. There were the most unexpected people appearing on television political shows, the edquivalent of Panorama etc in the UK, to promote the Annan plan, people who did not even know in which direction Cyprus lay. People who accused EOKA fighters how had been killed in 1955 and 1956 of carrying out ethnic cleansing of TCs in 1963!!!!! There was an ex minister who passionately shouted that in Cyprus in 1974 Greece had suffered a military and diplomatic defeat and hence it should accept the Annan plan!!!!! How low can a man sink! Was that the way to promote a plan? As an imposed solution following defeat? The Yanks as always chose the wrong people to promote their interests. Or maybe they were the only people who would sink that low.

So the question is not what did Papadopoulos do with the money, we know what he did. The question is how much money the USA spread around the most undeserving and dubious pockets to promote the Annan plan. And inevitably we must also ask what if they had NOT spent the money in this obvious and heavy handed manner, what then? Would the vote still be NO?

You cannot fool all of the people all the time. And as we say in Greek, coughing and money in your pocket cannot be hidden, and the people realised what was going on.

[wallace]

Eroglu says it is not important from where a person comes as long he is a Turk, adopt the “citizenship of the TRNC” and defend the “state”

Turkish Cypriot daily Gunes newspaper (28.09.09) reports that Dervis Eroglu, self-styled prime minister of the breakaway regime, has said that his “government” is working taking into consideration “the existence of the TRNC”. In statements during a feast organized by the “TRNC” Black Sea Association, that is, the Turkish settlers who came illegally to the occupied areas of Cyprus from Turkey’s Black Sea region, Mr Eroglu said that everybody’s duty is to defend the “TRNC”, breakaway regime in the occupied areas of Cyprus, and added: “The important thing is for the TRNC people to defend its own state. We have this understanding when we govern. Let a person come from wherever he wants, as long as he is Turk, adopts the citizenship of the TRNC and defends the TRNC state. This is our slogan, our view”. Mr Eroglu said that he supports that the settlers from Turkey should live in the occupied areas in tranquillity and security. Addressing the settlers at the feast, Mr Eroglu alleged “the occupied areas of Cyprus is their “own homeland”.

Funny, I was under the impression that he was ellected by a fair vote, thanks to your guys efforts in the talks.

Sure....point your fingers to others again. That's all you guys are good at. How easely your tribe gets brainwashed is still beyond my logical understanding. You should be the one (a TC) to tell Eroglu where the homeland of these anantolians is. The question is though....do you have the balls???

Why are you complaining, according to Bafidi, its a dream come true for the RoC. He understands. You lost TPapa and gaind Denktash II.
We are incredibly good for you.

Did you hear me complain? Your minority community is vanishing from your own so called country. We know who we are dealing with.....do you? I just asked a simple question. For obvious reasons and as usual....you are not able to answer a simple queston!

Was that a Yes or No you wanted?

You see....it can be very simple Now....are you going to tell that clown where the homeland of these anatolians is?

[Christine Toskos]

Turkey is becoming weaker by the minute. They looked foolish when they were hiding their heads in the sand. No one with an ounce of intelligence could defend them.

[paliometoxo]

turkey will eventually be forced out of cyprus.. it is inevitable