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[insan]

- 30.000 TCs became refugees from 1963 until 1967 and later 50.000 TCs became refugees in 1974-1975. 1/3 of TC community became refugees as a consequence of inter communal strife.

- 140.000 GCs became refugees from 1974 until 1977. 1/3 of GC community bacame refugees as a consequence of inter communal strife.

Was this situation the result of an ethnic cleansing plan or happened as a consequence of inter communal strife? Let's examine...

I highly tend to believe that population movements were inevitable under then the circumstances...

[insan]

Was there population movements in Cyprus even in 1958? Lemme google it...

[insan]

http://www.arts.yorku.ca/politics/ncane ... %20(edited).pdf

There's a comprehensive study there, regarding all refugees; aiming to explain the reasons behind population movements but it's in Turkish.

[Piratis]

- 30.000 TCs became refugees from 1963 until 1967 and later 50.000 TCs became refugees in 1974-1975. 1/3 of TC community became refugees as a consequence of inter communal strife.

- 140.000 GCs became refugees from 1974 until 1977. 1/3 of GC community bacame refugees as a consequence of inter communal strife.

Was this situation the result of an ethnic cleansing plan or happened as a consequence of inter communal strife? Let's examine...

I highly tend to believe that population movements were inevitable under then the circumstances...

The ones who have been ethnically cleansed, about 180.000, are the Greek Cypriots.

The TCs had partition as their aim since the 1950s. In the words of Denktash:

We wish to establish a federal administration in Cyprus. In order to achieve this, it is necessary to move a portion of the Turks from one place to another place and to concentrate our people in certain parts of the island.

The TCs wanted to move from some areas of Cyprus to some other areas and subsequently annihilate us from those areas in order to establish some Turkish state. When you move from one area to another in order to implement your own plan is not called "ethnic cleansing" dear insan.

Since the whole island had a GC majority the ethnic cleansing of GCs and the concentration of TCs in specific areas of Cyprus was what partition was (and continues to be) all about.

[Piratis]

I highly tend to believe that population movements were inevitable under then the circumstances...

And what are your arguments to justify ethnic cleansing against us?

If you believe that "population movements" were necessary in order to separate GCs from TCs, then why you didn't move yourselves a few kilometers to the north, to Turkey? You had every right to do that if you believed it was necessary. What you had no right to do is to ethnically cleanse us and steal our lands.

[YFred]

Was there population movements in Cyprus even in 1958? Lemme google it...

FYI There was 10 GC families that moved out of Lurucina in 1958.

I remeber it well becasue my mum was changing my nappy at the time.

[insan]

- 30.000 TCs became refugees from 1963 until 1967 and later 50.000 TCs became refugees in 1974-1975. 1/3 of TC community became refugees as a consequence of inter communal strife.

- 140.000 GCs became refugees from 1974 until 1977. 1/3 of GC community bacame refugees as a consequence of inter communal strife.

Was this situation the result of an ethnic cleansing plan or happened as a consequence of inter communal strife? Let's examine...

I highly tend to believe that population movements were inevitable under then the circumstances...

The ones who have been ethnically cleansed, about 180.000, are the Greek Cypriots.

The TCs had partition as their aim since the 1950s. In the words of Denktash:

We wish to establish a federal administration in Cyprus. In order to achieve this, it is necessary to move a portion of the Turks from one place to another place and to concentrate our people in certain parts of the island.

The TCs wanted to move from some areas of Cyprus to some other areas and subsequently annihilate us from those areas in order to establish some Turkish state. When you move from one area to another in order to implement your own plan is not called "ethnic cleansing" dear insan.

Since the whole island had a GC majority the ethnic cleansing of GCs and the concentration of TCs in specific areas of Cyprus was what partition was (and continues to be) all about.

Under what circumstances and when did Denktash make that statement? When the Greek/GC Enosists began to oppress TCs? If Denktash made that statement under the circumstances of where TCs were being oppressed by Hellenic National Front to make TCs accept minority status; then Denktash and his friends did something justifiable to protect lives and rights of TCs.

[Tim Drayton]

According to Diana Weston Markides on page 20 of Cyprus 1957-1963 From Colonial Conflict to Constitutional Crisis, referring to the aftermath of the riots sparked off by the bomb which was planted in June 1958 on the steps of the Turkish Information Office in Nicosia:

The de facto Turkish municipalities were formed in the wake of the riots. Indeed, the objective of the riots must have been to facilitate the forcible seizure by the Turkish Cypriots of municipal property, and, at the same time, to create an atmosphere of fear that would promote communal and municipal separatism. Municipal markets in Nicosia and Limassol, which were on the edge of the Turkish quarter but were used jointly, were taken over by Turkish Cypriots. The markets were a major source of income for the municipalities, as well as a symbol of municipal power. It was clearly an organised operation, the same tactics being used in both towns. Murders took place both of Turkish municipal employees in the Greek quarters and of Greek employees in the Turkish quarters. Subsequently, the Turkish employees of municipal councils - some seventy-two in Nicosia - were compelled to resign by the Turkish Cypriot leadership and the Greek municipal employees refused to work in the Turkish quarter.55

Hundreds of Greek Cypriot citizens were evicted from the predominantly Turkish areas of Omorphita in Nicosia and Ayios Antonis in Limassol and their homes taken over by Turkish Cypriots moving in the opposite direction. Foot referred to Greek houses in Omorphita already being ocupied by "Turkish squatters".56 Zorlu's indicative claim that this amounted to a population exchange was described as rediculous by Belcher, the United States consul. He emphasized that the incidents had "affected population distribution hardly at all, i.e., about three tenths of one percent ." He also stressed that the "majority moving are Greeks , fearing for lives and property".57

FOOTNOTES

55 Draft Review of the Year 1958 returned by Foot to Reddaway, 6 May 1959, SA 1/1000/58, CSA, 5. [...]

56 Ibid.

57 Blecher to secretary of state , tel. 418, 17 June [...]

[Piratis]

1958:



And all this in order to achieve partition which required ethnic cleansing.

You can't have a "TRNC" in a territory with 180.00 GCs and just 50.000 TCs. What you need to do is to concentrate all 120.000 TCs in one area, ethnically cleanse the GCs from that area, and there you have it, a territory with a vast majority of TCs, where some "TRNC" can be declared on. This is what partition was all about. Ethnic cleansing in order to artificially create some Turkish state on land which has always been inhabited by a vast majority of Greek Cypriots. Both the inter-communal conflict and the war were started by TCs and Turkey in order to achieve this aim.

[insan]

I highly tend to believe that population movements were inevitable under then the circumstances...

And what are your arguments to justify ethnic cleansing against us?

If you believe that "population movements" were necessary in order to separate GCs from TCs, then why you didn't move yourselves a few kilometers to the north, to Turkey? You had every right to do that if you believed it was necessary. What you had no right to do is to ethnically cleanse us and steal our lands.

Piratis, it is not possible to me discussing this issue with u because u believe; first of all TC community should have been treated as a minority. I too, am aware of that had TC community accepted minority status and as a consequence of this everything Hellenic National Front imposed on them; there would have been no Cyprus problem, until some day Turkey face any degree of threat coming over Cyprus.