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Postby Paphitis » Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:36 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:The coup was conducted by Greek Cypriot nationalists and was supported by the Greek Junta.

Why are you blaming others for the action of our own people?

Greece is 100% responsible for the attack on Cyprus and there’s nothing you or any other Greek nationalist traitor, can do or say to change that as it’s LOCKED in history now.


The events of 74 are most certainly recorded in history and there is nothing you can do to revise it.

The fact is, Greek Cypriot Nationalists within EOKA B were responsible for staging the coup against Makarios. The Greek Army would not have acted if they did not have the support on the ground or given the go ahead by Kissinger.

Fact is GR!, there is only one traitor here, and that is you. The way you have spoken to your fellow refugee (CT) was most appalling.
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Postby YFred » Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:38 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:The coup was conducted by Greek Cypriot nationalists and was supported by the Greek Junta.

Why are you blaming others for the action of our own people?

Greece is 100% responsible for the attack on Cyprus and there’s nothing you or any other Greek nationalist traitor, can do or say to change that as it’s LOCKED in history now.


The events of 74 are most certainly recorded in history and there is nothing you can do to revise it.

The fact is, Greek Cypriot Nationalists within EOKA B were responsible for staging the coup against Makarios. The Greek Army would not have acted if they did not have the support on the ground or given the go ahead by Kissinger.

Fact is GR!, there is only one traitor here, and that is you. The way you have spoken to your fellow refugee (CT) was most appalling.

What? you can't re-write the books? that's a new one on us dear boy.
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Postby Piratis » Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:50 pm

Who was responsible for the coup was the Greek Junta and EOKA-B. The leaders of the Junta were jailed and the actions of those dictators do not represent the Greek people since those dictators were not democratically elected by the people but they took the power by force.

That said, a coup is just a coup. Several coups happened in Turkey as well. A coup is no excuse for an invasion and ethnic cleansing of innocent people.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:56 pm

Piratis wrote:Who was responsible for the coup was the Greek Junta and EOKA-B.

The Greek junta WAS the recognized government of Greece for 7 whole years!

Greece is 100% responsible for the attack and murders of Cypriots and subsequent paving for the Turkish invasion!
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:03 pm

Greece attacked Cyprus to kill Cypriots and the democratically elected president of Cyprus, to EASE THE SUBSEQUENT TURKISH INVASION so that a “Greek side” and a “Turkish side” may be formed on Cyprus!

That’s how much care and respect Greeks had for Cypriots! :evil:
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Postby Piratis » Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:11 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Piratis wrote:Who was responsible for the coup was the Greek Junta and EOKA-B.

The Greek junta WAS the recognized government of Greece for 7 whole years!

Greece is 100% responsible for the attack and murders of Cypriots and subsequent paving for the Turkish invasion!


As I said coups were not something unusual, and a coup can not be an excuse for an invasion and ethnic cleansing of innocent people.

The dictators of the Greek junta took power by force, with the sponsorship of CIA, and they did not have the support of the Greek people. This is why they have been jailed for life when the Greek people managed to overthrow them.

Trying to equate the actions of a ruler that took the power by force with the will of the people is totally wrong. Would you say that the actions of the Ottoman Authorities in Cyprus during Ottoman rule represented the will of the Cypriot people?
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Postby Paphitis » Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:13 pm

Between 1969 and 1971, several groups embarked on a renewed terrorist campaign for enosis. Grivas returned clandestinely to Cyprus sometime in the late summer or early fall of 1971 and set up a new guerilla organization, the national Organizaiton of Cypriot Fighters (Ethniki Organosis Kyprion Agonistm B--EOKA B). Most members of the terrorist movement held regular jobs in the Greek Cypriot community; half were police officials and members of the National Guard.

There was also considerable evidence of support of EOKA B activities by the Greek junta, whose hostility to Makarios became increasingly apparent during the early 1970s. The junta was believed to be involved in several attempts on the life of President Makarios. In March 1970, Makarios narrowly escaped death when his helicopter was shot down. Makarios walked away from the crash, but his pilot was killed. Former minister of the interior Polykarpos Georkajis, in contact with local right-wing groups and the junta in Athens, was thought to be implicated, and was assassinated shortly afterward. A paramilitary presidential guard loyal to Makarios, called the Tactical Police Reserve, was organized in 1972. Consisting of fewer than 1,000 men, the Tactical Police Reserve succeeded in arresting large numbers of EOKA B guerrillas. In a further attempt to bring subversive forces under control, Makarios dismissed many National Guard and police officers suspected of EOKA B activity.

With the death of Grivas from a heart attack in January 1974, EOKA B came more directly under the control of the military junta in Athens, which, after a change of leadership, was even more hostile to Makarios. The archbishop, however, saw the Greek officered National Guard as a more serious threat to his government than EOKA B. In a letter to the Greek president in early July, he accused the junta of attempting to subvert the government of Cyprus through the Greek officers of the National Guard, who in turn supported the terrorist activities of EOKA B. Makarion demanded immediate removal of the 650 Greek officers staffing the National Guard and their replacement by 100 instructors who would help reorganize the Greek Cypriot force.

The reply to the Makarios challenge came on 15 July 1974 in the form of a coup d'état led by Greek officers in the National Guard, under orders from Athens. The fierce fighting that broke out resulted in casualties estimated at over 500, but the lightly armed Tactical Police Reserve and irregular pro-Makarios units were no match for the heavily armed National Guardsmen and the EOKA B irregulars. Narrowly escaping capture when the presidential palace was bombarded, Makarios was flown to London from the Sovereign Base Area at Akrotiri. Former EOKA gunman and convicted murderer Nicos Sampson, notorious for his brutality in the 1950s and 1960s, was proclaimed president. As Makarios had foreseen, but the Greek military leaders did not, Turkey reacted forcibly to the coup by landing a large number of troops on the northern coast of Cyprus. As a result, both the insurrectionary government in Cyprus and the military dictatorship in Greece fell from power.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... a/eoka.htm
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:16 pm

Piratis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Piratis wrote:Who was responsible for the coup was the Greek Junta and EOKA-B.

The Greek junta WAS the recognized government of Greece for 7 whole years!

Greece is 100% responsible for the attack and murders of Cypriots and subsequent paving for the Turkish invasion!


As I said coups were not something unusual, and a coup can not be an excuse for an invasion and ethnic cleansing of innocent people.

The dictators of the Greek junta took power by force, with the sponsorship of CIA, and they did not have the support of the Greek people. This is why they have been jailed for life when the Greek people managed to overthrow them.

Trying to equate the actions of a ruler that took the power by force with the will of the people is totally wrong. Would you say that the actions of the Ottoman Authorities in Cyprus during Ottoman rule represented the will of the Cypriot people?

Greece is 100% responsible for the attack and murders of Cypriots and subsequent paving for the Turkish invasion!

Anyone who still denies what’s so bloody obvious to everyone else and written about countless times in books and articles, can only be classified as a Greek nationalist traitor himself… your choice!
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:22 pm

zan wrote:How about starting up a campaign GR, to oust all these false Cypriots like Oracle from the land...After all....Asking us to get rid of the settlers and not doing the same is hypocritical isn't it??? 8) Start preparing the list of names cousin and it will make it easier in the end :wink: :lol:

False ain’t the word! They are such a FUCKING NUISANCE to Cyprus 35 years on! I’d happily blow these traitors away at point blank!
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Postby Oracle » Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:27 pm

Get Real! wrote:
zan wrote:How about starting up a campaign GR, to oust all these false Cypriots like Oracle from the land...After all....Asking us to get rid of the settlers and not doing the same is hypocritical isn't it??? 8) Start preparing the list of names cousin and it will make it easier in the end :wink: :lol:

False ain’t the word! They are such a FUCKING NUISANCE to Cyprus 35 years on! I’d happily blow these traitors away at point blank!


Get Real! ... I know what Zan is asking you for!

I guess this is where I find out how treasonous you can be .....
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