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[jesus]

Obviously, I am wasting my time in here. Some of you here have no idea about discussing a subject in a civilized manner. Some can't express feelings without insulting the other party.

Have fun all of you! I am outta here!

[cannedmoose]

Obviously, I am wasting my time in here. Some of you here have no idea about discussing a subject in a civilized manner. Some can't express feelings without insulting the other party.

Have fun all of you! I am outta here!

Jesus, I think the point that you made justifies your continued participation, as you said some people in here seem unable to discuss in a civilised way, I would say the majority are and I would include you in that. Just look past the bluster if you can and see what people are really saying. Then I think you could continue to make a worthy contribution to this forum...

[Kifeas]

Jesus and JustAnAmerican,

Isn’t it easier to compensate 120,000 Turkish Cypriots to go and live permanently in Turkey, so that we can have only one Cyprus State; than to compensate 200,000 Greek Cypriots that were made refugees from the north of Cyprus, so that we can have two separate States?

After all, Cyprus has always been one entity for thousands of years, despite the many foreign occupiers throughout it’s history and also, the Greek Cypriots have been living in the entire of this country ever since the appearance of written history, some 3,500 years ago, while the Turkish Cypriots have been living in this country for only 400 years.

What is more logical of the two?

[Viewpoint]

Kifeas you are twisting words to suit your means and distorting what contributors are really trying to say, this to me reveals your true colours about riding the island of TCs which was a 1960 ideal.
TCs only refer to compensation for GCs if it is beyond a realistic possiblity for that individual to get back what they owned pre 1974, we never dictate that that individual should be paid off and told to leave the island where he belongs, why do you do this????

[magikthrill]

TCs only refer to compensation for GCs if it is beyond a realistic possiblity for that individual to get back what they owned pre 1974, we never dictate that that individual should be paid off and told to leave the island where he belongs, why do you do this????

you forgot to add:

and those GCs that get to return to their ancestral island should become a minority with no political voice in their own homeland

[Viewpoint]

magikthrill you are right under normal conditions but we have an anomaly situation which calls for measure that will help elivate mistrust and build a common goal, we cant get from level 0 to 10 in one jump we have to take it in stages building trust.
Those GCs that reside in the TCCS can freely cast their vote but intially for Candidates in the GCCS that they feel can respresent them. After an agree interim period and building of trust this can be reviewed and if both sides agree can be adjusted along the lines of other countires within the EU.
Is this so unrealistic??

[magikthrill]

magikthrill you are right under normal conditions but we have an anomaly situation which calls for measure that will help elivate mistrust and build a common goal, we cant get from level 0 to 10 in one jump we have to take it in stages building trust.
Those GCs that reside in the TCCS can freely cast their vote but intially for Candidates in the GCCS that they feel can respresent them. After an agree interim period and building of trust this can be reviewed and if both sides agree can be adjusted along the lines of other countires within the EU.
Is this so unrealistic??

abslutely not. and i am quite shocked you said something like this. the problem we have the lies in who gets to go back to their ancestral home and who doesn't.

ive always proposed that the initial TC refugees and their descendants be subtracted from the GC refugees and their descendants and those should be offered to return to their homes.

whatchu think about that?

[Viewpoint]

magikthrill

abslutely not. and i am quite shocked you said something like this. the problem we have the lies in who gets to go back to their ancestral home and who doesn't.

ive always proposed that the initial TC refugees and their descendants be subtracted from the GC refugees and their descendants and those should be offered to return to their homes.

whatchu think about that?

Are your agreeing with me?? I didnt reallly understand your response could you please be more specific.

[magikthrill]

i agreed initially with you. and then i proposed which refugees should be allowed to go back. and then i asked if you agreed with my proposal.

[Viewpoint]

magikthrill surely it would all depend on whose property has been developed to a level where is not feasible for it to be returned etc etc, the remaining properties could be returned and those that are unable to return could either get compensation or a plot in a similar location. But Im sure you will not agreee with me intially I still feel thet the number of GCs returning to the TCCS should be limited to around 30% of TCs population until a time when everyone feels enough trust and goodwill has been developed to warrant further integration of our communities.