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[Paphitis]

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Btw, the “BBF” you promote is nothing less than partition disguised with a fancy name.

You know it and I know it, but some of you are more patriotic to your pockets than your country Bananiot!

I promote nothing, I simply tell my opinion. You do not have to agree with me, but you need to explain yourself about your second statement, if you have any decency left.

Your percentages are also wrong. DIKO and EDEK got 26.82% of the popular vote in the 2006 Parliamentary elections. However, this was during the tenure of Papadopoulos and really they should have done better. Come next elections I can safely predict that their percentage will drop to 22%. This was always the case when DIKO was not forming government. Anyone who has any doubts can check past history.

Ans what about the European Party? Add their vote, and then DIKO and EDEK exceed 30%.

EVROKO are bunch of malakas, what percentage do they command? Less than the threshold required to get a seat in the next elections.

They got 5.8% of the vote and won 3 seats in the Legislative council.

Diko got 17.9% of the vote, and EDEK got 8.9%

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_Cyprus

Therefore, these 3 parties account for a combined 32.6%.

Why are they "malakas"?

Syllouris and Koutsou are two of the biggest idiots in Cyprus politics, their stance after the first round of the last presidential elections proved that!

No way they will get a seat in the house again.

Apart from that, with DISY and AKEL having over 60% of the votes, what difference can EVROKO make?

But AKEL and DISY will never form an alliance, but DIKO, EDEK and AKEL are currently in coalition and just like they have for many years now.

What was their stance at the last election? As far as I know, their stance on the Cyprus Problem is very similar to DIKO and EDEK!

They promote a European Solution to Cyprus, in full compliance of the EU Charter.

[Bananiot]

You should also add the ecologists. I reckon EVROKO will get about 2.5-3.0 and the ecologists about 1.5-2.0. Altogether, about 28% for the next election.

Piratis thinks that I am making assumptions but here we are only talking about possible party percentages in the next elections. If he wants to make extrapolations as to what the party supporters will vote if they are confronted with another plan that can be agreed by the two leaders, I have no doubt that this solution proposition will get through with flying colours, even if Christofias does not cry when he calls the bananiots to give a blistering yes vote.

And, how does Piratis know that all DIKO and EDEK supporters are outright rejectionists? I think he is the one making assumptions here.

[Piratis]

Apart from that, with DISY and AKEL having over 60% of the votes, what difference can EVROKO make?

You are making the same mistake as Bananiot. They can get those percentages in elections because people vote for those that they have connections with, to elect them in positions that they will be able to provide rousfetti to them easier. Even the more "moral" people vote having several factors in mind, not just the Cyprus Problem. And even when those people do consider the Cyprus Problem as one of the factors, what they see in AKEL is a party which rejected the Annan plan and even DISY had to withdraw its support from Annan plan after it was rejected by the people. They only ones who insisted on Annan plan are Bananiots EDI, and I already told you what happened to those.

A referendum for the solution of Cyprus problem is a very different thing from elections and the last referendum has shown this (otherwise we would be talking about a 30%+ "yes" votes just from DYSI, without counting EDI, and those from AKEL and other parties who voted "yes")

[Paphitis]

You should also add the ecologists. I reckon EVROKO will get about 2.5-3.0 and the ecologists about 1.5-2.0. Altogether, about 28% for the next election.

Piratis thinks that I am making assumptions but here we are only talking about possible party percentages in the next elections. If he wants to make extrapolations as to what the party supporters will vote if they are confronted by another plan that can be agreed by the two leaders, I have no doubt that this solution proposition will get through with flying colours, even if Christofias does not cry when he calls the bananiots to give a blistering yes vote.

And, how does Piratis know that all DIKO and EDEK supporters are outright rejectionists? I think he is the one making assumptions here.

Its pretty safe to assume that most voters of DIKO, EDEK, and EVROKO reject the Annan Plan outright.

Since the no vote was 76%, and the yes vote was a mere 24%, then we can presume that a whopping 57% of DISY and AKEL supporters are actually in more agreement with DIKO, EDEK and EVROKO party policies on The Cyprus Problem.

So Piratis is quite right...

[Piratis]

And, how does Piratis know that all DIKO and EDEK supporters are outright rejectionists? I think he is the one making assumptions here.

What I know is that 76% of the people reject the Annan plan and similar. I never said that no supporter of EDEK or DIKO is an acceptionist. Those that are acceptionists have already voted yes in last referendum.

If he wants to make extrapolations as to what the party supporters will vote if they are confronted with another plan that can be agreed by the two leaders, I have no doubt that this solution proposition will get through with flying colours, even if Christofias does not cry when he calls the bananiots to give a blistering yes vote.

You are lucky that Christofias knows way better than you and he will never put an Annan kind of plan in a referendum again, otherwise you would be proven wrong once again.

In the referendum 24% voted "yes". For 50%+ you need another 26%. For AKEL to be able to give such percentage in additional to that 24% it would mean that almost no AKEL supporter is already in that first 24% and that all AKEL supporters would now follow AKEL line and vote "yes" in the next referendum.

Both such assumptions are false. There are AKEL supporters in that 24% (I know several) and there are AKEL supporters that would never vote for something like Annan plan even if it is the party line (I know many).

[Piratis]

As far as numbers go, the most striking example was with DISY supporters; roughly two-thirds voted ‘no’, in defiance of the party’s official line.

But for Papageorgiou, the most “stunning” result came from sympathisers of the United Democrats, headed by former president George Vassiliou. The party has over the years adopted a highly consistent strategy on the Cyprus issue; nevertheless, exit polls showed around 40 per cent of party supporters had their own ideas about the referendum and voted ‘no’.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main_ol ... &archive=1

One would think that the Bananiots would learn something, but apparently they didn't.

[Bananiot]

Tell the full story. You have left out the ambient atmosphere conditions that prevailed prior to the referendum. Perhaps you are counting for a repeat ...

[Paphitis]

Tell the full story. You have left out the ambient atmosphere conditions that prevailed prior to the referendum. Perhaps you are counting for a repeat ...

People would have voted no, regardless of the infamous emotional speech by Tassos Papadopoulos.

What Piratis is trying to tell you is that the electorate was strongly against the Annan Plan, even in defiance of the official line of the parties they traditionally support.

I remember the majority of the Cypriot Community in Australia was outraged with the Annan Plan, even before that speech.

[Christine Toskos]

The Cypriot community in the US also were against the Annan Plan. It was pro Turkish not Turkish Cypriot but Turks of Turkey that is why it was unacceptable.

[YFred]

The Cypriot community in the US also were against the Annan Plan. It was pro Turkish not Turkish Cypriot but Turks of Turkey that is why it was unacceptable.

I've cracked it. C T is DT in disguise wearing a Burka.
Oracle I take it back.