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[Kibrisli Turk]

The integration of the North of Cyprus into the Republic of Cyprus is not just inevitable, but has already started, leaving us with one real question as Turkish Cypriots, Is Turkey mocking us? I think so.

Here is the evidence of how Cyprus is automatically unifying:

1) Many Turkish Cypriots travel freely to and from the Republic of Cyprus (ROC) on a daily basis to work.

2) Many Turkish Cypriots (at least 22'000 out of a possible 87'000) all hold Republic of Cyprus passports, travel to Europe via Larnaca and consider themselves as a citizen of the Republic of Cyprus when they are abroad particularly in London, Germany, France and etc.

3) The border is gradually being pulled down via the opening of more and more check points on a yearly basis since 2004.

4) The Universities, or at least most of them in the northern part of Cyprus administered by us Turkish Cypriots have very close links with those in the Republic of Cyprus. There is even a department in the University of Cyprus dedicated only to Turkish Studies.

5) The so-called "TRNC" I have lived in all these years is still not recognised, as was promises many moons ago - how funny it is to play with people's lives, particularly in this day an age.

6) As for those Turkish Cypriots who refuse to obtain their rightful Republic of Cyprus passports and citizenship rights before travelling abroad, they are subjected to the same treatment as if they are citizens of non-EU member Turkey. This also requires them to have to apply for Visa from that particular country, and if they are granted, before leaving the "trnc". What a joke in the year 2009.

7) All Turkish Cypriots in the northern area of Cyprus now only talk about buying land is original "Turkish" owned pre-1974 areas! Why? Because the know that the Greek Cypriot original owners will one day return to their land and that we will also be able to return to ous in Larnaca for instance. I gues we can now, but are holding out until a mutual agreement is made.

There are many other reason I can pick on regarding this question, but I find it extremely unfortunate and sad on how Turkey has really tricked us Turkish Cypriots since 1974. Their unfulfilled promises, lies and now our land being occupied by a majority of Turkish settlers.

I see Turkey as a huge coward, one that can't gain the recognition of an area so small as northern Cyprus since 1974 when other countries through intelligent and bold politics have - like the UK in the Falklands and etc. What a bunch of donkeys we Turkish Cypriots have been left with. It's now obvious that President Christofias and Talat will fail once again in the establishment of a Federal model, northern Cyprus will be left alone again until probably the year 2018 or so until Turkey realises what it must do to join the EU and then it, Turkey that is, will do what it should have done in the first place.....remove its troops from Cyprus and re-establish the Cyprus constitution as how it should have done back in 1974 after on a few months of initially intervening.

I don't believe Turkey can, or will be able to gain any recognition of the "TRNC", or have the so called Isolation removed - that is just a lie they have been feeding us Turkish Cypriots to keep us quiet. Turkey is a weak and non-thinking entity when it comes to the Cyprus problem and I hope some of its government officers are reading this posting in a realisation of how fed up, angry and frustrated we Turkish Cypriots are for wasting our lives and our so called born "trnc" children's lives.

My son was born in an unrecognised state. He is now studying in a university in England and has only two passports - A "Republic of Cyprus" passports as he's never coming back to the "TRNC" to live again, and will soon be granted a "British Passport". That's what our Turkish Cypriot politicians have created from their waste of time policies since 1974. If they were not going to push and fight for the recognition of the "TRNC" then why the hell did they bother illegally declare the "TRNC" a republic in 1983. We would have been better to have remained as the "Turkish Federated State of Cyprus" until a united model was found where at least we would not have been isolated for so long.

I do not blame the Greek Cypriots for our isolation, but the Turkish government, and our stupid puppet one in the north for wasting so much time and lives. Where has it got us all....exactly, nowhere?

If our leaders fail to unify the island before next April and Eroglu gets into power, then I believe that either a war is going to break out as we Turkish Cypriots are frustrated or we will be forced to live under the Republic of Turkey, which would be a disaster.

As for what I have said above in point form, I hope the Republic of Cyprus speeds up its property campaign, its opening of the border check points and its issuing of Republic of Cyprus passports to all 87'000 Turkish Cypriot ROC Citizens before Turkey grows a brain!

[Christine Toskos]

That what I been saying. Cypriot Turks must be the ones to kick their slave masters out of our island and told never to return. Greeks must be allowed to return to the homes. Don't allow Turkey to win by keeping the Cypriot Turks slaves. Eoak against the ottoman Turks of Turkey. Kick them out by fighting them. We Greeks are trying but you are too afraid to kick the bums out.

[Oracle]

... If our leaders fail to unify the island before next April and Eroglu gets into power, then I believe that either a war is going to break out as we Turkish Cypriots are frustrated or we will be forced to live under the Republic of Turkey, which would be a disaster.

Are you saying that there are TCs who are so frustrated, they are ready and willing to go to war with Turkey?

[Christine Toskos]

Only TC can rise up and fight against their oppressors.

[Gabira]

Only TC can rise up and fight against their oppressors.

Well to war with the 'ROC' it is then

[Oracle]

... If our leaders fail to unify the island before next April and Eroglu gets into power, then I believe that either a war is going to break out as we Turkish Cypriots are frustrated or we will be forced to live under the Republic of Turkey, which would be a disaster.

Are you saying that there are TCs who are so frustrated, they are ready and willing to go to war with Turkey?

Answer:

See Gabira's post ....

Seems not!

... all they want to is to get rid of more GCs, take the whole island and rectify the "half-hearted" job they did in 1974....

[GeorgeV97qaue]

Only TC can rise up and fight against their oppressors.

Well to war with the 'ROC' it is then

You idiot

[Viewpoint]

The integration of the North of Cyprus into the Republic of Cyprus is not just inevitable, but has already started, leaving us with one real question as Turkish Cypriots, Is Turkey mocking us? I think so.

Here is the evidence of how Cyprus is automatically unifying:

1) Many Turkish Cypriots travel freely to and from the Republic of Cyprus (ROC) on a daily basis to work.

2) Many Turkish Cypriots (at least 22'000 out of a possible 87'000) all hold Republic of Cyprus passports, travel to Europe via Larnaca and consider themselves as a citizen of the Republic of Cyprus when they are abroad particularly in London, Germany, France and etc.

3) The border is gradually being pulled down via the opening of more and more check points on a yearly basis since 2004.

4) The Universities, or at least most of them in the northern part of Cyprus administered by us Turkish Cypriots have very close links with those in the Republic of Cyprus. There is even a department in the University of Cyprus dedicated only to Turkish Studies.

5) The so-called "TRNC" I have lived in all these years is still not recognised, as was promises many moons ago - how funny it is to play with people's lives, particularly in this day an age.

6) As for those Turkish Cypriots who refuse to obtain their rightful Republic of Cyprus passports and citizenship rights before travelling abroad, they are subjected to the same treatment as if they are citizens of non-EU member Turkey. This also requires them to have to apply for Visa from that particular country, and if they are granted, before leaving the "trnc". What a joke in the year 2009.

7) All Turkish Cypriots in the northern area of Cyprus now only talk about buying land is original "Turkish" owned pre-1974 areas! Why? Because the know that the Greek Cypriot original owners will one day return to their land and that we will also be able to return to ous in Larnaca for instance. I gues we can now, but are holding out until a mutual agreement is made.

There are many other reason I can pick on regarding this question, but I find it extremely unfortunate and sad on how Turkey has really tricked us Turkish Cypriots since 1974. Their unfulfilled promises, lies and now our land being occupied by a majority of Turkish settlers.

I see Turkey as a huge coward, one that can't gain the recognition of an area so small as northern Cyprus since 1974 when other countries through intelligent and bold politics have - like the UK in the Falklands and etc. What a bunch of donkeys we Turkish Cypriots have been left with. It's now obvious that President Christofias and Talat will fail once again in the establishment of a Federal model, northern Cyprus will be left alone again until probably the year 2018 or so until Turkey realises what it must do to join the EU and then it, Turkey that is, will do what it should have done in the first place.....remove its troops from Cyprus and re-establish the Cyprus constitution as how it should have done back in 1974 after on a few months of initially intervening.

I don't believe Turkey can, or will be able to gain any recognition of the "TRNC", or have the so called Isolation removed - that is just a lie they have been feeding us Turkish Cypriots to keep us quiet. Turkey is a weak and non-thinking entity when it comes to the Cyprus problem and I hope some of its government officers are reading this posting in a realisation of how fed up, angry and frustrated we Turkish Cypriots are for wasting our lives and our so called born "trnc" children's lives.

My son was born in an unrecognised state. He is now studying in a university in England and has only two passports - A "Republic of Cyprus" passports as he's never coming back to the "TRNC" to live again, and will soon be granted a "British Passport". That's what our Turkish Cypriot politicians have created from their waste of time policies since 1974. If they were not going to push and fight for the recognition of the "TRNC" then why the hell did they bother illegally declare the "TRNC" a republic in 1983. We would have been better to have remained as the "Turkish Federated State of Cyprus" until a united model was found where at least we would not have been isolated for so long.

I do not blame the Greek Cypriots for our isolation, but the Turkish government, and our stupid puppet one in the north for wasting so much time and lives. Where has it got us all....exactly, nowhere?

If our leaders fail to unify the island before next April and Eroglu gets into power, then I believe that either a war is going to break out as we Turkish Cypriots are frustrated or we will be forced to live under the Republic of Turkey, which would be a disaster.

As for what I have said above in point form, I hope the Republic of Cyprus speeds up its property campaign, its opening of the border check points and its issuing of Republic of Cyprus passports to all 87'000 Turkish Cypriot ROC Citizens before Turkey grows a brain!

KT can you tell us the difference between 1963-1974 and 1974 todate for TCs which do you prefer?

[bill cobbett]

The integration of the North of Cyprus into the Republic of Cyprus is not just inevitable, but has already started, leaving us with one real question as Turkish Cypriots, Is Turkey mocking us? I think so.

Here is the evidence of how Cyprus is automatically unifying:

1) Many Turkish Cypriots travel freely to and from the Republic of Cyprus (ROC) on a daily basis to work.

2) Many Turkish Cypriots (at least 22'000 out of a possible 87'000) all hold Republic of Cyprus passports, travel to Europe via Larnaca and consider themselves as a citizen of the Republic of Cyprus when they are abroad particularly in London, Germany, France and etc.

3) The border is gradually being pulled down via the opening of more and more check points on a yearly basis since 2004.

4) The Universities, or at least most of them in the northern part of Cyprus administered by us Turkish Cypriots have very close links with those in the Republic of Cyprus. There is even a department in the University of Cyprus dedicated only to Turkish Studies.

5) The so-called "TRNC" I have lived in all these years is still not recognised, as was promises many moons ago - how funny it is to play with people's lives, particularly in this day an age.

6) As for those Turkish Cypriots who refuse to obtain their rightful Republic of Cyprus passports and citizenship rights before travelling abroad, they are subjected to the same treatment as if they are citizens of non-EU member Turkey. This also requires them to have to apply for Visa from that particular country, and if they are granted, before leaving the "trnc". What a joke in the year 2009.

7) All Turkish Cypriots in the northern area of Cyprus now only talk about buying land is original "Turkish" owned pre-1974 areas! Why? Because the know that the Greek Cypriot original owners will one day return to their land and that we will also be able to return to ous in Larnaca for instance. I gues we can now, but are holding out until a mutual agreement is made.

There are many other reason I can pick on regarding this question, but I find it extremely unfortunate and sad on how Turkey has really tricked us Turkish Cypriots since 1974. Their unfulfilled promises, lies and now our land being occupied by a majority of Turkish settlers.

I see Turkey as a huge coward, one that can't gain the recognition of an area so small as northern Cyprus since 1974 when other countries through intelligent and bold politics have - like the UK in the Falklands and etc. What a bunch of donkeys we Turkish Cypriots have been left with. It's now obvious that President Christofias and Talat will fail once again in the establishment of a Federal model, northern Cyprus will be left alone again until probably the year 2018 or so until Turkey realises what it must do to join the EU and then it, Turkey that is, will do what it should have done in the first place.....remove its troops from Cyprus and re-establish the Cyprus constitution as how it should have done back in 1974 after on a few months of initially intervening.

I don't believe Turkey can, or will be able to gain any recognition of the "TRNC", or have the so called Isolation removed - that is just a lie they have been feeding us Turkish Cypriots to keep us quiet. Turkey is a weak and non-thinking entity when it comes to the Cyprus problem and I hope some of its government officers are reading this posting in a realisation of how fed up, angry and frustrated we Turkish Cypriots are for wasting our lives and our so called born "trnc" children's lives.

My son was born in an unrecognised state. He is now studying in a university in England and has only two passports - A "Republic of Cyprus" passports as he's never coming back to the "TRNC" to live again, and will soon be granted a "British Passport". That's what our Turkish Cypriot politicians have created from their waste of time policies since 1974. If they were not going to push and fight for the recognition of the "TRNC" then why the hell did they bother illegally declare the "TRNC" a republic in 1983. We would have been better to have remained as the "Turkish Federated State of Cyprus" until a united model was found where at least we would not have been isolated for so long.

I do not blame the Greek Cypriots for our isolation, but the Turkish government, and our stupid puppet one in the north for wasting so much time and lives. Where has it got us all....exactly, nowhere?

If our leaders fail to unify the island before next April and Eroglu gets into power, then I believe that either a war is going to break out as we Turkish Cypriots are frustrated or we will be forced to live under the Republic of Turkey, which would be a disaster.

As for what I have said above in point form, I hope the Republic of Cyprus speeds up its property campaign, its opening of the border check points and its issuing of Republic of Cyprus passports to all 87'000 Turkish Cypriot ROC Citizens before Turkey grows a brain!

Thanks for an obviously heart-felt and an informative post mate/matess.

Very heartening to hear a good many tissies know they live in 2009 with aspirations to match these more enlightened times rather than the usual pollocks we get from the usual partitionist who only seek to hang on to their rewards from the Illegal Regime by seeking to divide with their long-playing records from 50 years ago.

[GeorgeV97qaue]

The integration of the North of Cyprus into the Republic of Cyprus is not just inevitable, but has already started, leaving us with one real question as Turkish Cypriots, Is Turkey mocking us? I think so.

Here is the evidence of how Cyprus is automatically unifying:

1) Many Turkish Cypriots travel freely to and from the Republic of Cyprus (ROC) on a daily basis to work.

2) Many Turkish Cypriots (at least 22'000 out of a possible 87'000) all hold Republic of Cyprus passports, travel to Europe via Larnaca and consider themselves as a citizen of the Republic of Cyprus when they are abroad particularly in London, Germany, France and etc.

3) The border is gradually being pulled down via the opening of more and more check points on a yearly basis since 2004.

4) The Universities, or at least most of them in the northern part of Cyprus administered by us Turkish Cypriots have very close links with those in the Republic of Cyprus. There is even a department in the University of Cyprus dedicated only to Turkish Studies.

5) The so-called "TRNC" I have lived in all these years is still not recognised, as was promises many moons ago - how funny it is to play with people's lives, particularly in this day an age.

6) As for those Turkish Cypriots who refuse to obtain their rightful Republic of Cyprus passports and citizenship rights before travelling abroad, they are subjected to the same treatment as if they are citizens of non-EU member Turkey. This also requires them to have to apply for Visa from that particular country, and if they are granted, before leaving the "trnc". What a joke in the year 2009.

7) All Turkish Cypriots in the northern area of Cyprus now only talk about buying land is original "Turkish" owned pre-1974 areas! Why? Because the know that the Greek Cypriot original owners will one day return to their land and that we will also be able to return to ous in Larnaca for instance. I gues we can now, but are holding out until a mutual agreement is made.

There are many other reason I can pick on regarding this question, but I find it extremely unfortunate and sad on how Turkey has really tricked us Turkish Cypriots since 1974. Their unfulfilled promises, lies and now our land being occupied by a majority of Turkish settlers.

I see Turkey as a huge coward, one that can't gain the recognition of an area so small as northern Cyprus since 1974 when other countries through intelligent and bold politics have - like the UK in the Falklands and etc. What a bunch of donkeys we Turkish Cypriots have been left with. It's now obvious that President Christofias and Talat will fail once again in the establishment of a Federal model, northern Cyprus will be left alone again until probably the year 2018 or so until Turkey realises what it must do to join the EU and then it, Turkey that is, will do what it should have done in the first place.....remove its troops from Cyprus and re-establish the Cyprus constitution as how it should have done back in 1974 after on a few months of initially intervening.

I don't believe Turkey can, or will be able to gain any recognition of the "TRNC", or have the so called Isolation removed - that is just a lie they have been feeding us Turkish Cypriots to keep us quiet. Turkey is a weak and non-thinking entity when it comes to the Cyprus problem and I hope some of its government officers are reading this posting in a realisation of how fed up, angry and frustrated we Turkish Cypriots are for wasting our lives and our so called born "trnc" children's lives.

My son was born in an unrecognised state. He is now studying in a university in England and has only two passports - A "Republic of Cyprus" passports as he's never coming back to the "TRNC" to live again, and will soon be granted a "British Passport". That's what our Turkish Cypriot politicians have created from their waste of time policies since 1974. If they were not going to push and fight for the recognition of the "TRNC" then why the hell did they bother illegally declare the "TRNC" a republic in 1983. We would have been better to have remained as the "Turkish Federated State of Cyprus" until a united model was found where at least we would not have been isolated for so long.

I do not blame the Greek Cypriots for our isolation, but the Turkish government, and our stupid puppet one in the north for wasting so much time and lives. Where has it got us all....exactly, nowhere?

If our leaders fail to unify the island before next April and Eroglu gets into power, then I believe that either a war is going to break out as we Turkish Cypriots are frustrated or we will be forced to live under the Republic of Turkey, which would be a disaster.

As for what I have said above in point form, I hope the Republic of Cyprus speeds up its property campaign, its opening of the border check points and its issuing of Republic of Cyprus passports to all 87'000 Turkish Cypriot ROC Citizens before Turkey grows a brain!

KT can you tell us the difference between 1963-1974 and 1974 todate for TCs which do you prefer?

Whats wrong VP? You have your view Kibrisli Turk has his point of view. At least not all TC's have been brain washed by Turkey. You worried more TC's will come out with same view.

Good on Kibrisli Turk well said mate.