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Integration of North and South is inevitable

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby YFred » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:14 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Oracle wrote:
zan wrote:...I have every right to buy 40 donums of so called GC land and do whatever the hell I want to do with it. :evil:


You have no right to buy land from someone who themselves have no rights to "sell" it to you because they have stolen it from the legal owner ...

If you consider the GC TRNC land stolen, then TC RoC land is also stolen. If you didn't want it sold, then you should have signed an peace agreement and removed the isolation.
The old saying goes, they made me do it gov, honest. We as TCs only accept 30% of the responsibility, the other 70% is yours, going by the constitution and all that.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



Are you a politician Yfred? :evil:

One member of the Yfred clan is almost there. But not yet. If he gets ellected as an MP I'll let you know.
I learned him everything he knows. Only joking. :lol: :lol: :lol:



A Brit MP? :lol:

Noooooooooo. CTP in TRNC :lol: :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:30 pm

YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Oracle wrote:
zan wrote:...I have every right to buy 40 donums of so called GC land and do whatever the hell I want to do with it. :evil:


You have no right to buy land from someone who themselves have no rights to "sell" it to you because they have stolen it from the legal owner ...

If you consider the GC TRNC land stolen, then TC RoC land is also stolen. If you didn't want it sold, then you should have signed an peace agreement and removed the isolation.
The old saying goes, they made me do it gov, honest. We as TCs only accept 30% of the responsibility, the other 70% is yours, going by the constitution and all that.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



Are you a politician Yfred? :evil:

One member of the Yfred clan is almost there. But not yet. If he gets ellected as an MP I'll let you know.
I learned him everything he knows. Only joking. :lol: :lol: :lol:



A Brit MP? :lol:

Noooooooooo. CTP in TRNC :lol: :lol:



I hope he serves Cypriots well. :?
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Postby YFred » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:36 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Oracle wrote:
zan wrote:...I have every right to buy 40 donums of so called GC land and do whatever the hell I want to do with it. :evil:


You have no right to buy land from someone who themselves have no rights to "sell" it to you because they have stolen it from the legal owner ...

If you consider the GC TRNC land stolen, then TC RoC land is also stolen. If you didn't want it sold, then you should have signed an peace agreement and removed the isolation.
The old saying goes, they made me do it gov, honest. We as TCs only accept 30% of the responsibility, the other 70% is yours, going by the constitution and all that.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



Are you a politician Yfred? :evil:

One member of the Yfred clan is almost there. But not yet. If he gets ellected as an MP I'll let you know.
I learned him everything he knows. Only joking. :lol: :lol: :lol:



A Brit MP? :lol:

Noooooooooo. CTP in TRNC :lol: :lol:



I hope he serves Cypriots well. :?

He is a True Cypriot. He was working towards peace before the crossings were opened and when who ever talked to GC was accused of of being a gavur lover by Denktas cronies.
He is Cypriot through and through. :lol: :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:49 pm

YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Oracle wrote:
zan wrote:...I have every right to buy 40 donums of so called GC land and do whatever the hell I want to do with it. :evil:


You have no right to buy land from someone who themselves have no rights to "sell" it to you because they have stolen it from the legal owner ...

If you consider the GC TRNC land stolen, then TC RoC land is also stolen. If you didn't want it sold, then you should have signed an peace agreement and removed the isolation.
The old saying goes, they made me do it gov, honest. We as TCs only accept 30% of the responsibility, the other 70% is yours, going by the constitution and all that.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



Are you a politician Yfred? :evil:

One member of the Yfred clan is almost there. But not yet. If he gets ellected as an MP I'll let you know.
I learned him everything he knows. Only joking. :lol: :lol: :lol:



A Brit MP? :lol:

Noooooooooo. CTP in TRNC :lol: :lol:



I hope he serves Cypriots well. :?

He is a True Cypriot. He was working towards peace before the crossings were opened and when who ever talked to GC was accused of of being a gavur lover by Denktas cronies.
He is Cypriot through and through. :lol: :lol:



I certainly know how he feels.

I too have loved ciracık. Nothing wrong with that....esp if reciprocated. :lol: :lol:
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Postby YFred » Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:02 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Oracle wrote:
zan wrote:...I have every right to buy 40 donums of so called GC land and do whatever the hell I want to do with it. :evil:


You have no right to buy land from someone who themselves have no rights to "sell" it to you because they have stolen it from the legal owner ...

If you consider the GC TRNC land stolen, then TC RoC land is also stolen. If you didn't want it sold, then you should have signed an peace agreement and removed the isolation.
The old saying goes, they made me do it gov, honest. We as TCs only accept 30% of the responsibility, the other 70% is yours, going by the constitution and all that.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



Are you a politician Yfred? :evil:

One member of the Yfred clan is almost there. But not yet. If he gets ellected as an MP I'll let you know.
I learned him everything he knows. Only joking. :lol: :lol: :lol:



A Brit MP? :lol:

Noooooooooo. CTP in TRNC :lol: :lol:



I hope he serves Cypriots well. :?

He is a True Cypriot. He was working towards peace before the crossings were opened and when who ever talked to GC was accused of of being a gavur lover by Denktas cronies.
He is Cypriot through and through. :lol: :lol:



I certainly know how he feels.

I too have loved ciracık. Nothing wrong with that....esp if reciprocated. :lol: :lol:

Deniz, his connections with the south were not personal it was political, although he may have had a cira on the side of politics?

Only joking.
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:06 pm

YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Oracle wrote:
zan wrote:...I have every right to buy 40 donums of so called GC land and do whatever the hell I want to do with it. :evil:


You have no right to buy land from someone who themselves have no rights to "sell" it to you because they have stolen it from the legal owner ...

If you consider the GC TRNC land stolen, then TC RoC land is also stolen. If you didn't want it sold, then you should have signed an peace agreement and removed the isolation.
The old saying goes, they made me do it gov, honest. We as TCs only accept 30% of the responsibility, the other 70% is yours, going by the constitution and all that.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



Are you a politician Yfred? :evil:

One member of the Yfred clan is almost there. But not yet. If he gets ellected as an MP I'll let you know.
I learned him everything he knows. Only joking. :lol: :lol: :lol:



A Brit MP? :lol:

Noooooooooo. CTP in TRNC :lol: :lol:



I hope he serves Cypriots well. :?

He is a True Cypriot. He was working towards peace before the crossings were opened and when who ever talked to GC was accused of of being a gavur lover by Denktas cronies.
He is Cypriot through and through. :lol: :lol:



I certainly know how he feels.

I too have loved ciracık. Nothing wrong with that....esp if reciprocated. :lol: :lol:

Deniz, his connections with the south were not personal it was political, although he may have had a cira on the side of politics?

Only joking.



Oh! I see. A politician huh!! :roll:


:lol: :lol:
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Postby Expatkiwi » Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:20 pm

Lit wrote:Why dont you grow some nuts and tell your Turkish wife that ethnic cleansing is wrong? Can the people of Arkansa tell the people of Louisiana that they are not permitted to live in the Arkansas State? Where is your common sense? Cyprus is an EU country you dumb hillbilly. How is it that i am able reside and work in all EU countries and i cant do this in my own country? Dont tread on me....


Ah, so now we're back to stereotyping... First, Hillbillies predominate in Tennessee and Kentucky, not Arkansas. Secondly, if that is what you see me as, then I'll have to see you as an Ouzo-sucking, Sheep-shagging, gun-happy xenophobic zealot!
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Postby Piratis » Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:20 pm

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Lit wrote:Why dont you grow some nuts and tell your Turkish wife that ethnic cleansing is wrong? Can the people of Arkansa tell the people of Louisiana that they are not permitted to live in the Arkansas State? Where is your common sense? Cyprus is an EU country you dumb hillbilly. How is it that i am able reside and work in all EU countries and i cant do this in my own country? Dont tread on me....


Ah, so now we're back to stereotyping... First, Hillbillies predominate in Tennessee and Kentucky, not Arkansas. Secondly, if that is what you see me as, then I'll have to see you as an Ouzo-sucking, Sheep-shagging, gun-happy xenophobic zealot!


You are right Expatwiki, we don't need any stereotyping. We can judge everybody by his views.

You support crimes such as ethnic cleansing and illegalities such as the "trnc". That is more than enough to understand what kind of person you are.
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Postby zan » Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:45 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
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Jimski999 wrote:I’m only speaking from what I see in and around Paphos, it appears that many Turkish Cypriots are voting with their feet and moving South to the ROC controlled areas. They are taking up residence and reclaiming their land and I know for a fact that one of the biggest landowners in an outlying village close to the airport is a Turkish Cypriot. When I first moved to Cyprus a number of years ago the number of Turkish Cypriots living in Paphos was quite small though over the last few years the TC population has grown to quite a large number. Whether they have moved south because of too many false dawns, too many broken promises or just for better living standards I don’t know but what I do know is that they are moving back here. Paphos is now very cosmopolitan with many different nationalities living here and most locals are too busy trying to earn a living to be concerned what ethnic group a person is from. As I have said in other posts my wife is Turkic; we live in a predominantly GC village overlooking Paphos and we have been made to feel very welcome.
It might open one or two of the TC’s eyes on this forum to visit the South and see for themselves how things really are and not believe everything they read in the newspapers or hear on the TV. Kibrisli Turk has made many valid points in his posts and is correct in stating that the more people mix with each other the quicker the barriers will be broken down.
You cannot punish the majority for the actions of a few and that is what VP supports and these innocent people [both TC’s and GC’s] have been punished for over 35 years. Even if you murder someone you don’t get a 35 year prison sentence.
I expected better from Zan; usually whether you agree with him or not he is quite articulate with his answers though to deny there was no ethnic cleansing when even his footnote states that he was kicked out of Cyprus by the GC’s, is absurd.


It was a tongue in cheek poke at the ethnic cleansing issue in which the TC population and what they have lost for ever seems to be trumped by the GC card that is all.....For me to deny ethnic cleansing would just be stupid....Sorry!!!! All I can say after what has happened in Cyprus is so what.....There is no point in time that we can return to that would make everything right. Eggs were broken and all the kings horses and all the kings men cannot put Humpty together again. We have to move on....Believe me when I say that if that point in time existed, I would be screaming for it now!!!


Jimski, you are a miracle worker, mate. You have managed to coax an honest and principled comment from Zan. I always knew that deep down there was a decent bloke there.



When are you planning an OUTING????? 8)
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Postby Expatkiwi » Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:57 pm

Piratis wrote:
You are right Expatwiki, we don't need any stereotyping. We can judge everybody by his views.

You support crimes such as ethnic cleansing and illegalities such as the "trnc". That is more than enough to understand what kind of person you are.


Yeah; a person who cares about the Turkish Cypriot people. 1963-65, 1974, and the embargoes prove just how much you and your ilk care...
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