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Integration of North and South is inevitable

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby denizaksulu » Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:52 am

zan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
Oracle wrote:Thanks for the advice but the Turks have been making my life a misery since 1964. So, I am not holding my breath but that does not mean they are here to stay without opposition... And in due course, justice will be enacted as it always is (just slow and not worth asphyxiating over).


You're right: justice will be served by the realization of the two sovereign state solution for Cyprus.

That's not justice for Cypriots but total victory for Greece and Turkey... the enemies of Cyprus.


If the people of Cyprus decide to live in seperate parts of the island under their own administrations , what would be so wrong with that?


An agreed Partition is one thing and 'Ethnic Cleansing' is another. That is whats wrong.

Not a very good analogy I am afraid.

Regards


There was no ethnic cleansing.....Just people who did not want to live with each other for fear of death. Then a population exchange in the time old manner.....1963 saw the start and 74 the end.....The omlets where then cooked and eaten. 8)



Ofcourse not Zan. Our Greek Cypriot compatriots left for the south to party in Ayia Napa. :roll:


There can only be a perceived "Proper" outcome in total victory Deniz...No one has really won this one so I am afraid it is what it is...The arrow of time goes forward just like the ethnic cleansing of the TC people throughout the 60,s and 70,s. Time has been used to cover up what we owned and our possessions in Cyprus.....Any chance of changing that back also??? :roll:



Do you deny any 'Ethnic C;eanasing' of Greek Cypriots from the north? That was the issue above. If you consider What happened to the TCs during the 60 and 70's as 'Ethnic Cleansing' then do you thing that two wrongs make one right'.? I dont see it as 'pay back' time Zan.


Nothing to do with payback...Just practicality...When they are prepared to admit to ethnic cleansing then I will "Officially" also...That would be payback IN KIND>>>>>>>>NESS.

The RIGHT in this is to move on.....We have two states BECAUSE of our ways (Crimes) and support the TRNC but not the "RoC" because they are still after my blood....You always have the choice of the two.....


Fine, I have a choice. My choice is that I refuse to live in a place which has been systematically ethnically cleansed. I do not, as far as I am concerned applies to my family from the south.


So ditch the whole island!!!Never set foot on her again!!! I personally have had enough of my family suffering and my father not being able to even see his land since 1965.....I have every right to buy 40 donums of so called GC land and do whatever the hell I want to do with it. If at some time they want o give me my real land back then they can pay to move my house and my family and whatever else I might build on it.....Enough is enough!!!!! :evil:


You did say I have a choice Zan. Are you telling me to ditch the whole island? Never. The whole island is mine. :lol: I pity you that you cannot say the same.
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Postby Piratis » Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:53 am

I personally have had enough of my family suffering and my father not being able to even see his land since 1965.....I have every right to buy 40 donums of so called GC land and do whatever the hell I want to do with it.


This comment confirms what I said about you being upset for not having a share of the loots.

Instead of resorting to crimes it would be much easier to get your own property, if you indeed have some in the free areas of the Republic. If you have been abroad since 1965 then doing so is even easier.
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Postby YFred » Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:13 am

denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
Oracle wrote:Thanks for the advice but the Turks have been making my life a misery since 1964. So, I am not holding my breath but that does not mean they are here to stay without opposition... And in due course, justice will be enacted as it always is (just slow and not worth asphyxiating over).


You're right: justice will be served by the realization of the two sovereign state solution for Cyprus.

That's not justice for Cypriots but total victory for Greece and Turkey... the enemies of Cyprus.


If the people of Cyprus decide to live in seperate parts of the island under their own administrations , what would be so wrong with that?


An agreed Partition is one thing and 'Ethnic Cleansing' is another. That is whats wrong.

Not a very good analogy I am afraid.

Regards


There was no ethnic cleansing.....Just people who did not want to live with each other for fear of death. Then a population exchange in the time old manner.....1963 saw the start and 74 the end.....The omlets where then cooked and eaten. 8)



Ofcourse not Zan. Our Greek Cypriot compatriots left for the south to party in Ayia Napa. :roll:


There can only be a perceived "Proper" outcome in total victory Deniz...No one has really won this one so I am afraid it is what it is...The arrow of time goes forward just like the ethnic cleansing of the TC people throughout the 60,s and 70,s. Time has been used to cover up what we owned and our possessions in Cyprus.....Any chance of changing that back also??? :roll:



Do you deny any 'Ethnic C;eanasing' of Greek Cypriots from the north? That was the issue above. If you consider What happened to the TCs during the 60 and 70's as 'Ethnic Cleansing' then do you thing that two wrongs make one right'.? I dont see it as 'pay back' time Zan.


Nothing to do with payback...Just practicality...When they are prepared to admit to ethnic cleansing then I will "Officially" also...That would be payback IN KIND>>>>>>>>NESS.

The RIGHT in this is to move on.....We have two states BECAUSE of our ways (Crimes) and support the TRNC but not the "RoC" because they are still after my blood....You always have the choice of the two.....


Fine, I have a choice. My choice is that I refuse to live in a place which has been systematically ethnically cleansed. I do not, as far as I am concerned applies to my family from the south.


So ditch the whole island!!!Never set foot on her again!!! I personally have had enough of my family suffering and my father not being able to even see his land since 1965.....I have every right to buy 40 donums of so called GC land and do whatever the hell I want to do with it. If at some time they want o give me my real land back then they can pay to move my house and my family and whatever else I might build on it.....Enough is enough!!!!! :evil:


You did say I have a choice Zan. Are you telling me to ditch the whole island? Never. The whole island is mine. :lol: I pity you that you cannot say the same.

Deniz, you are not having my share unless you ask nicely and say please or Lutfen re Yeroui. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:18 am

zan wrote:...I have every right to buy 40 donums of so called GC land and do whatever the hell I want to do with it. :evil:


You have no right to buy land from someone who themselves have no rights to "sell" it to you because they have stolen it from the legal owner ...
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:37 am

YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
Oracle wrote:Thanks for the advice but the Turks have been making my life a misery since 1964. So, I am not holding my breath but that does not mean they are here to stay without opposition... And in due course, justice will be enacted as it always is (just slow and not worth asphyxiating over).


You're right: justice will be served by the realization of the two sovereign state solution for Cyprus.

That's not justice for Cypriots but total victory for Greece and Turkey... the enemies of Cyprus.


If the people of Cyprus decide to live in seperate parts of the island under their own administrations , what would be so wrong with that?


An agreed Partition is one thing and 'Ethnic Cleansing' is another. That is whats wrong.

Not a very good analogy I am afraid.

Regards


There was no ethnic cleansing.....Just people who did not want to live with each other for fear of death. Then a population exchange in the time old manner.....1963 saw the start and 74 the end.....The omlets where then cooked and eaten. 8)



Ofcourse not Zan. Our Greek Cypriot compatriots left for the south to party in Ayia Napa. :roll:


There can only be a perceived "Proper" outcome in total victory Deniz...No one has really won this one so I am afraid it is what it is...The arrow of time goes forward just like the ethnic cleansing of the TC people throughout the 60,s and 70,s. Time has been used to cover up what we owned and our possessions in Cyprus.....Any chance of changing that back also??? :roll:



Do you deny any 'Ethnic C;eanasing' of Greek Cypriots from the north? That was the issue above. If you consider What happened to the TCs during the 60 and 70's as 'Ethnic Cleansing' then do you thing that two wrongs make one right'.? I dont see it as 'pay back' time Zan.


Nothing to do with payback...Just practicality...When they are prepared to admit to ethnic cleansing then I will "Officially" also...That would be payback IN KIND>>>>>>>>NESS.

The RIGHT in this is to move on.....We have two states BECAUSE of our ways (Crimes) and support the TRNC but not the "RoC" because they are still after my blood....You always have the choice of the two.....


Fine, I have a choice. My choice is that I refuse to live in a place which has been systematically ethnically cleansed. I do not, as far as I am concerned applies to my family from the south.


So ditch the whole island!!!Never set foot on her again!!! I personally have had enough of my family suffering and my father not being able to even see his land since 1965.....I have every right to buy 40 donums of so called GC land and do whatever the hell I want to do with it. If at some time they want o give me my real land back then they can pay to move my house and my family and whatever else I might build on it.....Enough is enough!!!!! :evil:


You did say I have a choice Zan. Are you telling me to ditch the whole island? Never. The whole island is mine. :lol: I pity you that you cannot say the same.

Deniz, you are not having my share unless you ask nicely and say please or Lutfen re Yeroui. :lol: :lol: :lol:



Thankfully I am not after anybody's share. What is mine is mine and what is theirs' is theirs. :lol:

For a mo I thought you were talking about your gleftigo :lol:
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Postby YFred » Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:39 am

Oracle wrote:
zan wrote:...I have every right to buy 40 donums of so called GC land and do whatever the hell I want to do with it. :evil:


You have no right to buy land from someone who themselves have no rights to "sell" it to you because they have stolen it from the legal owner ...

If you consider the GC TRNC land stolen, then TC RoC land is also stolen. If you didn't want it sold, then you should have signed an peace agreement and removed the isolation.
The old saying goes, they made me do it gov, honest. We as TCs only accept 30% of the responsibility, the other 70% is yours, going by the constitution and all that.
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:42 am

YFred wrote:
Oracle wrote:
zan wrote:...I have every right to buy 40 donums of so called GC land and do whatever the hell I want to do with it. :evil:


You have no right to buy land from someone who themselves have no rights to "sell" it to you because they have stolen it from the legal owner ...

If you consider the GC TRNC land stolen, then TC RoC land is also stolen. If you didn't want it sold, then you should have signed an peace agreement and removed the isolation.
The old saying goes, they made me do it gov, honest. We as TCs only accept 30% of the responsibility, the other 70% is yours, going by the constitution and all that.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



Are you a politician Yfred? :evil:
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Postby YFred » Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:46 am

denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Oracle wrote:
zan wrote:...I have every right to buy 40 donums of so called GC land and do whatever the hell I want to do with it. :evil:


You have no right to buy land from someone who themselves have no rights to "sell" it to you because they have stolen it from the legal owner ...

If you consider the GC TRNC land stolen, then TC RoC land is also stolen. If you didn't want it sold, then you should have signed an peace agreement and removed the isolation.
The old saying goes, they made me do it gov, honest. We as TCs only accept 30% of the responsibility, the other 70% is yours, going by the constitution and all that.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



Are you a politician Yfred? :evil:

One member of the Yfred clan is almost there. But not yet. If he gets ellected as an MP I'll let you know.
I learned him everything he knows. Only joking. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby YFred » Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:49 am

denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
Oracle wrote:Thanks for the advice but the Turks have been making my life a misery since 1964. So, I am not holding my breath but that does not mean they are here to stay without opposition... And in due course, justice will be enacted as it always is (just slow and not worth asphyxiating over).


You're right: justice will be served by the realization of the two sovereign state solution for Cyprus.

That's not justice for Cypriots but total victory for Greece and Turkey... the enemies of Cyprus.


If the people of Cyprus decide to live in seperate parts of the island under their own administrations , what would be so wrong with that?


An agreed Partition is one thing and 'Ethnic Cleansing' is another. That is whats wrong.

Not a very good analogy I am afraid.

Regards


There was no ethnic cleansing.....Just people who did not want to live with each other for fear of death. Then a population exchange in the time old manner.....1963 saw the start and 74 the end.....The omlets where then cooked and eaten. 8)



Ofcourse not Zan. Our Greek Cypriot compatriots left for the south to party in Ayia Napa. :roll:


There can only be a perceived "Proper" outcome in total victory Deniz...No one has really won this one so I am afraid it is what it is...The arrow of time goes forward just like the ethnic cleansing of the TC people throughout the 60,s and 70,s. Time has been used to cover up what we owned and our possessions in Cyprus.....Any chance of changing that back also??? :roll:



Do you deny any 'Ethnic C;eanasing' of Greek Cypriots from the north? That was the issue above. If you consider What happened to the TCs during the 60 and 70's as 'Ethnic Cleansing' then do you thing that two wrongs make one right'.? I dont see it as 'pay back' time Zan.


Nothing to do with payback...Just practicality...When they are prepared to admit to ethnic cleansing then I will "Officially" also...That would be payback IN KIND>>>>>>>>NESS.

The RIGHT in this is to move on.....We have two states BECAUSE of our ways (Crimes) and support the TRNC but not the "RoC" because they are still after my blood....You always have the choice of the two.....


Fine, I have a choice. My choice is that I refuse to live in a place which has been systematically ethnically cleansed. I do not, as far as I am concerned applies to my family from the south.


So ditch the whole island!!!Never set foot on her again!!! I personally have had enough of my family suffering and my father not being able to even see his land since 1965.....I have every right to buy 40 donums of so called GC land and do whatever the hell I want to do with it. If at some time they want o give me my real land back then they can pay to move my house and my family and whatever else I might build on it.....Enough is enough!!!!! :evil:


You did say I have a choice Zan. Are you telling me to ditch the whole island? Never. The whole island is mine. :lol: I pity you that you cannot say the same.

Deniz, you are not having my share unless you ask nicely and say please or Lutfen re Yeroui. :lol: :lol: :lol:



Thankfully I am not after anybody's share. What is mine is mine and what is theirs' is theirs. :lol:

For a mo I thought you were talking about your gleftigo :lol:

But you did say the whole island is yours? What you should have said was you are from the whole island. Then we are both from the same place.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:55 am

YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Oracle wrote:
zan wrote:...I have every right to buy 40 donums of so called GC land and do whatever the hell I want to do with it. :evil:


You have no right to buy land from someone who themselves have no rights to "sell" it to you because they have stolen it from the legal owner ...

If you consider the GC TRNC land stolen, then TC RoC land is also stolen. If you didn't want it sold, then you should have signed an peace agreement and removed the isolation.
The old saying goes, they made me do it gov, honest. We as TCs only accept 30% of the responsibility, the other 70% is yours, going by the constitution and all that.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



Are you a politician Yfred? :evil:

One member of the Yfred clan is almost there. But not yet. If he gets ellected as an MP I'll let you know.
I learned him everything he knows. Only joking. :lol: :lol: :lol:



A Brit MP? :lol:
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