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Integration of North and South is inevitable

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Get Real! » Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:36 pm

Expatkiwi wrote:
Oracle wrote:Thanks for the advice but the Turks have been making my life a misery since 1964. So, I am not holding my breath but that does not mean they are here to stay without opposition... And in due course, justice will be enacted as it always is (just slow and not worth asphyxiating over).


You're right: justice will be served by the realization of the two sovereign state solution for Cyprus.

That's not justice for Cypriots but total victory for Greece and Turkey... the enemies of Cyprus.
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Postby Christine Toskos » Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:26 am

Where was Turkey when the Cypriot government that the only real solution must come from Cypriots themselves? Hiding their heads in the sand like always. Just as Jack Nicholson said, "You cannot face the truth!" Just as Jesus said, "There is only one truth!" The truth is Turkey had no right to invade Cyprus. Turkey has no right to have it's troops on Cypriot soil for 35 years. Turkey has no right to steal our homes and destroy our churches. Turkey has no right to hold Turkish Cypriots as prisoners and isolate them from the rest of the world. Cyprus must be free of Turkish occupation. That is the Truth. Is that what Get Real is afraid of hearing? Calling me EOAK is a compliment not an insult. So I say thank you. I like being compared to heroes.
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Postby humanist » Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:14 am

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How it happens more than we think? How can u judge Turkey better than any TC?


most TC's that I have met on this forum with the exception of one or two have been level headed people with valid arguments given their situation and position in the world of Cyprus and how the current situation and past events has shaped their existence.

Turkey has oppressed them and manipulated them and their current position. The fact that in the referendum of 2004 most TC voters voted for unification goes to show me and the world that TC's are fed up by living in under poverished condition relying on Turkey for hand outs which in turn she abuses so that she can enter the EU. Most TC people that I have met on here and in Cyprus in 2007 have spoken to me at length about the settler issue, their disrespect for TC's and the benefits they get over the TC's.

If Turkey had the interests of TC's at heart she would have made sure the Cyprus issue was resolved years ago and her insistannce on maintaining guarantor power over Cyprus. Something the GC's and rightfully so will never accept shows her lack of interest in solving the issue.

Turkey and its government are nothing but fanatical separatist barbarians who do not know of peace but thrive on war and manipulation of 55,000 people they call their own.

I shit on Turkey and its government.
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Postby Expatkiwi » Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:32 am

Get Real! wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
Oracle wrote:Thanks for the advice but the Turks have been making my life a misery since 1964. So, I am not holding my breath but that does not mean they are here to stay without opposition... And in due course, justice will be enacted as it always is (just slow and not worth asphyxiating over).


You're right: justice will be served by the realization of the two sovereign state solution for Cyprus.

That's not justice for Cypriots but total victory for Greece and Turkey... the enemies of Cyprus.


If the people of Cyprus decide to live in seperate parts of the island under their own administrations , what would be so wrong with that?
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Postby Lit » Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:59 am

Expatkiwi wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
Oracle wrote:Thanks for the advice but the Turks have been making my life a misery since 1964. So, I am not holding my breath but that does not mean they are here to stay without opposition... And in due course, justice will be enacted as it always is (just slow and not worth asphyxiating over).


You're right: justice will be served by the realization of the two sovereign state solution for Cyprus.

That's not justice for Cypriots but total victory for Greece and Turkey... the enemies of Cyprus.


If the people of Cyprus decide to live in seperate parts of the island under their own administrations , what would be so wrong with that?


Why dont you grow some nuts and tell your Turkish wife that ethnic cleansing is wrong? Can the people of Arkansa tell the people of Louisiana that they are not permitted to live in the Arkansas State? Where is your common sense? Cyprus is an EU country you dumb hillbilly. How is it that i am able reside and work in all EU countries and i cant do this in my own country? Dont tread on me....

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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:30 am

Expatkiwi wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
Oracle wrote:Thanks for the advice but the Turks have been making my life a misery since 1964. So, I am not holding my breath but that does not mean they are here to stay without opposition... And in due course, justice will be enacted as it always is (just slow and not worth asphyxiating over).


You're right: justice will be served by the realization of the two sovereign state solution for Cyprus.

That's not justice for Cypriots but total victory for Greece and Turkey... the enemies of Cyprus.


If the people of Cyprus decide to live in seperate parts of the island under their own administrations , what would be so wrong with that?


An agreed Partition is one thing and 'Ethnic Cleansing' is another. That is whats wrong.

Not a very good analogy I am afraid.

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Postby zan » Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:28 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
Oracle wrote:Thanks for the advice but the Turks have been making my life a misery since 1964. So, I am not holding my breath but that does not mean they are here to stay without opposition... And in due course, justice will be enacted as it always is (just slow and not worth asphyxiating over).


You're right: justice will be served by the realization of the two sovereign state solution for Cyprus.

That's not justice for Cypriots but total victory for Greece and Turkey... the enemies of Cyprus.


If the people of Cyprus decide to live in seperate parts of the island under their own administrations , what would be so wrong with that?


An agreed Partition is one thing and 'Ethnic Cleansing' is another. That is whats wrong.

Not a very good analogy I am afraid.

Regards


There was no ethnic cleansing.....Just people who did not want to live with each other for fear of death. Then a population exchange in the time old manner.....1963 saw the start and 74 the end.....The omlets where then cooked and eaten. 8)
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:34 am

zan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
Oracle wrote:Thanks for the advice but the Turks have been making my life a misery since 1964. So, I am not holding my breath but that does not mean they are here to stay without opposition... And in due course, justice will be enacted as it always is (just slow and not worth asphyxiating over).


You're right: justice will be served by the realization of the two sovereign state solution for Cyprus.

That's not justice for Cypriots but total victory for Greece and Turkey... the enemies of Cyprus.


If the people of Cyprus decide to live in seperate parts of the island under their own administrations , what would be so wrong with that?


An agreed Partition is one thing and 'Ethnic Cleansing' is another. That is whats wrong.

Not a very good analogy I am afraid.

Regards


There was no ethnic cleansing.....Just people who did not want to live with each other for fear of death. Then a population exchange in the time old manner.....1963 saw the start and 74 the end.....The omlets where then cooked and eaten. 8)



Ofcourse not Zan. Our Greek Cypriot compatriots left for the south to party in Ayia Napa. :roll:
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Postby Jimski999 » Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:46 am

I’m only speaking from what I see in and around Paphos, it appears that many Turkish Cypriots are voting with their feet and moving South to the ROC controlled areas. They are taking up residence and reclaiming their land and I know for a fact that one of the biggest landowners in an outlying village close to the airport is a Turkish Cypriot. When I first moved to Cyprus a number of years ago the number of Turkish Cypriots living in Paphos was quite small though over the last few years the TC population has grown to quite a large number. Whether they have moved south because of too many false dawns, too many broken promises or just for better living standards I don’t know but what I do know is that they are moving back here. Paphos is now very cosmopolitan with many different nationalities living here and most locals are too busy trying to earn a living to be concerned what ethnic group a person is from. As I have said in other posts my wife is Turkic; we live in a predominantly GC village overlooking Paphos and we have been made to feel very welcome.
It might open one or two of the TC’s eyes on this forum to visit the South and see for themselves how things really are and not believe everything they read in the newspapers or hear on the TV. Kibrisli Turk has made many valid points in his posts and is correct in stating that the more people mix with each other the quicker the barriers will be broken down.
You cannot punish the majority for the actions of a few and that is what VP supports and these innocent people [both TC’s and GC’s] have been punished for over 35 years. Even if you murder someone you don’t get a 35 year prison sentence.
I expected better from Zan; usually whether you agree with him or not he is quite articulate with his answers though to deny there was no ethnic cleansing when even his footnote states that he was kicked out of Cyprus by the GC’s, is absurd.
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Postby zan » Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:46 am

denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
Oracle wrote:Thanks for the advice but the Turks have been making my life a misery since 1964. So, I am not holding my breath but that does not mean they are here to stay without opposition... And in due course, justice will be enacted as it always is (just slow and not worth asphyxiating over).


You're right: justice will be served by the realization of the two sovereign state solution for Cyprus.

That's not justice for Cypriots but total victory for Greece and Turkey... the enemies of Cyprus.


If the people of Cyprus decide to live in seperate parts of the island under their own administrations , what would be so wrong with that?


An agreed Partition is one thing and 'Ethnic Cleansing' is another. That is whats wrong.

Not a very good analogy I am afraid.

Regards


There was no ethnic cleansing.....Just people who did not want to live with each other for fear of death. Then a population exchange in the time old manner.....1963 saw the start and 74 the end.....The omlets where then cooked and eaten. 8)



Ofcourse not Zan. Our Greek Cypriot compatriots left for the south to party in Ayia Napa. :roll:


There can only be a perceived "Proper" outcome in total victory Deniz...No one has really won this one so I am afraid it is what it is...The arrow of time goes forward just like the ethnic cleansing of the TC people throughout the 60,s and 70,s. Time has been used to cover up what we owned and our possessions in Cyprus.....Any chance of changing that back also??? :roll:
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