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[Christine Toskos]

But Ataturk did the same thing as Hitler. Did you know that Hitler model himself after Ataturk. Did you know that he said and I quote, " Who remembers the Armenian genocide. The same will be to the Jewish genocide." Ataturk killed my great granduncle. He was studying to be a doctor in Athens. When Symrna burned in 1922. His medical training was needed to treat the refugees. He caught TB. At that time there was no cure for TB. He was sent back to Cyprus to die. he was only 23 years old.

[Bad Boy]

But Ataturk did the same thing as Hitler. Did you know that Hitler model himself after Ataturk. Did you know that he said and I quote, " Who remembers the Armenian genocide. The same will be to the Jewish genocide." Ataturk killed my great granduncle. He was studying to be a doctor in Athens. When Symrna burned in 1922. His medical training was needed to treat the refugees. He caught TB. At that time there was no cure for TB. He was sent back to Cyprus to die. he was only 23 years old.

we are not talking personals here, Hitler is hero for nobody, but ataturk is hero for turks, same as digeni and makariou are for you greeks.

ok, what will be the future of ataturk statues after you get united? will you change all road names on griva digeni? or makario?

[Christine Toskos]

We will use the original names. How do the American people get along? Different languages, different religions, and different cultures. The Turkish Cypriots must learn to respect us as people as we respect them. We did not destroy their mosques but I cannot say the same for our churches. My cousin went to our grandfather grave and the Turks destroyed the cross. Our church was turned into a barn. Why? The Turkish people don't respect Christianity.

[Bad Boy]

We will use the original names. How do the American people get along? Different languages, different religions, and different cultures. The Turkish Cypriots must learn to respect us as people as we respect them. We did not destroy their mosques but I cannot say the same for our churches. My cousin went to our grandfather grave and the Turks destroyed the cross. Our church was turned into a barn. Why? The Turkish people don't respect Christianity.

christofias and talat are arguing on names or not yet? they must do that otherwise they will get surprises after unifications

America is different, GCs or TCs never can be that much civilized. what on the earth makes you to dream like americans while living in Cyprus if you want to destroy Cyprus, just ban sougla, you will see what happens

[Christine Toskos]

Greeks are civilized I can't speak for TC. But my people are civilized. I find that to be insult to humanity since we are the ones who started the Western civilization. Remember, Cypriots are Minoans.

[Bad Boy]

Greeks are civilized I can't speak for TC. But my people are civilized. I find that to be insult to humanity since we are the ones who started the Western civilization. Remember, Cypriots are Minoans.

GCs are Civilized... Let me read the news paper of 27th September 2009,

ok here we go. I don't say that illegal immigrants are Good, but where is your so-called civilization and humanity in all this following action.


http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... &archive=1

Old town raid to net illegal immigrants
By Stefanos Evripidou
(archive article - Saturday, September 26, 2009)
POLICE MOUNTED a massive sweep operation at dawn in old Nicosia yesterday, rounding up 150 people by sunrise in search of illegal immigrants and those responsible for the troubles at the Omeriye mosque earlier this month.

One migrant support group accused the police leadership of giving the impression of tackling “crime” while in reality indiscriminately arresting people in their beds because of the colour of their skin.

Police said the aim of the operation was to prevent crime, combat illegal immigration and restore the sense of security in the old town. This apparent link between illegal immigrants and crime only served to make “racists” feel safer, countered the migrant support group KISA.

According to police, the operation began at 5am yesterday morning and went on for three hours, using a 247-strong police force, including members from Nicosia headquarters, the Mobile Rapid Reaction Unit (MMAD), immigration, traffic police and headquarters CID.

The massive force blocked six points of exit from the old town within the walls, while colleagues entered houses, searched cars and stopped pedestrians, rounding up 150 migrants who were then taken to police stations for identification and processing.

From the 150, 36 were found to be illegally resident in the country and now face deportation, including a mother, her two children and a pregnant woman, while 12 others were arrested based on warrants issued in connection with the Omeriye fracas. The remainder were released.

A police spokesman told the Cyprus Mail that the 12 were arrested based on information that they either incited or provoked the clashes between two groups of worshippers at the Omeriye mosque earlier this month. After questioning, they will either be charged with a criminal offence or released, or deported if found to be illegally resident. However, if they reside legally here and no charges may be filed against them, police do not rule out classifying them as “undesirables” and deporting them anyway, he said.

“These operations will continue and our ultimate goal is to get some control now on illegal and legal aliens” residing in the government-controlled areas of the Republic, said Justice Minister Loucas Louca at a press conference yesterday.

Asked why more action was not taken given the thousands estimated to reside illegally in Cyprus, the minister cited a lack of infrastructure regarding the number of holding cells or detention centres available to process illegal migrants.

“Yes, there is a problem with detention space. We hope this will be solved in 2010 when the detention centre in Mennoyia will be ready, with a capacity to hold 256 people,” he said.

Louca explained that the lack of space to hold migrants without legal papers until deportation was the reason why police targeted specific areas and people. He denied suggestions that the economic cost of deportation was being taken into account.

“The aim was to prevent crime, solve crimes committed, and reinstate the sense of security of residents and visitors to Nicosia within the walls,” said Police Chief Michalis Papageorgiou at the same conference.

“If such a situation continues within the walls or elsewhere of course we will organise such operations,” he added.

After repeated questions by members of the media as to why more was not done to tackle illegal migration and end the “ghettoisation” of parts of the city, the minister said the government did not “want to give the impression, nor be criticised by the EU, that we use the same methods as Italy. So we are careful and our actions are targeted”.

He added that the new police leadership planned to increase patrols “in dangerous areas” while Papageorgiou said he had submitted proposals to criminalise the act of renting accommodation to illegal migrants.

Nicosia Mayor Eleni Mavrou highlighted that many migrants were living in sub-standard accommodation in the old town and in packed spaces so the owner could generate more income per head. She acknowledged that the municipality had a responsibility to check places which have been converted from shops to living dwellings and whether living conditions satisfy the minimum standards of public health.

“The last few years, we have taken owners to court but it is a lengthy procedure and not at all effective,” she said.

Migrant support group, KISA, released a statement yesterday slamming the police, municipality and government for the “victimisation of migrants who live in the old town”. The NGO said migrants were being presented as problematic people who “terrorise” residents and passers-by, requiring “imaginative” measures to combat them like yesterday’s Operation “Broom”.

“An operation where people were indiscriminately arrested, taken to police stations in handcuffs based on their colour. An operation which indiscriminately violates house doors and invades bedrooms of people while they are sleeping supposedly to combat ‘crime’,” said KISA.

“We don’t know if the above practices restore a sense of ‘security’ among racists, but with certainty we can say they bring shame upon the dignity of migrants and every trace of security and trust in the state and authorities,” it added.

The support group called on the government, mayor and police to explain how such operations solved the housing problem where migrants live in inhumane conditions while subject to economic exploitation. It also asked how the state could criminalise renting to illegal migrants when the right to shelter is internationally recognised.

KISA argued this measure would lead to further ghettoisation as landlords would simply raise prices, increasing the need to share space. The authorities need to focus more on integration policies and ending exploitation than more policing, said the NGO.

[Christine Toskos]

Tell me if someone was living in your house without permission would you be a little bit upset? If someone said your country is not your country but theirs because they stole if from you would you be a little upset? If someone killed your brother because he was unarmed and protested the injustice of the situation would you be a little upset? So what do you think we feel? Turkish Military has no rights in Cyprus. 1-2-3- get out of our houses and country!!!!!!

[Bad Boy]

Tell me if someone was living in your house without permission would you be a little bit upset? If someone said your country is not your country but theirs because they stole if from you would you be a little upset? If someone killed your brother because he was unarmed and protested the injustice of the situation would you be a little upset? So what do you think we feel? Turkish Military has no rights in Cyprus. 1-2-3- get out of our houses and country!!!!!!

Dont change the topic, come the point of civilization and humanity values of GCs on what you are proud.

I agree that turkish troops should go back to turkey, but after that what should happen to TCs, while they are not comfortable about their new greek speaking masters.

since we know that GCs are already dealing like animals with foreigners, No matter what country, race, color they belong to!

Kindly accept the truth, so we can go for next discussion

[Expatkiwi]

Tell me if someone was living in your house without permission would you be a little bit upset? If someone said your country is not your country but theirs because they stole if from you would you be a little upset? If someone killed your brother because he was unarmed and protested the injustice of the situation would you be a little upset? So what do you think we feel? Turkish Military has no rights in Cyprus. 1-2-3- get out of our houses and country!!!!!!

Dont change the topic, come the point of civilization and humanity values of GCs on what you are proud.

I agree that turkish troops should go back to turkey, but after that what should happen to TCs, while they are not comfortable about their new greek speaking masters.

since we know that GCs are already dealing like animals with foreigners, No matter what country, race, color they belong to!

Kindly accept the truth, so we can go for next discussion

Good one! When Greeks do nasty things, they hide it under a veneer of what they are pleased call "civilized behavior". Greeks are regarded as one of the most intolerantly xenophobic peoples on Earth.

[Piratis]

Tell me if someone was living in your house without permission would you be a little bit upset? If someone said your country is not your country but theirs because they stole if from you would you be a little upset? If someone killed your brother because he was unarmed and protested the injustice of the situation would you be a little upset? So what do you think we feel? Turkish Military has no rights in Cyprus. 1-2-3- get out of our houses and country!!!!!!

Dont change the topic, come the point of civilization and humanity values of GCs on what you are proud.

I agree that turkish troops should go back to turkey, but after that what should happen to TCs, while they are not comfortable about their new greek speaking masters.

since we know that GCs are already dealing like animals with foreigners, No matter what country, race, color they belong to!

Kindly accept the truth, so we can go for next discussion

Good one! When Greeks do nasty things, they hide it under a veneer of what they are pleased call "civilized behavior". Greeks are regarded as one of the most intolerantly xenophobic peoples on Earth.

Those poor people are forced to leave from their countries and seek a better future elsewhere because for centuries they have been robed, enslaved and exploited by Imperialists like you. Even now you don't hestite to bomb their countries and kill thousands of innocent people so you can get your hands on their oil. So it is rather hypocritical for people like you to accuse Cypriots or Greeks on these kind of issues.

Cyprus is yet another victim of your imperialism and the Turkish minority simply the pawns you used to divide our island so you can maintain your troops here and continue to exploit our island. Cyprus is not the only place that fall victim of your usual divide and rule tactics.

I should also remind you that it is the Turks that came to our island in order to impose themselves as our masters, not the other way around. We don't want to be the masters of anybody else, just to democratically rule our own island. The Turkish Cypriots can be equal citizens in this country but as a community they are indeed a minority, just like every other minority that exists in every other country. (e.g. Greeks in Turkey).