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[Nikitas]

"as how it should have done back in 1974 after on a few months of initially intervening." And that is what was expected from a guarantor power. But the Turkish general staff had their own version of the "Megali Idea" which they mixed with a bit of Enosis and Taksim and ruined the lives of a generation of Cypriots.

The specter presented by neo partitionists: a choice between 1963-74 and the TRNC is a false dilemma. These were not the only choices. There are others, as membership of the RoC in the EU proves.

TCs must claim their rights. The only ally they have is the GCs. Without the GCs TCs will be blotted out by the settlers.

[Hermes]

Excellent post, Kibrisli Turk. It's good to read such a clear and honest perspective from a T/C on the situation in the north. It certainly makes a change from the deluded and paranoid ravings of some of your compatriots.

[insan]

Excellent post, Kibrisli Turk. It's good to read such a clear and honest perspective from a T/C on the situation in the north. It certainly makes a change from the deluded and paranoid ravings of some of your compatriots.

Some of his compatriots? Not just a single TC agrees with Kibrisli Türk on this forum and in TC community he even does'nt represent the political stance of socialist TCs that constitute abt %2 of TC people.

Kibrisli Turk is either a so-called TC or a TC looking for his/her own self-interests.

[Hermes]

Excellent post, Kibrisli Turk. It's good to read such a clear and honest perspective from a T/C on the situation in the north. It certainly makes a change from the deluded and paranoid ravings of some of your compatriots.

Some of his compatriots? Not just a single TC agrees with Kibrisli Türk on this forum and in TC community he even does'nt represent the political stance of socialist TCs that constitute abt %2 of TC people.

Thanks for the correction. I should have said the "deluded and paranoid ravings of most of your compatriots". I'm glad you acknowledge the difference.

[insan]

Excellent post, Kibrisli Turk. It's good to read such a clear and honest perspective from a T/C on the situation in the north. It certainly makes a change from the deluded and paranoid ravings of some of your compatriots.

Some of his compatriots? Not just a single TC agrees with Kibrisli Türk on this forum and in TC community he even does'nt represent the political stance of socialist TCs that constitute abt %2 of TC people.

Thanks for the correction. I should have said the "deluded and paranoid ravings of most of your compatriots". I'm glad you acknowledge the difference.

Don't be ridiculous, Hermes. Anyone and anything that suits ur national interests r warmly welcomed; anyone and anything against ur national interests harshly and illiteratly described "deluded and paranoid ravings of most of your compatriots".

[Oracle]

... If our leaders fail to unify the island before next April and Eroglu gets into power, then I believe that either a war is going to break out as we Turkish Cypriots are frustrated or we will be forced to live under the Republic of Turkey, which would be a disaster.

Are you saying that there are TCs who are so frustrated, they are ready and willing to go to war with Turkey?

Hello Kibrisli Turk

I am really interested in the (theoretical) possibility that there may exist a size-able number of TCs who would put the RoC first and foremost, before Turkey, and would even be willing to go to war against their oppressors.

Unless, I may have misunderstood the above where you say "a war is going to break out as we Turkish Cypriots are frustrated"?

I wonder, if the RoC supported such a war whether the TCs would fight, alongside the GCs, against the Turks?

I would really appreciate a reply as this possibility represents a glimmer of hope for the future of TCs ....

[YFred]

Excellent post, Kibrisli Turk. It's good to read such a clear and honest perspective from a T/C on the situation in the north. It certainly makes a change from the deluded and paranoid ravings of some of your compatriots.

Some of his compatriots? Not just a single TC agrees with Kibrisli Türk on this forum and in TC community he even does'nt represent the political stance of socialist TCs that constitute abt %2 of TC people.

Kibrisli Turk is either a so-called TC or a TC looking for his/her own self-interests.

Insan, you must give people the benefit of the doubt. There are some people who believe that despite past evidence. There doesn't have to be a personal gain. I have met a few my self. In some respects I am the same but I can fully understand the fear of TCs who lived from 63 to 74 and respect their wishes. What is really lacking in Cyprus from both sides is understanding tolerance and fears of both sides. I hope both Muhtar T and Muhtar X have that in abundance.

[Hermes]

Excellent post, Kibrisli Turk. It's good to read such a clear and honest perspective from a T/C on the situation in the north. It certainly makes a change from the deluded and paranoid ravings of some of your compatriots.

Some of his compatriots? Not just a single TC agrees with Kibrisli Türk on this forum and in TC community he even does'nt represent the political stance of socialist TCs that constitute abt %2 of TC people.

Thanks for the correction. I should have said the "deluded and paranoid ravings of most of your compatriots". I'm glad you acknowledge the difference.

Don't be ridiculous, Hermes. Anyone and anything that suits ur national interests r warmly welcomed; anyone and anything against ur national interests harshly and illiteratly described "deluded and paranoid ravings of most of your compatriots".

You make my point for me far better than I could. You associate your "national interests" with an occupying army that has led you into isolation, despair and international pariah status. Way to go, pal. At least one T/C is fed up with the lies and propaganda and tells it like it is.

[Paphitis]

... If our leaders fail to unify the island before next April and Eroglu gets into power, then I believe that either a war is going to break out as we Turkish Cypriots are frustrated or we will be forced to live under the Republic of Turkey, which would be a disaster.

Are you saying that there are TCs who are so frustrated, they are ready and willing to go to war with Turkey?

Hello Kibrisli Turk

I am really interested in the (theoretical) possibility that there may exist a size-able number of TCs who would put the RoC first and foremost, before Turkey, and would even be willing to go to war against their oppressors.

Unless, I may have misunderstood the above where you say "a war is going to break out as we Turkish Cypriots are frustrated"?

I wonder if the RoC supported such a war, whether the TCs would fight alongside the GCs, against the Turks?

I would really appreciate a reply as this possibility represents a glimmer of hope for the future of TCs ....

As you can see, there are already some TCs on this forum that are fighting their own war against Turkey and the occupation of Cyprus. KT and Kikapu are just 2 that are fighting their own battle in support of the RoC and a united Cyprus. Umit and Deniz might be 2 more.

And what about your friend, Anna-sh? etc.....

[insan]

Excellent post, Kibrisli Turk. It's good to read such a clear and honest perspective from a T/C on the situation in the north. It certainly makes a change from the deluded and paranoid ravings of some of your compatriots.

Some of his compatriots? Not just a single TC agrees with Kibrisli Türk on this forum and in TC community he even does'nt represent the political stance of socialist TCs that constitute abt %2 of TC people.

Thanks for the correction. I should have said the "deluded and paranoid ravings of most of your compatriots". I'm glad you acknowledge the difference.

Don't be ridiculous, Hermes. Anyone and anything that suits ur national interests r warmly welcomed; anyone and anything against ur national interests harshly and illiteratly described "deluded and paranoid ravings of most of your compatriots".

You make my point for me far better than I could. You associate your "national interests" with an occupying army that has led you into isolation, despair and international pariah status. Way to go, pal. At least one T/C is fed up with the lies and propaganda and tells it like it is.

Have TCs had some 20.000 TC national Guard and 130.000 reservists the sitution would have been the same.. it has nothing to do with Turkish troops stationed in TRNC.

When TCs began struggling against GC domination and their rights in Cyprus; there was no Turkey yet...

U owe the legitimacy of so-called RoC to the extra-ordinary political circumstances especially in Greece and in Mediterennean region. Super Powers granted legitimacy to the so-called Roc, just for the sake of keeping Greece in Nato and cooperating with her for the interests of alliance over Balkans.

Simple as that... but nothing lasts forevers... everything changes when the circumstances change...