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[YFred]

I have never heard VP be soo adamant that we are not getting an inch of our land back ...... well at least he recognises that it is our land .... its at least something ............. solution will befall and we will get our land back ..... in a few hours it will be lunch time and am gonna get my beer and sit back and watch the show unfold.

Europe ain't about to let go of its territory to a bully Turk ..... you just watch

The USA was once belonged to native indians...whats your point? You can have your property rights once we agree a solution based on UN parameters of BBF with political equality of the founding states.

This is not what the UN resolution was agreed on for a settlement in Cyprus, is it VP.??

Was declared by Zarouhen at the start of the talks last year in front of millions...research it...even Kifeas rang the bells of doom and gloom that Christofias had sold the GCs out.

Credible links please or fuck off! Show me the statement of Zarouhen and the promises the EU made to you!!! But give me a signed document plonker

What is the point of that, when their promises is not worth the paper it is written on.

[Paphitis]

Here is some of the President's speech at the UN:

Ladies and Gentlemen, I ask you: Is it not a paradox for a country that is a member of the Security Council not to recognize the Republic of Cyprus, a member state of the United Nations, the European Union and of all international organizations?

Is it not a paradox for a member of the Security Council to maintain occupation troops for 35 years on the territory of another UN member state, and a member state of the European Union?

Is it not a paradox to undermine the unity and the territorial integrity of the Republic of Cyprus by promoting the creation of a second state on the island in violation of Security Council Resolution 541 of 1983 which unanimously condemns the illegal UDI, calling it null and void, and calls on all states to respect the sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of the Republic of Cyprus?

Yes, it is a paradox and it is also illegal. In fact it is an anomaly! Cyprus has never sought nor wishes to have hostile relations with its neighbour, Turkey. But it is our responsibility to defend the independence, territorial integrity and sovereignty of our state.

Nevertheless, I would like from this august body to express my readiness to initiate dialogue with the Turkish leadership, in parallel to our negotiations with the Turkish Cypriot leader, to share ideas about the future, which would greatly enhance the chances of a positive outcome to the negotiations.

Cyprus has consistently supported the accession of Turkey to the European Union, in the belief that the whole adaptation process and Turkey’s eventual membership would benefit our neighbours, our region and us. However, this support is not unconditional. Turkey should fulfil its obligations towards the Republic of Cyprus as well as towards the European Union.

Mr. President,

I would like to state one more time that our Turkish Cypriot compatriots are equal citizens of the Republic of Cyprus, and that I personally will strive consistently for their rights and for finding their rightful place in all organs of the state.

My political roots are in the Progressive Peoples’ Movement of my country which always stood by the side of our Turkish Cypriot compatriots for peace and harmonious co-existence. Nevertheless, the rights of our Turkish Cypriot compatriots cannot be implemented at the expense of the rights of the bigger community, which is the Greek-Cypriot community. There must be mutual respect. I want to assure you that I will spare no effort in order to achieve a balanced and just solution which would restore the rights of the people as a whole.

We have all paid a heavy price - human, political and economic - and continue to pay a heavy price. The profits of lasting peace will be beneficial for the people of Cyprus, of Turkey and for the peoples of our region as a whole.

Real political leaders are not the ones who think of the next election but of the next generation. We have the responsibility to work together to achieve a lasting peace in our region.

I wish to the family of Nations a successful conclusion of the deliberations of the 64th Session of the General Assembly of the United Nations.

I thank you

http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/pio/pio.nsf/A ... endocument

Excellent speech by Christiofias.

Cypriots can feel at ease!

Amazing that when we see transcripts of his actual speech we all applaud him ... it is only when we hear distorted interpretations from Bayrak that we admonish him ...

In future, let's just back our President, because he hasn't put a foot wrong !

The President always has our support, up to a point.

It is never unconditional, because if he does put a foot wrong, then the lynch mob will be out at the next election.

The talks will either make or break him. I hope the talks make him of course, but let's face it, President X was almost a supporter of the Annan Plan, and so many of us have every right to feel quite nervous.

His speech writers need to be congratulated for now, because they have hit the right cords with many so far.

But I am still waiting for a commitment from Russia beyond just empty words....How long will we be waiting for I wonder?

Perhaps the Russians might consider an embargo on Turkey?

His coalition (DIKO and EDEK) partners are happy for now, so maybe Pres X has changed to THEIR way of thinking just to keep the coalition intact.

[wallace]

I have never heard VP be soo adamant that we are not getting an inch of our land back ...... well at least he recognises that it is our land .... its at least something ............. solution will befall and we will get our land back ..... in a few hours it will be lunch time and am gonna get my beer and sit back and watch the show unfold.

Europe ain't about to let go of its territory to a bully Turk ..... you just watch

The USA was once belonged to native indians...whats your point? You can have your property rights once we agree a solution based on UN parameters of BBF with political equality of the founding states.

This is not what the UN resolution was agreed on for a settlement in Cyprus, is it VP.??

Was declared by Zarouhen at the start of the talks last year in front of millions...research it...even Kifeas rang the bells of doom and gloom that Christofias had sold the GCs out.

Credible links please or fuck off! Show me the statement of Zarouhen and the promises the EU made to you!!! But give me a signed document plonker

What is the point of that, when their promises is not worth the paper it is written on.

First show me the papers it is written on and let's than decide if the paper has any value. You plonkers shout about statements and promises and you have not provided jack shit to back all you are allegations. So stop wasting peoples times with your propaganda crap. Looking at al these posts and not getting any written documentation gets us to 1 conclusion! No promises were ever made. Sweet dreams

[wallace]

I have never heard VP be soo adamant that we are not getting an inch of our land back ...... well at least he recognises that it is our land .... its at least something ............. solution will befall and we will get our land back ..... in a few hours it will be lunch time and am gonna get my beer and sit back and watch the show unfold.

Europe ain't about to let go of its territory to a bully Turk ..... you just watch

The USA was once belonged to native indians...whats your point? You can have your property rights once we agree a solution based on UN parameters of BBF with political equality of the founding states.

This is not what the UN resolution was agreed on for a settlement in Cyprus, is it VP.??

Was declared by Zarouhen at the start of the talks last year in front of millions...research it...even Kifeas rang the bells of doom and gloom that Christofias had sold the GCs out.

Credible links please or fuck off! Show me the statement of Zarouhen and the promises the EU made to you!!! But give me a signed document plonker

SO what you are sying is that the UN are liars and we should not trust anything they say.

NO....what I'm saying is.....come up with the documentation. Where do you get these statements and promises from? The Turkish press? Wow....that's what I call credible resources

And why should the Cypriots trust the UN......They still have a couple of resolutions to implement don't they? Ring any bells?

[YFred]

I have never heard VP be soo adamant that we are not getting an inch of our land back ...... well at least he recognises that it is our land .... its at least something ............. solution will befall and we will get our land back ..... in a few hours it will be lunch time and am gonna get my beer and sit back and watch the show unfold.

Europe ain't about to let go of its territory to a bully Turk ..... you just watch

The USA was once belonged to native indians...whats your point? You can have your property rights once we agree a solution based on UN parameters of BBF with political equality of the founding states.

This is not what the UN resolution was agreed on for a settlement in Cyprus, is it VP.??

Was declared by Zarouhen at the start of the talks last year in front of millions...research it...even Kifeas rang the bells of doom and gloom that Christofias had sold the GCs out.

Credible links please or fuck off! Show me the statement of Zarouhen and the promises the EU made to you!!! But give me a signed document plonker

SO what you are sying is that the UN are liars and we should not trust anything they say.

NO....what I'm saying is.....come up with the documentation. Where do you get these statements and promises from? The Turkish press? Wow....that's what I call credible resources

And why should the Cypriots trust the UN......They still have a couple of resolutions to implement don't they? Ring any bells?

When we have the resolution from the UN, it will be in a cylindrical shape with a red ribbon tied around it. You will know what to do with it by then.

In the mean time what you seem unable to comprehend is the simple fact of the dirty trick TPapa played on the EU when promising to negotiate a peace settlement and not recommending it. It is this incident itself that has been the turning point of the Cyprus problem to win the hearts and minds of the International community to the plight of the TCs. It is generally accepted that this will be the last time the GCs will be given a chance to agree on a settlement because the increasing importance of Turkey to the west in general whether it is mid east oil or gas from further away or Iran or even military muscle for what ever purpose they have in mind.

Turn you back on realities and as I’ve said it often enough what it is likely to do, I will not repeat it.

[Christine Toskos]

Anan is a racist. He is a Muslim and did not do his homework. His plan is pro-Turkish. That is not what the Turkish Cypriots want. They want the Turkish armies out of the island. They want to be able to live and work with us. The Greeks want the Turkish troops out of the island. They want to go back to their homes. So, in actually both communities want the same thing. Turkish troops off the island and to be able to live and work where they want. Anan did not get it honey.

[Viewpoint]

Anan is a racist. He is a Muslim and did not do his homework. His plan is pro-Turkish. That is not what the Turkish Cypriots want. They want the Turkish armies out of the island. They want to be able to live and work with us. The Greeks want the Turkish troops out of the island. They want to go back to their homes. So, in actually both communities want the same thing. Turkish troops off the island and to be able to live and work where they want. Anan did not get it honey.

You need help...go see a doctor.

[Christine Toskos]

Anyone who thinks Annan plan is fair needs a brain transplant.

[wallace]

I have never heard VP be soo adamant that we are not getting an inch of our land back ...... well at least he recognises that it is our land .... its at least something ............. solution will befall and we will get our land back ..... in a few hours it will be lunch time and am gonna get my beer and sit back and watch the show unfold.

Europe ain't about to let go of its territory to a bully Turk ..... you just watch

The USA was once belonged to native indians...whats your point? You can have your property rights once we agree a solution based on UN parameters of BBF with political equality of the founding states.

This is not what the UN resolution was agreed on for a settlement in Cyprus, is it VP.??

Was declared by Zarouhen at the start of the talks last year in front of millions...research it...even Kifeas rang the bells of doom and gloom that Christofias had sold the GCs out.

Credible links please or fuck off! Show me the statement of Zarouhen and the promises the EU made to you!!! But give me a signed document plonker

SO what you are sying is that the UN are liars and we should not trust anything they say.

NO....what I'm saying is.....come up with the documentation. Where do you get these statements and promises from? The Turkish press? Wow....that's what I call credible resources

And why should the Cypriots trust the UN......They still have a couple of resolutions to implement don't they? Ring any bells?

When we have the resolution from the UN, it will be in a cylindrical shape with a red ribbon tied around it. You will know what to do with it by then.

In the mean time what you seem unable to comprehend is the simple fact of the dirty trick TPapa played on the EU when promising to negotiate a peace settlement and not recommending it. It is this incident itself that has been the turning point of the Cyprus problem to win the hearts and minds of the International community to the plight of the TCs. It is generally accepted that this will be the last time the GCs will be given a chance to agree on a settlement because the increasing importance of Turkey to the west in general whether it is mid east oil or gas from further away or Iran or even military muscle for what ever purpose they have in mind.

Turn you back on realities and as I’ve said it often enough what it is likely to do, I will not repeat it.

Sure we know what to do with it. Shove it up Turkeys ass!!! TPapa knew exactly what he was doing and he knew very well who he was dealing with. He looked right through your Annan partition plan. Turkey does not recognise any UN resolutions nor does it recognise international court rulings. This all will turn against Turkey one day......not Cyprus. Increasing importance of Turkey to the west????? What importance is that if I may ask? Oil or gas can be transported by ships.....it has been done for years that way! So what importance is that? The only ones that turn their back on realities is people like you and the brainwashed Turks themselfs who are still taught how good they are and that they are the best nation in the world. Why do you think the rest of the world does not recognise your self created state? I know....the rest of the world are the idiots Your wake up call will come soon.....watch my words.

[insan]

I have never heard VP be soo adamant that we are not getting an inch of our land back ...... well at least he recognises that it is our land .... its at least something ............. solution will befall and we will get our land back ..... in a few hours it will be lunch time and am gonna get my beer and sit back and watch the show unfold.

Europe ain't about to let go of its territory to a bully Turk ..... you just watch

The USA was once belonged to native indians...whats your point? You can have your property rights once we agree a solution based on UN parameters of BBF with political equality of the founding states.

This is not what the UN resolution was agreed on for a settlement in Cyprus, is it VP.??

Was declared by Zarouhen at the start of the talks last year in front of millions...research it...even Kifeas rang the bells of doom and gloom that Christofias had sold the GCs out.

Credible links please or fuck off! Show me the statement of Zarouhen and the promises the EU made to you!!! But give me a signed document plonker

SO what you are sying is that the UN are liars and we should not trust anything they say.

NO....what I'm saying is.....come up with the documentation. Where do you get these statements and promises from? The Turkish press? Wow....that's what I call credible resources

And why should the Cypriots trust the UN......They still have a couple of resolutions to implement don't they? Ring any bells?

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Resolution 1376 (2004)1

Cyprus


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1. The Parliamentary Assembly is profoundly disappointed by the failure, following the massive “no” vote by the Greek Cypriot community, of the international community’s efforts to end the division of Cyprus and enable the two Cypriot communities to join the European Union together on 1 May 2004. However, it respects the choice made by the Greek Cypriots and the Turkish Cypriots in separate and simultaneous referenda. It understands that more time may be needed for the Greek Cypriot population to gain confidence and develop trust in the new, more positive attitude of the Turkish Cypriots, and of Turkey.

2. It pays tribute to Mr Kofi Annan, Secretary General of the United Nations, and his colleagues, who have made a tremendous contribution towards achieving a settlement of the Cyprus problem.

3. It pays tribute to the Turkish Cypriots, who supported the Annan Plan by an overwhelming majority, thus opting for a future in Europe. The international community, and in particular the Council of Europe and the European Union, cannot ignore or betray the expressed desire of a majority of Turkish Cypriots for greater openness and should take rapid and appropriate steps to encourage it. The Turkish Cypriots’ international isolation must cease.
4. The Assembly therefore welcomes the support expressed by several European political leaders for financial assistance for the Turkish Cypriots and an easing of the international sanctions against them. The United Nations should also consider whether the resolutions on which the sanctions are based are still justified.

5. The Assembly considers it unfair for the Turkish Cypriot community, which has expressed clear support for a reunited and European Cyprus, to continue to be denied representation in the European political debate. Such continued isolation may help strengthen the positions of those who are opposing a unified Cyprus.

6.The Assembly therefore decides to associate more closely elected representatives of the Turkish Cypriot community in the work of the Parliamentary Assembly and its committees, beyond the framework of Assembly Resolution 1113 (1997) on the situation in Cyprus and integrate them into the Cypriot delegation.


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1. Assembly debate on 29 April 2004 (15th Sitting) (see Doc. 10161, report of the Political Affairs Committee, rapporteur: Mr Eörsi; and Doc. 10164, opinion of the Committee on Legal Affairs and Human Rights, rapporteur: Mr Jurgens).
Text adopted by the Assembly on 29 April 2004 (15th Sitting).

http://assembly.coe.int/Main.asp?link=/ ... ES1376.htm