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[Tim Drayton]

[...] like how it accepted backward, poor and corrupt GREECE in the late 1970s. [...]

Greece acceded to the EU on 1 January 1981.

[YFred]

[...] like how it accepted backward, poor and corrupt GREECE in the late 1970s. [...]

Greece acceded to the EU on 1 January 1981.

Couldn't help noticing that you only challenged one point and not the other three.

[Tim Drayton]

[...] like how it accepted backward, poor and corrupt GREECE in the late 1970s. [...]

Greece acceded to the EU on 1 January 1981.

Couldn't help noticing that you only challenged one point and not the other three.

Well noticed, old fellow. I put it down the advantages conferred on you by the privilege of having attended Akıncılar İlkokulu, or whatever it was called in those days.

[YFred]

[...] like how it accepted backward, poor and corrupt GREECE in the late 1970s. [...]

Greece acceded to the EU on 1 January 1981.

Couldn't help noticing that you only challenged one point and not the other three.

Well noticed, old fellow. I put it down the advantages conferred on you by the privilege of having attended Akıncılar İlkokulu, or whatever it was called in those days.

What ever name it had on the school, it was and will always be Lurucina Ilkokulu and Lurucina Ortaokulu.
Regards

[Paphitis]

Mr H wrote:

Jesus, Piratis, if America and the EU had even an inkling of concern for your so-called solution idea wouldn't you think Turkey would have been FORCED to accept your GC dream Cyprus solution?

Had America and the EU had an inkling of concern for the "trnc", then your poor arses would have been recognized a long time ago!

They don't give a hoot, leaving you out in the cold...

Mr H wrote:

Turkey doesn't mind waiting, it's used to the Double standards, but wait until the EU start begging for new natural resources via Turkey.

I hope not, because you will be waiting forever I'm afraid.....

Paphitis wrote:

America does not appear angry. Just the other day, they were congratulating the RoC on its stance against terrorism and piracy.

Mr H wrote:

Are you joking with the above quote? Of course the U.S is going to say nice things to you, that's called diplomacy - doesn't mean that they agree with all your demands to a Cyprus solution otherwise Christofias wouldn't be feeling the heat, wouldn't have felt pressured to sit around a table with the oh "Puppet" state President of Northern Cyprus as you'd probably put it. Come on man, wake up. You guys are being groomed for a serious hair cut called Northern Cyprus.

Christofias is sitting at the table because he is the only one who is genuinely interested in solving the Cyprus Problem. Turkey is not! And the US understands this, and understand our position that a solution will not discriminate against the island's majority and that all individuals will be EQUAL in every respect.

America agrees with the RoC, because they do not recognize the "trnc", and they accept the illegality of the Turkish invasion.

The "trnc" is like shoveling shit uphill....

Paphitis wrote:

Dream on....This 35 year dream is starting to get boring

Mr H wrote:

If you think it's "Boring" then what the hell do you think the EU and U.S think. I can just imagine the U.S Congress saying to themselves every time they meet regarding the Cyprus issue (which is probably once every decade!) "Cyprus, who, what, where, why......just let them sleep a little longer until the hardliners on the Greek Cypriot side die out and are left with a bunch of youths that will only think about making loads of money with Turkey....and...please don't waste my time with this tiny worthless island". You're right! The Cyprus issue has become rather boring to them and us all, that's why they will swiftly end its date by declaring a two state resolution when the current Federal no-go solution fails in the next few months.

If there is ever going to be a Cyprus Solution, it will be designed and authored by the Cypriot People for the Cypriot People. The US and the EU understand this perfectly well.

If the US wanted to recognize the "trnc" then it would have done so long ago. As it turns out, they view the "trnc" as a liability.

And to have a 2 state solution, you need to own the land you currently occupy. Since all these lands are stolen, then you don't have a leg to stand on and the Cypriot people will NEVER legitimize you plunder over lands they own.

Behold you national anthem....Please stand!





Paphitis wrote:

Then, what happens to Turkey's EU aspirations?

The EU obviously don't believe the problem is solved.

Mr H wrote:

What Turkish EU aspirations? If Turkey really wanted to join the EU it would have done so many times over, thus clearly its waiting for the EU to accept Turkey without forcing it to change, like how it accepted a DIVIDED Island - Cyprus, like how it accepted backward, poor and corrupt GREECE in the late 1970s. Turkey knows the score, and so does the EU. That's why Turkey will never open its ports to the GC ROC under the condition that it represents the "Republic of Cyprus", maybe as the Greek Cypriot Administered ROC or Greek Cyprus (as is being circulated), but never the original ROC.

You seem to forget that the RoC has the final say on whether Turkey will joining the EU or not.

Whether Turkey really does want to become a member or not, is irrelevant to us. We will just veto you in any case, unless there is a solution we the Cypriot people will accept. If there is no solution, then there will be no EU membership for Turkey.

Greece has been a long standing member of the EU, and if you think Greece is backward, then where does that leave Turkey? You should also know that Cyprus achieved EU membership in record time.

Turkey can never become an EU member without the RoC's endorsement.

Mr H wrote:

The EU OBVIOUSLY doesn't give two cents about Cyprus otherwise it would have set sanctions on Turkey a long time ago and not wait until this December, as if they will then. Personally, I would love to see the EU do that - that would be Turkey's meal ticket and evidence that the EU truly is a Christian, racist club. The EU can't even agree on its own future constitution, can't even keep verbal agreements with a 200'000 less Turkish Cypriot population never mind try to hold a country like Turkey to ransom over some VIRTUAL EU membership application. Wake up man.

We aren't worried at all!

If the EU has so many problems then why are you so eager to join?

This would mean you won't be upset when the RoC, Germany or Austria veto your arse.

In fact, a veto is not even required because 8 EU Acquis Communittaire chapters have been frozen.

Mr H wrote:

In conclusion, and this also stretches to Get Real's post as well, the EU will do nothing to Turkey in December besides utter a few VIRBAL warnings, blah blah blah....who listens to warnings ey? therefore, go ahead and destroy this new federal approach being sought vehemently by the two communist Greek and Turkish Cypriot socialists, but be prepared for what will come when Eroglu takes over in April - If the EU allows the Cyprus to drag on until then?

In conclusion, your 35 year delusions are quite boring....

The fact is, we have the RoC and you have nothing, so we are quite happy to plot along and laugh at your isolation and poverty....You guys look so pathetic!

Mr H wrote:

Wake up to "Northern Cyprus" and the GC-ROC. As for the rest of the solution ideas, don't waste your moaning time on this forum battling Turkish Cypriots like me and pick up a hammer and let's see how far you'll get in pulling down the "Cease fire" line. The only thing the ECHR decisions are going to do is to place a few pennies in your pocket by the Turkish government - buy you out.

"North Cyprus" is just occupied land belonging to our recognized RoC....and that is all that matters.

We are just sitting back having a good laugh at you all, because we have a state, and you only have stolen lands....

And we have numerous get out of jail free cards from the UN in the form of UN resolutions, which really leaves Turkey with one option only....annexation!

Mr H wrote:

And, as for a Cyprus solution, there isn't one as it was already written before you were born - in 1954!

I would say it was solved in 1960, when Cyprus became a state. A state we GCs own since your TC arses self banished yourselves into an isolated and unrecognized corner of the island that we still legitimately own...

The game is over Mr H...

[Tim Drayton]

[...] like how it accepted backward, poor and corrupt GREECE in the late 1970s. [...]

Greece acceded to the EU on 1 January 1981.

Couldn't help noticing that you only challenged one point and not the other three.

Well noticed, old fellow. I put it down the advantages conferred on you by the privilege of having attended Akıncılar İlkokulu, or whatever it was called in those days.

What ever name it had on the school, it was and will always be Lurucina Ilkokulu and Lurucina Ortaokulu.
Regards

Never mind, it appears that the same forces who imposed the name Akıncılar on the place have also uprooted most of the population and sent those who didn't go the UK to Lysi (or should that be Akdoğan), so it is all rather academic anyhow.

[zan]

What a lot of wasted time re Bafidis...

Banished ourselves......Do you even know what you are saying....I am glad you are though because it shows, whoever might be listening, ( I am guessing that many have turned off) What little sense your accusations make...

[Paphitis]

What a lot of wasted time re Bafidis...

Banished ourselves......Do you even know what you are saying....I am glad you are though because it shows, whoever might be listening, ( I am guessing that many have turned off) What little sense your accusations make...

Yes...Banished yourselves....you poor things...prisoners in an unrecognised occupied military boot camp on our lands.

Prisoners of Turkey...no state and no future.

Even Ethiopia has a brighter future than the "trnc". They may be poor, but at least they are recognised and co equal to every other nation...

[Tim Drayton]

YFred, I think this will be of interest to you (my apologies if you have already seen it):

http://www.kibrisgazetesi.com/print.php?news=66563

[zan]

What a lot of wasted time re Bafidis...

Banished ourselves......Do you even know what you are saying....I am glad you are though because it shows, whoever might be listening, ( I am guessing that many have turned off) What little sense your accusations make...

Yes...Banished yourselves....you poor things...prisoners in an unrecognised occupied military boot camp on our lands.

Prisoners of Turkey...no state and no future.

Even Ethiopia has a brighter future than the "trnc". They may be poor, but at least they are recognised and co equal to every other nation...

Re gologon.....I will tell you one more time with the hope that it will sink into your head...GHM We would rather be known as the Turks of Cyprus in our own state than have you reduce our rights to nothing in the name of some Greek god of yours....What you have written there is NO threat...It allows us to continue to be who we are and not get lost in the Greek culture that you propose..Simple really.