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Piratis, Nikitas and Get Real,
What you all fail to realise is that The Cyprus issue to Turkey is just a small EU condition
Which was really settled immediately after the Annan Plan.
How so?
The EU seems to disagree!
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You GCs said No and we TCs
Said yes, the EU failed to meet its obligations to remove the promised isolation of North
Cyprus, therefore neither Turkey or the Turkish Cypriots have no confidence that any other
Promise will ultimately be met - and that includes your minority rights!
Agreements to obligations usually come in writing. Can you show us this formal agreement?
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Actually, due to Turkey's current geopolitical position in Many aspects, I wouldn't be surprised
if Turkey itself calls for a halt to its EU aspiration.
France, Germany and Austria would be pleased...Obviously, they don't think Turkey is important enough.
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That would be interesting. In reality boys,
Turkey really doesn't need to do anything on The Cyprus issue as it's already solved, divided
and has been living peacefully since 1974.
Then, what happens to Turkey's EU aspirations?
The EU obviously don't believe the problem is solved.
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As for the ports issue. Turkey, I admit does have an EU obligation to open its ports to
"Cyprus", but we all know that, as the Cyprus issue to the Greek Cypriots is still not
Resolved and pending, Turkey can keep its You-open-your-ports-in-Greek cyprus- and-then-
We-will-open-ours-to-GREEK-Cyprus until the cows come home. Unless Turkey is
Given assurances that the ONLY element to its EU path is the opening of its ports to "Greek
Cyprus", don't ever expect that to materialise in the near future.
Don't expect Turkey to become an EU member any time soon either.
Does it feel good that tiny Cyprus holds Turkey to ransom...so how important do you feel know?
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Thus, the only losers here really is the EU for angering America. Cyprus is an easily
Resolved pawn in the world of EU politics and Greco-Turko politics, where if a few
GCs are eventually sadden with their failed dominated Cyprus state no one will really
Raise an eyebrow at the UN or EU table. Keep dreaming if you really think your voices
Make a difference. I would have thought you would have realised this after 35 years of
Begging for your so-called properties back and the removal of Turkish troops from
Northern Cyprus.
America does not appear angry. Just the other day, they were congratulating the RoC on its stance against terrorism and piracy.
The Americans love us really....
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So, let's all hold hands and face a future in Cyprus of two republic states living happily
Side by side.
Sent by my Blackberry so apologies for any typo errors
Dream on....This 35 year dream is starting to get boring...
Jesus, Piratis, if America and the EU had even an inkling of concern for your so-called solution idea wouldn't you think Turkey would have been FORCED to accept your GC dream Cyprus solution?
Turkey doesn't mind waiting, it's used to the Double standards, but wait until the EU start begging for new natural resources via Turkey.
America does not appear angry. Just the other day, they were congratulating the RoC on its stance against terrorism and piracy.
Are you joking with the above quote? Of course the U.S is going to say nice things to you, that's called diplomacy - doesn't mean that they agree with all your demands to a Cyprus solution otherwise Christofias wouldn't be feeling the heat, wouldn't have felt pressured to sit around a table with the oh "Puppet" state President of Northern Cyprus as you'd probably put it. Come on man, wake up. You guys are being groomed for a serious hair cut called Northern Cyprus.
Dream on....This 35 year dream is starting to get boring
If you think it's "Boring" then what the hell do you think the EU and U.S think. I can just imagine the U.S Congress saying to themselves every time they meet regarding the Cyprus issue (which is probably once every decade!) "Cyprus, who, what, where, why......just let them sleep a little longer until the hardliners on the Greek Cypriot side die out and are left with a bunch of youths that will only think about making loads of money with Turkey....and...please don't waste my time with this tiny worthless island". You're right! The Cyprus issue has become rather boring to them and us all, that's why they will swiftly end its date by declaring a two state resolution when the current Federal no-go solution fails in the next few months.
Then, what happens to Turkey's EU aspirations?
The EU obviously don't believe the problem is solved.
What Turkish EU aspirations? If Turkey really wanted to join the EU it would have done so many times over, thus clearly its waiting for the EU to accept Turkey without forcing it to change, like how it accepted a DIVIDED Island - Cyprus, like how it accepted backward, poor and corrupt GREECE in the late 1970s. Turkey knows the score, and so does the EU. That's why Turkey will never open its ports to the GC ROC under the condition that it represents the "Republic of Cyprus", maybe as the Greek Cypriot Administered ROC or Greek Cyprus (as is being circulated), but never the original ROC.
The EU OBVIOUSLY doesn't give two cents about Cyprus otherwise it would have set sanctions on Turkey a long time ago and not wait until this December, as if they will then. Personally, I would love to see the EU do that - that would be Turkey's meal ticket and evidence that the EU truly is a Christian, racist club. The EU can't even agree on its own future constitution, can't even keep verbal agreements with a 200'000 less Turkish Cypriot population never mind try to hold a country like Turkey to ransom over some
VIRTUAL EU membership application. Wake up man.
In conclusion, and this also stretches to Get Real's post as well, the EU will do nothing to Turkey in December besides utter a few
VIRBAL warnings, blah blah blah....who listens to warnings ey? therefore, go ahead and destroy this new federal approach being sought vehemently by the two communist Greek and Turkish Cypriot socialists, but be prepared for what will come when Eroglu takes over in April - If the EU allows the Cyprus to drag on until then?
Wake up to "Northern Cyprus" and the GC-ROC. As for the rest of the solution ideas, don't waste your moaning time on this forum battling Turkish Cypriots like me and pick up a hammer and let's see how far you'll get in pulling down the "Cease fire" line. The only thing the ECHR decisions are going to do is to place a few pennies in your pocket by the Turkish government - buy you out.
And, as for a Cyprus solution, there isn't one as it was already written before you were born - in 1954!
