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Postby james_mav » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:09 pm

Paphitis wrote:My private life and career is not your concern...

It is when I pay for it, you fat fuck. A private defense contractor...so you're a mercenary?

Have you figured out what sanctimonious means yet, or did you drop out of school before they taught you how to use a dictionary?
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:19 pm

james_mav wrote:
Paphitis wrote:My private life and career is not your concern...

It is when I pay for it, you fat fuck. A private defense contractor...so you're a mercenary?

Have you figured out what sanctimonious means yet, or did you drop out of school before they taught you how to use a dictionary?


Australia ha every right to defend its borders from criminal activity....

Both Australia and the RoC are sacred and are independent nations, and you are preaching that Cyprus gives all this up, and for what?

Also, I thank you for your contributions in my training and development. It cost a lot of money btw. :D Millions in fact!
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Postby Nikitas » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:05 pm

"Afghan boat people"

Hmmm I thought Afghanistan was land locked.
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Postby Nikitas » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:12 pm

There is a TC mythology, reproduced in this thread as well as others, that the Greek Orthodox church was floundering under the Venetians. This is a wonderful way to portray the Ottomans as some kind of quasi liberators.

So gentlemen, where are the libraries of Greek books in Nicosia, written and printed during Ottoman rule? Where are the works of GC music and architecture and grand churches built from 1571 to 1878?

How do you explain that many Greek manuscripts were written and published in Venice both before and after 1571? If the Venetians were such harsh oppressors why did they encourage and promote Greek letters?

Have yo guys been to Venice, have you noticed that the city honors its ties with Greeks?

Where are the great works of art from co-moslems, the Arabs, during the Ottoman occupation, comparable to those that the Arabs created before the conquest?

Fact is tht the Ottomans were mere tax collectors who did not give a damn about the people they conquered. Nothing more.
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:13 pm

Nikitas wrote:"Afghan boat people"

Hmmm I thought Afghanistan was land locked.


They make their way through to Indonesia, where they pay an Indonesian fisherman or people smuggler over $10,000US to make the perilous journey to Australia.

The boats are quite often not sea worthy and come to grief. Hence the accusation that we "kill" boat people in Australia. :lol:

http://www.theistimes.com/3-afghan-boat ... for-burns/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/2485447.stm
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Postby YFred » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:19 pm

Nikitas wrote:There is a TC mythology, reproduced in this thread as well as others, that the Greek Orthodox church was floundering under the Venetians. This is a wonderful way to portray the Ottomans as some kind of quasi liberators.

So gentlemen, where are the libraries of Greek books in Nicosia, written and printed during Ottoman rule? Where are the works of GC music and architecture and grand churches built from 1571 to 1878?

How do you explain that many Greek manuscripts were written and published in Venice both before and after 1571? If the Venetians were such harsh oppressors why did they encourage and promote Greek letters?

Have yo guys been to Venice, have you noticed that the city honors its ties with Greeks?

Where are the great works of art from co-moslems, the Arabs, during the Ottoman occupation, comparable to those that the Arabs created before the conquest?

Fact is tht the Ottomans were mere tax collectors who did not give a damn about the people they conquered. Nothing more.

Isn't that the basis of capitalism today? They were just too advanced for their time.

And people say they never gave anything to nobody!
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Postby Oracle » Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:55 pm

Nikitas wrote:There is a TC mythology, reproduced in this thread as well as others, that the Greek Orthodox church was floundering under the Venetians. This is a wonderful way to portray the Ottomans as some kind of quasi liberators.

So gentlemen, where are the libraries of Greek books in Nicosia, written and printed during Ottoman rule? Where are the works of GC music and architecture and grand churches built from 1571 to 1878?

How do you explain that many Greek manuscripts were written and published in Venice both before and after 1571? If the Venetians were such harsh oppressors why did they encourage and promote Greek letters?

Have yo guys been to Venice, have you noticed that the city honors its ties with Greeks?

Where are the great works of art from co-moslems, the Arabs, during the Ottoman occupation, comparable to those that the Arabs created before the conquest?

Fact is tht the Ottomans were mere tax collectors who did not give a damn about the people they conquered. Nothing more.


Quite true Nikitas.

I posted an article on this some time ago which spelled out how the Venetians spoke Greek on Cyprus and mixed and married with Greeks, who where allowed to administer in high Office etc ... They respected the traditions of the Byzantium and tried to protect this Island against the hordes they saw coming ....
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Postby zan » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:03 pm

Oracle wrote:
Nikitas wrote:There is a TC mythology, reproduced in this thread as well as others, that the Greek Orthodox church was floundering under the Venetians. This is a wonderful way to portray the Ottomans as some kind of quasi liberators.

So gentlemen, where are the libraries of Greek books in Nicosia, written and printed during Ottoman rule? Where are the works of GC music and architecture and grand churches built from 1571 to 1878?

How do you explain that many Greek manuscripts were written and published in Venice both before and after 1571? If the Venetians were such harsh oppressors why did they encourage and promote Greek letters?

Have yo guys been to Venice, have you noticed that the city honors its ties with Greeks?

Where are the great works of art from co-moslems, the Arabs, during the Ottoman occupation, comparable to those that the Arabs created before the conquest?

Fact is tht the Ottomans were mere tax collectors who did not give a damn about the people they conquered. Nothing more.


Quite true Nikitas.

I posted an article on this some time ago which spelled out how the Venetians spoke Greek on Cyprus and mixed and married with Greeks, who where allowed to administer in high Office etc ... They respected the traditions of the Byzantium and tried to protect this Island against the hordes they saw coming ....


Are Greek Letters the same as French letters but with a hole in the end for Greek Settlement purposes???? :lol:
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Postby kurupetos » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:47 pm

YFred wrote:Petos, your wit is good for this early in the morning, but I think the first choice is easier and achievable where’s the second choice is nigh impossible.
So which one are we going for?


I want partition of Turkey. It will certainly ease things up. :wink:
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:45 pm

Oracle wrote:
Nikitas wrote:There is a TC mythology, reproduced in this thread as well as others, that the Greek Orthodox church was floundering under the Venetians. This is a wonderful way to portray the Ottomans as some kind of quasi liberators.

So gentlemen, where are the libraries of Greek books in Nicosia, written and printed during Ottoman rule? Where are the works of GC music and architecture and grand churches built from 1571 to 1878?

How do you explain that many Greek manuscripts were written and published in Venice both before and after 1571? If the Venetians were such harsh oppressors why did they encourage and promote Greek letters?

Have yo guys been to Venice, have you noticed that the city honors its ties with Greeks?

Where are the great works of art from co-moslems, the Arabs, during the Ottoman occupation, comparable to those that the Arabs created before the conquest?

Fact is tht the Ottomans were mere tax collectors who did not give a damn about the people they conquered. Nothing more.


Quite true Nikitas.

I posted an article on this some time ago which spelled out how the Venetians spoke Greek on Cyprus and mixed and married with Greeks, who where allowed to administer in high Office etc ... They respected the traditions of the Byzantium and tried to protect this Island against the hordes they saw coming ....



Nor did the long period of Ottoman rule (1570-1878) change Greek Cypriot culture. The Ottomans tended to administer their multicultural empire with the help of their subject millets, or religious communities. The tolerance of the millet system permitted the Greek Cypriot community to survive, administered for Constantinople by the Archbishop of the Church of Cyprus, who became the community's head, or ethnarch.



Source: U.S. Library of Congress


If Piratis and other zealots claims that the Ottomans object was to slaughter and annihilate , how did the GO Church survive? :lol: By the grace of the Otto's.
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