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[denizaksulu]

I dunno, thought I'd come and see what was going on on CyProb and what do I find? K and F having a good go at each other here and in the other thread we have our GR and our O having a very entertaining duel.

Cyprob at its best.

Wonder what's going on in Chat?

What channel would GR/O be on then?

This thread belongs to Gambling Anonymous. Boring.

Deniz, you must see the good deed I am doing.
I have cured CSK from his gambling habit, No?
And also from his swearing habit.

You taught our or are responsible for Kiks for Kiks swearing, I think!! Normally he is a gent.

Can you help me with my swearing?

I hope you enjoyed your chicken last night.

No he started swearing first and I have not taught him anything. When you realise a problem, it is only a lesson identified. It is only when you change that it becomes a lesson learned.

I would put him in a different category. He is no gent. I would put him in Wolf in sheep’s clothing: lol:

Do you need to raise it or lower it?
He learned me that swearing does not achieve anything. It's best to put your case in a calm and collected manner as possible. The more abusive they get the calmer one needs to be cause it annoys the hell out of the other side.

To this day I did not even realise that I was able to humiliate anybody until Puffidobullo mentioned it. Perhaps I have traits I did not even realise I had. It could have come handy during the TMT days hey?

I think my wife should open a 'Magarina Bulli Restaurant' like they have in Cyprus. Halil took us there, my wife is an expert now.

Bu 'thread' de biz TC ler aleme rezil rüsvay olduk. Olmamalı idik.

No Deniz, Kikapu has stopped questioning and assumes that every TC who is able to do anything must have Haram land. Well here is one +7 that do not. From my posts he should have been able to work out how, but I wasn't about to make it easy for him. I gave insan an answer once why a TC from Lurucina had taken TRNC to court to get his house back and managed to get it back. All he had to do is ask nicely and I would have explained it to him instead of turning his gang against me and calling me and my family everything under the sun. What he did is so wrong.
When he apologises I will explain to him why I am right and he is wrong that all my statements are correct.

He is under the impression that I or my family have done things wrong and I am trying to confess. What a load of bollox.
I have two reasons why I signed up on this forum. One is to meet other decent Cypriot (both GC and TC) and I have met plenty. And the other is to try to get through to our GC friends that while they are trying to punish few guilty TCs, they are actually punishing innocent TCs and turning them against the RoC.

Sorry if it got a bit messy but when you are in a mud, it tends to get a bit dirty. I had plenty of time to learn how to deal with mud, when growing domades in Trahones, Lurucina.

I use Persil what do you use?

My name is Deniz, so Tide or Surf, I am not fussy.

[YFred]

I dunno, thought I'd come and see what was going on on CyProb and what do I find? K and F having a good go at each other here and in the other thread we have our GR and our O having a very entertaining duel.

Cyprob at its best.

Wonder what's going on in Chat?

What channel would GR/O be on then?

This thread belongs to Gambling Anonymous. Boring.

Deniz, you must see the good deed I am doing.
I have cured CSK from his gambling habit, No?
And also from his swearing habit.

You taught our or are responsible for Kiks for Kiks swearing, I think!! Normally he is a gent.

Can you help me with my swearing?

I hope you enjoyed your chicken last night.

No he started swearing first and I have not taught him anything. When you realise a problem, it is only a lesson identified. It is only when you change that it becomes a lesson learned.

I would put him in a different category. He is no gent. I would put him in Wolf in sheep’s clothing: lol:

Do you need to raise it or lower it?
He learned me that swearing does not achieve anything. It's best to put your case in a calm and collected manner as possible. The more abusive they get the calmer one needs to be cause it annoys the hell out of the other side.

To this day I did not even realise that I was able to humiliate anybody until Puffidobullo mentioned it. Perhaps I have traits I did not even realise I had. It could have come handy during the TMT days hey?

I think my wife should open a 'Magarina Bulli Restaurant' like they have in Cyprus. Halil took us there, my wife is an expert now.

Bu 'thread' de biz TC ler aleme rezil rüsvay olduk. Olmamalı idik.

No Deniz, Kikapu has stopped questioning and assumes that every TC who is able to do anything must have Haram land. Well here is one +7 that do not. From my posts he should have been able to work out how, but I wasn't about to make it easy for him. I gave insan an answer once why a TC from Lurucina had taken TRNC to court to get his house back and managed to get it back. All he had to do is ask nicely and I would have explained it to him instead of turning his gang against me and calling me and my family everything under the sun. What he did is so wrong.
When he apologises I will explain to him why I am right and he is wrong that all my statements are correct.

He is under the impression that I or my family have done things wrong and I am trying to confess. What a load of bollox.
I have two reasons why I signed up on this forum. One is to meet other decent Cypriot (both GC and TC) and I have met plenty. And the other is to try to get through to our GC friends that while they are trying to punish few guilty TCs, they are actually punishing innocent TCs and turning them against the RoC.

Sorry if it got a bit messy but when you are in a mud, it tends to get a bit dirty. I had plenty of time to learn how to deal with mud, when growing domades in Trahones, Lurucina.

I use Persil what do you use?

My name is Deniz, so Tide or Surf, I am not fussy.

A bit slow this morning, just got that.

[Kikapu]

Bu 'thread' de biz TC ler aleme rezil rüsvay olduk. Olmamalı idik.

No Deniz, Kikapu has stopped questioning and assumes that every TC who is able to do anything must have Haram land. Well here is one +7 that do not. From my posts he should have been able to work out how, but I wasn't about to make it easy for him. I gave insan an answer once why a TC from Lurucina had taken TRNC to court to get his house back and managed to get it back. All he had to do is ask nicely and I would have explained it to him instead of turning his gang against me and calling me and my family everything under the sun. What he did is so wrong.
When he apologises I will explain to him why I am right and he is wrong that all my statements are correct.

He is under the impression that I or my family have done things wrong and I am trying to confess. What a load of bollox.
I have two reasons why I signed up on this forum. One is to meet other decent Cypriots (both GC and TC) and I have met plenty. And the other is to try to get through to our GC friends that while they are trying to punish few guilty TCs, they are actually punishing innocent TCs and turning them against the RoC.

Sorry if it got a bit messy but when you are in a mud, it tends to get a bit dirty. I had plenty of time to learn how to deal with mud, when growing domades in Trahones, Lurucina.

I use Persil what do you use?
Chin up ol yero. We'll get there. Yavash Yavash as the old saying goes.

Liar YFred, you are not still taking virtual victory laps , are you.?

For someone who has lost his challenge with a counter challenge ( two in fact) by not being able to tell a lie to fool people by swearing on his R.I.P parents grave, because you were afraid of being struck by a lightning perhaps, or worse, end up in hell for dishonouring your R.I.P. parents by swearing lies on their grave. You were tested at the highest level of self consciousness where the battle was between you and your conscience and you couldn't do it. You couldn't betray your parents with a lie, to your credit I may add, so just to get yourself off the hook of your own making by challenging others in what was nothing but a Poker bluff stunt by you going "all in". The only problem with your attempt to win the pot, was that no one was going to stand in your way to expose themselves to win a very small pot by chasing endlessly. What's the use chasing something that's not worth chasing. So you had a pair in your hand and walked away with your "small blind/big blind" winnings. I hope you did not spend it all at once in one go.!

However, my challenge to you could not have given me a higher hand. I had the Royal Flush all the way with this hand. I knew I had you where I wanted you by challenging you to make the swearing on your R.I.P parents grave, because I knew from your past posts of your constant mentioning of your parents, therefore I knew that there was something special there between you and them, so I put all my belief, that if I misjudged you and your family as far as dealing in GC properties, then by you making the swearing, I would not have had any choice but to make the apology as promised, because I just knew you would not take this challenge very lightly and just make a lie just to get an apology from me and a full victory lap all around for you and VP at your dead parent expense. I accepted what ever the outcome may be, therefore, since you were so adamant about your innocence, this was the final moment for me to accept defeat for misjudging you. Well, to my own surprise and shock, you did not make the swearing because your higher conscience would not allow it to betray your parents like that.

Whether you were just trying to be a smart ass for your own ego to push your luck further for you to go for the "kill" with your own challenge with me, or in fact, you have been lying all along to us, you were not able to lie to your R.I.P parents grave. Either way, anyone with an open mind can only read your actions as Guilty as Charged, because there can be no other explanations to your actions. Therefore, I can only view you as a Liar, specially since you had been lying to me from the start of your time here on the forum, starting with Perry Anderson's "Division of Cyprus" article which first you said you were going to read it, then after a while when I asked again you said you had read it, and yet you lacked any knowledge of it's content. Therefore, your track record is very shady when it comes to telling the truth. You can win many challenges from me in the future if you should be fortunate enough to catch me on a bad day, which hasn't happened since the last time which was back in 1971 , but you are free to try it any time. Just don't expect me to roll over for you into submission easily. It's not going to happen.!

So, there you have it Liar Fred, so continue with your virtual victory laps, god knows you need some things to take your mind off for blowing your chance to set the record straight for us all to see had you made that swearing on your R.I.P parents grave. Lost opportunities are sometimes gone for ever. Next time be more thoughtful of the implications of your actions. I was willing to face mine, but you took that chance away from me, so now the ball is in your court. Use it wisely.!


Apologies to all for breaking my own word for responding on this thread still. I'll let it go soon, promise.!

[Kikapu]

Hey Kiks......How often do you go round the streets of the "RoC" with a sandwich board which says..." Famagusta airport is built on stolen TC land so stop using it......It will only serve you to go to hell???? Ever done that mmmmmm Not on this Forum you haven't so when do you do these heroic acts???When does the hooded crime fighter level the stakes with his mighty powers???? When does the all American boy wonder clean up the streets of the "RoC"????

Hey Zan, why don't you get the correct airport you want to talk about first, then we can discuss what ever the HELL you want to talk about. Just don't get your knickers in a twist if not all things are the same or that they all have the same meanings on actions that may seem very similar to you. You know the answers to your own questions and statement better than anyone else, and yet you want to act stupid by asking the above. I can treat you as such if you want, but lets keep it away from that, shall we.!

[YFred]

Bu 'thread' de biz TC ler aleme rezil rüsvay olduk. Olmamalı idik.

No Deniz, Kikapu has stopped questioning and assumes that every TC who is able to do anything must have Haram land. Well here is one +7 that do not. From my posts he should have been able to work out how, but I wasn't about to make it easy for him. I gave insan an answer once why a TC from Lurucina had taken TRNC to court to get his house back and managed to get it back. All he had to do is ask nicely and I would have explained it to him instead of turning his gang against me and calling me and my family everything under the sun. What he did is so wrong.
When he apologises I will explain to him why I am right and he is wrong that all my statements are correct.

He is under the impression that I or my family have done things wrong and I am trying to confess. What a load of bollox.
I have two reasons why I signed up on this forum. One is to meet other decent Cypriots (both GC and TC) and I have met plenty. And the other is to try to get through to our GC friends that while they are trying to punish few guilty TCs, they are actually punishing innocent TCs and turning them against the RoC.

Sorry if it got a bit messy but when you are in a mud, it tends to get a bit dirty. I had plenty of time to learn how to deal with mud, when growing domades in Trahones, Lurucina.

I use Persil what do you use?
Chin up ol yero. We'll get there. Yavash Yavash as the old saying goes.

Liar YFred, you are not still taking virtual victory laps , are you.?

For someone who has lost his challenge with a counter challenge ( two in fact) by not being able to tell a lie to fool people by swearing on his R.I.P parents grave, because you were afraid of being struck by a lightning perhaps, or worse, end up in hell for dishonouring your R.I.P. parents by swearing lies on their grave. You were tested at the highest level of self consciousness where the battle was between you and your conscience and you couldn't do it. You couldn't betray your parents with a lie, to your credit I may add, so just to get yourself off the hook of your own making by challenging others in what was nothing but a Poker bluff stunt by you going "all in". The only problem with your attempt to win the pot, was that no one was going to stand in your way to expose themselves to win a very small pot by chasing endlessly. What's the use chasing something that's not worth chasing. So you had a pair in your hand and walked away with your "small blind/big blind" winnings. I hope you did not spend it all at once in one go.!

However, my challenge to you could not have given me a higher hand. I had the Royal Flush all the way with this hand. I knew I had you where I wanted you by challenging you to make the swearing on your R.I.P parents grave, because I knew from your past posts of your constant mentioning of your parents, therefore I knew that there was something special there between you and them, so I put all my belief, that if I misjudged you and your family as far as dealing in GC properties, then by you making the swearing, I would not have had any choice but to make the apology as promised, because I just knew you would not take this challenge very lightly and just make a lie just to get an apology from me and a full victory lap all around for you and VP at your dead parent expense. I accepted what ever the outcome may be, therefore, since you were so adamant about your innocence, this was the final moment for me to accept defeat for misjudging you. Well, to my own surprise and shock, you did not make the swearing because your higher conscience would not allow it to betray your parents like that.

Whether you were just trying to be a smart ass for your own ego to push your luck further for you to go for the "kill" with your own challenge with me, or in fact, you have been lying all along to us, you were not able to lie to your R.I.P parents grave. Either way, anyone with an open mind can only read your actions as Guilty as Charged, because there can be no other explanations to your actions. Therefore, I can only view you as a Liar, specially since you had been lying to me from the start of your time here on the forum, starting with Perry Anderson's "Division of Cyprus" article which first you said you were going to read it, then after a while when I asked again you said you had read it, and yet you lacked any knowledge of it's content. Therefore, your track record is very shady when it comes to telling the truth. You can win many challenges from me in the future if you should be fortunate enough to catch me on a bad day, which hasn't happened since the last time which was back in 1971 , but you are free to try it any time. Just don't expect me to roll over for you into submission easily. It's not going to happen.!

So, there you have it Liar Fred, so continue with your virtual victory laps, god knows you need some things to take your mind off for blowing your chance to set the record straight for us all to see had you made that swearing on your R.I.P parents grave. Lost opportunities are sometimes gone for ever. Next time be more thoughtful of the implications of your actions. I was willing to face mine, but you took that chance away from me, so now the ball is in your court. Use it wisely.!


Apologies to all for breaking my own word for responding on this thread still. I'll let it go soon, promise.!

Very interesting concept. A liar who cannot lie. Freud would be proud of you. Not sure on which account, whether it would be his theories or his slip?

Pull the other one, the middle one has bells on it dear boy.

[wallace]

Correction for CSK, how does a liar have any conscience? you are talking bollox.

Only a hard dick does not have a conscience, but when it comes to certain things in life and cultures, like putting the fear of GOD into you, now you are afraid to swear on your R.I.P parents grave in hoping they would rot in hell if you are telling lies about you or your family holding onto GC properties in the north, other than the one your sister currently occupies. So, go ahead and prove me wrong that liars do not have a conscience by making the swearing, in which case, you would have already made the swearing by now, so what are you waiting for.? If you are without a conscience, what do you have to lose by making the above swearing.? Quite clearly you are shit scared to do so, because as a TC, I know the meanings of such swearing as you do. This right there should take away any false misconceptions of what my ethnicity is to those who may question it. So go ahead and make my day by making the swearing, so that I can apologise to you as promised, if you can that is.!

This is my very last word on this subject and on this thread, unless you make the swearing as I've described above so that I can come back and apologise to you, otherwise, the hell with you.!

What do I have to loose did you say, to prove you wrong and make you pay for it. Punishment is quite a big part of it.
As far as hell is concerned you can go there if you wish, my place is reserved in the other place where the decent folk go to.

Hey Kiks......How often do you go round the streets of the "RoC" with a sandwich board which says..." Famagusta airport is built on stolen TC land so stop using it......It will only serve you to go to hell???? Ever done that mmmmmm Not on this Forum you haven't so when do you do these heroic acts???When does the hooded crime fighter level the stakes with his mighty powers???? When does the all American boy wonder clean up the streets of the "RoC"????

Famagusta airport??????? Plonker

[Kikapu]

Bu 'thread' de biz TC ler aleme rezil rüsvay olduk. Olmamalı idik.

No Deniz, Kikapu has stopped questioning and assumes that every TC who is able to do anything must have Haram land. Well here is one +7 that do not. From my posts he should have been able to work out how, but I wasn't about to make it easy for him. I gave insan an answer once why a TC from Lurucina had taken TRNC to court to get his house back and managed to get it back. All he had to do is ask nicely and I would have explained it to him instead of turning his gang against me and calling me and my family everything under the sun. What he did is so wrong.
When he apologises I will explain to him why I am right and he is wrong that all my statements are correct.

He is under the impression that I or my family have done things wrong and I am trying to confess. What a load of bollox.
I have two reasons why I signed up on this forum. One is to meet other decent Cypriots (both GC and TC) and I have met plenty. And the other is to try to get through to our GC friends that while they are trying to punish few guilty TCs, they are actually punishing innocent TCs and turning them against the RoC.

Sorry if it got a bit messy but when you are in a mud, it tends to get a bit dirty. I had plenty of time to learn how to deal with mud, when growing domades in Trahones, Lurucina.

I use Persil what do you use?
Chin up ol yero. We'll get there. Yavash Yavash as the old saying goes.

Liar YFred, you are not still taking virtual victory laps , are you.?

For someone who has lost his challenge with a counter challenge ( two in fact) by not being able to tell a lie to fool people by swearing on his R.I.P parents grave, because you were afraid of being struck by a lightning perhaps, or worse, end up in hell for dishonouring your R.I.P. parents by swearing lies on their grave. You were tested at the highest level of self consciousness where the battle was between you and your conscience and you couldn't do it. You couldn't betray your parents with a lie, to your credit I may add, so just to get yourself off the hook of your own making by challenging others in what was nothing but a Poker bluff stunt by you going "all in". The only problem with your attempt to win the pot, was that no one was going to stand in your way to expose themselves to win a very small pot by chasing endlessly. What's the use chasing something that's not worth chasing. So you had a pair in your hand and walked away with your "small blind/big blind" winnings. I hope you did not spend it all at once in one go.!

However, my challenge to you could not have given me a higher hand. I had the Royal Flush all the way with this hand. I knew I had you where I wanted you by challenging you to make the swearing on your R.I.P parents grave, because I knew from your past posts of your constant mentioning of your parents, therefore I knew that there was something special there between you and them, so I put all my belief, that if I misjudged you and your family as far as dealing in GC properties, then by you making the swearing, I would not have had any choice but to make the apology as promised, because I just knew you would not take this challenge very lightly and just make a lie just to get an apology from me and a full victory lap all around for you and VP at your dead parent expense. I accepted what ever the outcome may be, therefore, since you were so adamant about your innocence, this was the final moment for me to accept defeat for misjudging you. Well, to my own surprise and shock, you did not make the swearing because your higher conscience would not allow it to betray your parents like that.

Whether you were just trying to be a smart ass for your own ego to push your luck further for you to go for the "kill" with your own challenge with me, or in fact, you have been lying all along to us, you were not able to lie to your R.I.P parents grave. Either way, anyone with an open mind can only read your actions as Guilty as Charged, because there can be no other explanations to your actions. Therefore, I can only view you as a Liar, specially since you had been lying to me from the start of your time here on the forum, starting with Perry Anderson's "Division of Cyprus" article which first you said you were going to read it, then after a while when I asked again you said you had read it, and yet you lacked any knowledge of it's content. Therefore, your track record is very shady when it comes to telling the truth. You can win many challenges from me in the future if you should be fortunate enough to catch me on a bad day, which hasn't happened since the last time which was back in 1971 , but you are free to try it any time. Just don't expect me to roll over for you into submission easily. It's not going to happen.!

So, there you have it Liar Fred, so continue with your virtual victory laps, god knows you need some things to take your mind off for blowing your chance to set the record straight for us all to see had you made that swearing on your R.I.P parents grave. Lost opportunities are sometimes gone for ever. Next time be more thoughtful of the implications of your actions. I was willing to face mine, but you took that chance away from me, so now the ball is in your court. Use it wisely.!


Apologies to all for breaking my own word for responding on this thread still. I'll let it go soon, promise.!

Very interesting concept. A liar who cannot lie. Freud would be proud of you. Not sure on which account, whether it would be his theories or his slip?

Pull the other one, the middle one has bells on it dear boy.

So go ahead and lie to you parents and prove us wrong, if you think it is that easy, then we will see who will hear bells in their ears from now on. You don't have the balls to do it, and I don't blame you really, because I hate to be in your shoes right now. You just don't want to end up in HELL, that's all, or worse, face your parents in the next world for lying on their grave to save your ass. Instead you keep quiet hoping that it will go away. Well, it won't, not until you take a stance on your convictions. God will judge you from above when the time comes for you to meet him if you were to lie to your parents, but in the meantime, I will judge you from the ground..!

So far, it doesn’t look too good for you down here on the ground I’m afraid.!

[zan]

Hey Kiks......How often do you go round the streets of the "RoC" with a sandwich board which says..." Famagusta airport is built on stolen TC land so stop using it......It will only serve you to go to hell???? Ever done that mmmmmm Not on this Forum you haven't so when do you do these heroic acts???When does the hooded crime fighter level the stakes with his mighty powers???? When does the all American boy wonder clean up the streets of the "RoC"????

Hey Zan, why don't you get the correct airport you want to talk about first, then we can discuss what ever the HELL you want to talk about. Just don't get your knickers in a twist if not all things are the same or that they all have the same meanings on actions that may seem very similar to you. You know the answers to your own questions and statement better than anyone else, and yet you want to act stupid by asking the above. I can treat you as such if you want, but lets keep it away from that, shall we.!

Trying to type and talk on the phone at the same time and I made a typo FFS Just ignore the question and come up with more crap Same goes for Wally


I gave up discussing anything with you mate because it is a one way street.....I have also given up trying to CONVERT you as you have alraedy made up your mind

[Kikapu]

Hey Kiks......How often do you go round the streets of the "RoC" with a sandwich board which says..." Famagusta airport is built on stolen TC land so stop using it......It will only serve you to go to hell???? Ever done that mmmmmm Not on this Forum you haven't so when do you do these heroic acts???When does the hooded crime fighter level the stakes with his mighty powers???? When does the all American boy wonder clean up the streets of the "RoC"????

Hey Zan, why don't you get the correct airport you want to talk about first, then we can discuss what ever the HELL you want to talk about. Just don't get your knickers in a twist if not all things are the same or that they all have the same meanings on actions that may seem very similar to you. You know the answers to your own questions and statement better than anyone else, and yet you want to act stupid by asking the above. I can treat you as such if you want, but lets keep it away from that, shall we.!

Trying to type and talk on the phone at the same time and I made a typo FFS Just ignore the question and come up with more crap Same goes for Wally


I gave up discussing anything with you mate because it is a one way street.....I have also given up trying to CONVERT you as you have alraedy made up your mind

So you mean to say you wasted my time for responding to your post when you had no intentions of ever discussing it to answer your questions and concerns.! Well, that makes a lot of sense.

My mind is always open to anything you want to discuss, Zan, as long as you are respectful of others ideas and how they want their country to develop for the future that allows all people to be safe and equal and be part of a truly democratic society that Cyprus belongs to in the EU. I have offered you my help in the past to build such a system and country for our people in Cyprus, but was refused, just because you want us to become contrary to the western and EU values and take and run away with the north at all costs. As we have found out, that concept is much harder to accomplish than first though of, or that there will ever be chance to get what you once dreamed of becoming a new country in the north. I have to keep my feet firmly on the ground and say things as they are and not what I would like them to be, and for this, I get a lot of abuse, but the reality is the reality and there is no escaping it no matter how much we may try to do so. There is still a chance to build that society I want for our people and country, but I have a very hard time ever seeing your visions ever becoming a reality, since with each passing year it has gotten worse for you, even though the rhetoric’s has gotten louder for such an outcome. We will see at some point as to who had the correct vision and who did not.!

[YFred]

Bu 'thread' de biz TC ler aleme rezil rüsvay olduk. Olmamalı idik.

No Deniz, Kikapu has stopped questioning and assumes that every TC who is able to do anything must have Haram land. Well here is one +7 that do not. From my posts he should have been able to work out how, but I wasn't about to make it easy for him. I gave insan an answer once why a TC from Lurucina had taken TRNC to court to get his house back and managed to get it back. All he had to do is ask nicely and I would have explained it to him instead of turning his gang against me and calling me and my family everything under the sun. What he did is so wrong.
When he apologises I will explain to him why I am right and he is wrong that all my statements are correct.

He is under the impression that I or my family have done things wrong and I am trying to confess. What a load of bollox.
I have two reasons why I signed up on this forum. One is to meet other decent Cypriots (both GC and TC) and I have met plenty. And the other is to try to get through to our GC friends that while they are trying to punish few guilty TCs, they are actually punishing innocent TCs and turning them against the RoC.

Sorry if it got a bit messy but when you are in a mud, it tends to get a bit dirty. I had plenty of time to learn how to deal with mud, when growing domades in Trahones, Lurucina.

I use Persil what do you use?
Chin up ol yero. We'll get there. Yavash Yavash as the old saying goes.

Liar YFred, you are not still taking virtual victory laps , are you.?

For someone who has lost his challenge with a counter challenge ( two in fact) by not being able to tell a lie to fool people by swearing on his R.I.P parents grave, because you were afraid of being struck by a lightning perhaps, or worse, end up in hell for dishonouring your R.I.P. parents by swearing lies on their grave. You were tested at the highest level of self consciousness where the battle was between you and your conscience and you couldn't do it. You couldn't betray your parents with a lie, to your credit I may add, so just to get yourself off the hook of your own making by challenging others in what was nothing but a Poker bluff stunt by you going "all in". The only problem with your attempt to win the pot, was that no one was going to stand in your way to expose themselves to win a very small pot by chasing endlessly. What's the use chasing something that's not worth chasing. So you had a pair in your hand and walked away with your "small blind/big blind" winnings. I hope you did not spend it all at once in one go.!

However, my challenge to you could not have given me a higher hand. I had the Royal Flush all the way with this hand. I knew I had you where I wanted you by challenging you to make the swearing on your R.I.P parents grave, because I knew from your past posts of your constant mentioning of your parents, therefore I knew that there was something special there between you and them, so I put all my belief, that if I misjudged you and your family as far as dealing in GC properties, then by you making the swearing, I would not have had any choice but to make the apology as promised, because I just knew you would not take this challenge very lightly and just make a lie just to get an apology from me and a full victory lap all around for you and VP at your dead parent expense. I accepted what ever the outcome may be, therefore, since you were so adamant about your innocence, this was the final moment for me to accept defeat for misjudging you. Well, to my own surprise and shock, you did not make the swearing because your higher conscience would not allow it to betray your parents like that.

Whether you were just trying to be a smart ass for your own ego to push your luck further for you to go for the "kill" with your own challenge with me, or in fact, you have been lying all along to us, you were not able to lie to your R.I.P parents grave. Either way, anyone with an open mind can only read your actions as Guilty as Charged, because there can be no other explanations to your actions. Therefore, I can only view you as a Liar, specially since you had been lying to me from the start of your time here on the forum, starting with Perry Anderson's "Division of Cyprus" article which first you said you were going to read it, then after a while when I asked again you said you had read it, and yet you lacked any knowledge of it's content. Therefore, your track record is very shady when it comes to telling the truth. You can win many challenges from me in the future if you should be fortunate enough to catch me on a bad day, which hasn't happened since the last time which was back in 1971 , but you are free to try it any time. Just don't expect me to roll over for you into submission easily. It's not going to happen.!

So, there you have it Liar Fred, so continue with your virtual victory laps, god knows you need some things to take your mind off for blowing your chance to set the record straight for us all to see had you made that swearing on your R.I.P parents grave. Lost opportunities are sometimes gone for ever. Next time be more thoughtful of the implications of your actions. I was willing to face mine, but you took that chance away from me, so now the ball is in your court. Use it wisely.!


Apologies to all for breaking my own word for responding on this thread still. I'll let it go soon, promise.!

Very interesting concept. A liar who cannot lie. Freud would be proud of you. Not sure on which account, whether it would be his theories or his slip?

Pull the other one, the middle one has bells on it dear boy.

So go ahead and lie to you parents and prove us wrong, if you think it is that easy, then we will see who will hear bells in their ears from now on. You don't have the balls to do it, and I don't blame you really, because I hate to be in your shoes right now. You just don't want to end up in HELL, that's all, or worse, face your parents in the next world for lying on their grave to save your ass. Instead you keep quiet hoping that it will go away. Well, it won't, not until you take a stance on your convictions. God will judge you from above when the time comes for you to meet him if you were to lie to your parents, but in the meantime, I will judge you from the ground..!

So far, it doesn’t look too good for you down here on the ground I’m afraid.!

Legal sunshine Legal. Sign and see what happens, since you are so confident.