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[zan]

Have we just witnessed Get Real! requesting a little ancient Greek?

Since when have I been that rude about your age.....

Timorous in your old age, huh!


I can read you like a book ....

Oh come on........Don't start congratulating your self on the simplest of things like GR.....Especially after giving me a second larger bite of the apple.....

Less Timorous more observant....Less inclined to take the false bait....

[zmx]

How about Sumerian and Hittite languages containing hundreds of words same or similar with ural-altay Turkic dialects and modern Turkish language contain; thousands of years before Selçuk Turks came to Anatolia?

http://users.cwnet.com/millenia/lang.htm
http://www.sumerian.org/sumlinks.htm






Were Sumerians proto-Turks?

Many sources cite that Hittites were a Hurrian tribe that is mostly believed r the ancestors of Kurds. How come? Hurrian was an ural-altaic language but Kurdish is an indo-european language...

Any ideas abt who were Sumerians, Hurrians, Hittites and who could be their most possible descendants?

the Sumerians werent proto-Turks.

This is the first time I have heard anything about the Sumerian and Hittite languages having ural-altaic words in their languages.

The Hittite language was Indo-European.

The Hurrian language was not Ural-Altaic either.

the Kurds are meant to be descended from the Medes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medes.

the descendants of the Sumerians can be found mostly amongst the modern day southern Iraqi Arab population.

the Hurrians/Hittites became abosrbed into other Anatolian civilizations. Their descendants today can mostly be found amongst Anatolian Turks and Armenians. Some Kurds probably are also descended from them.

[Oracle]

So how can we sum up so far ...

There were a number of diverse groups in what we now know as "Turkey" such as the Greeks, the Hurrians, the Hittites, early Kurds, Armenians, Iranians .... and then at about 1200 CE the Seljuk Turks invaded from the east having been driven out, away from Mongolia ... and they destroyed the populations to near extinction and then replaced them with their own ... only to find that enough of the earlier inhabitants survived into the 20th century to mix up the DNA until a few million were Genocided by Ataturk et al and now we have "modern Turkey" which has stolen a few words from the earlier peoples ...

[insan]

The Hittites and Their Language

Claude Reignier Conder

http://books.google.com.tr/books?id=gZc ... q=&f=false






http://www.bible-history.com/map-israel ... pedia.html

http://www.s155239215.onlinehome.us/tur ... entsEn.htm


SUMERIAN-TÜRKIC LEXICAL CONVERGENCES

Sumerian words
Karachaevo - Balkarian words

Abame elder Appa grandfather, grandmother
Alty six Alty six
Az little, few Az little, few
Aur weight Auur weight
Baba ancestor Baba ancestor
Buz to break Buz to break
Char circle Charkh wheel
Chibin fly (n) Chibin fly (n)
Cholpan star Cholpan star (Venus)
Daim continously Dayim continously
Ed come out Eт pass (v)
Egech sister Egech sister
El death El to die
Er warrior Er man
Eshik door Eshik door
Ez self Ez self
Gaba breast Gabara breastwarmer, bra
Gag to thrust K'ak to thrust
Guruvash servant Karauash servant, slave girl
Jau enemy Jau enemy
Jer place, ground Jer place, ground
Ikki two Eki two
Irik valuh (?) Irik valuh (?)
Kadau lock (n) K'adau lock (n)
Kal to remain K'al to remain
Kan blood Kan blood
Koru to guard K'oruu to guard
Kush bird K'ush bird
Kur to create Kur to build
Küre to row Küre to row
Kyz girl K'yz girl
Me I, me Men I, me
Mu he Bu he
Ne what Ne what
Or to press Or harvest (v.and n.)
Ru to hammer Ur to hammer
San number San number
Sana to count
Sen you Sen you
Sig kick Sok to beat
Süz to filter Süz to filter
Ush three Uch three
Ud fire Ot fire
Uzuk long Uzun long
Tu to give birth Tuu to give birth
Tud to be born T uudu to be born
Tush to sit down, to go down Tüsh to descend
Uat to break Uat to break
Üz to tear Üz to tear
Ul clan Ul son, descendant
Yaryk light (adj) Yaryk light (adj)
Yarym half Yarym half
Yaz to write Yaz to write
Yol road Yol road
Yün wool Yün wool
Yyr song Yyr song


http://www.s155239215.onlinehome.us/tur ... uageEn.htm

[Oracle]

Insan your thing's too long ... it's stretching everything!

[Nikitas]

Now I am really confused. The above points to the Hittites passing their language to the Turks. Who taught the Kazaks to speak Turkish? The Hittites moved east?

[insan]

Now I am really confused. The above points to the Hittites passing their language to the Turks. Who taught the Kazaks to speak Turkish? The Hittites moved east?

Nikitas, these issues that date back some 5-6 thousands of years backwards r too complicated and it's not easy to sum up briefly. You need to click on the links and take a look. Then I'm sure u will find it interesting to read the whole text. When u read the articles and scientific researches; u will have a better idea what's what.

[Christine Toskos]

Now the Turks think they are Sumerians? What a laugh. Turks get real you are nomads of Turkmenistan. Barbarians no culture. No history. Stop stealing other people's culture and claim it as your own. This just proves that Turkey's educational system sucks.

[Jimski999]

Insan

[Jimski999]

Insan
You can quote all you want about Turkish Kazakh relations and no doubt on a governmental level you may be correct but I'm talking about the ordinary man/women in the street. Several major Turkish companies had to pull their people out of Kazakstan as they couldn't guarrentee their safety. There have been several major riots against the Turks. The pictures on Turkish TV news wasn't a movie; in fact I was there and saw the riots with my own eyes. I witnessed some good decent Turkish men badly beaten and also some good, decent Kazakh people hurt trying to protect them so I'm speaking from what I've seen, not from what I've read.