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Postby insan » Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:51 pm

How about Sumerian and Hittite languages containing hundreds of words same or similar with ural-altay Turkic dialects and modern Turkish language contain; thousands of years before Selçuk Turks came to Anatolia?

http://users.cwnet.com/millenia/lang.htm
http://www.sumerian.org/sumlinks.htm

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Were Sumerians proto-Turks?

Many sources cite that Hittites were a Hurrian tribe that is mostly believed r the ancestors of Kurds. How come? Hurrian was an ural-altaic language but Kurdish is an indo-european language...

Any ideas abt who were Sumerians, Hurrians, Hittites and who could be their most possible descendants?
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Postby Tim Drayton » Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:04 pm

The Hittites are generally believed to have been Indo-Europeans, aren't they?
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Postby insan » Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:43 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:The Hittites are generally believed to have been Indo-Europeans, aren't they?


That was a claim(1915) of Czech linguist based on two Babylonic, Germanic words. Urla-Altaic Turkish dialects and modern Turkish contain hundreds of words same or similar to Hittite words.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:56 pm

Conan the Barbarian was meant to be a Sumerian! :lol:
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Postby YFred » Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:58 pm

insan wrote:How about Sumerian and Hittite languages containing hundreds of words same or similar with ural-altay Turkic dialects and modern Turkish language contain; thousands of years before Selçuk Turks came to Anatolia?

http://users.cwnet.com/millenia/lang.htm
http://www.sumerian.org/sumlinks.htm

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Were Sumerians proto-Turks?

Many sources cite that Hittites were a Hurrian tribe that is mostly believed r the ancestors of Kurds. How come? Hurrian was an ural-altaic language but Kurdish is an indo-european language...

Any ideas abt who were Sumerians, Hurrians, Hittites and who could be their most possible descendants?

Insan, did these names exist as they are on the map at that time?
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:58 pm

Has Oracle accepted her Slavic-Ottoman descend yet? :)
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Postby YFred » Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:00 pm

Get Real! wrote:Has Oracle accepted her Slavic-Ottoman descend yet? :)

You are not suggesting for one moment that she is not a pure Cypriot Hellene I hope, because she'll have your head off, be warned.
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Postby Tim Drayton » Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:12 pm

insan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:The Hittites are generally believed to have been Indo-Europeans, aren't they?


That was a claim(1915) of Czech linguist based on two Babylonic, Germanic words. Urla-Altaic Turkish dialects and modern Turkish contain hundreds of words same or similar to Hittite words.


I think the claim is based on a little more evidence than that but relating Hittite to other ancient Indo-European languages has apparently proved quite problematic. Some scholars have claimed that Hittite belongs to the Ural-Altaic group - although many linguists dispute that such a family exists at all. I don't have enough information or knowledge to give an opinion.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:14 pm

Where I said "descend" please read "descent"! :oops:

Mind you, it may have the same meaning for Oracle...
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Postby Oracle » Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:16 pm

insan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:The Hittites are generally believed to have been Indo-Europeans, aren't they?


That was a claim(1915) of Czech linguist based on two Babylonic, Germanic words. Urla-Altaic Turkish dialects and modern Turkish contain hundreds of words same or similar to Hittite words.


It depends when those words were adopted into the language. As you say "modern Turkish" contains a few hundred same/similar words. Sounds like they were a recent introduction and maybe via another neighbour.

BTW if you can list those words and their translation, perhaps there may be a clue as to why/how they came into the language. For example the few hundred French words, in English, have a food-bias introduced by the Normans. :D The several hundred (thousands?) of Greek words in the English language were introduced during for the Scientific "revolution" where new words are required speedily to describe discoveries.
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