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[YFred]

[...] Just read what Tim told little cira and it'll cure all bad feelings.

Back that up with the URL or take back that baseless accusation, YFreddo.

Did you not sat to her "Ziligurti chikarasin be ciracik"?
Have I got it wrong, If I did, I must apologise Tim. I’ll do it in TC it sounds better.


Ozurlerimi fishgirtiyorum.

[YFred]

Turkey has successfully made the Turkish Cypriots feel inferior not only to us, The Greeks who are higher class, but to the entire world. The Turkish Cypriots are the door mats of Turkey. Turkey tells them to jump and they say how high!

Turkish Cypriots fight against your oppressor the Turkish army and government.

Partition Turkey not Cyprus.

It is blatantly obvious who is and who is not the boss. Would you choose to loose 500,000,000 a year out of choice?
If you can pay me that kind of money, you can be my boss any time.

[Tim Drayton]

[...] Just read what Tim told little cira and it'll cure all bad feelings.

Back that up with the URL or take back that baseless accusation, YFreddo.

Did you not sat to her "Ziligurti chikarasin be ciracik"?
Have I got it wrong, If I did, I must apologise Tim. I’ll do it in TC it sounds better.


Ozurlerimi fishgirtiyorum.

We've just got your word for that now, haven't we, you cunning little şillo?

[YFred]

[...] Just read what Tim told little cira and it'll cure all bad feelings.

Back that up with the URL or take back that baseless accusation, YFreddo.

Did you not sat to her "Ziligurti chikarasin be ciracik"?
Have I got it wrong, If I did, I must apologise Tim. I’ll do it in TC it sounds better.


Ozurlerimi fishgirtiyorum.

We've just got your word for that now, haven't we, you cunning little şillo?

Tim, I am shocked. I thought in one of your posts some time ago you claimed you did'n know any greek. I am not calling tou psefdi or anything, just when did it change? Have you been going to GC night school?

[YFred]

Hello MR YFred and Mr Isan
There were three major riots when I was there and the last towards the end of 2007 involved several thousand Construction workers; not a fight between a few people. The reasons were manyfold though basically the Kazakhs (who by the way are a very proud race would never refer to themselves as Kazakh Turks and if I called my wife that she would most probably divorce me) believed the Turks were coming to their country and treating them as if they were Country Bumpkins or serfs. The unrest did spread to other towns and the army was called in to calm things down.
The President of Kazakhstan is very astute; he has built a completley new capital Astana which is located in central Kazakhstan as it was felt the old capital Almaty was too close to the Chinese border and the thought of Chinese expansionism is what frightens them and that is why they will always stay aligned with Russia and Turkey won't get a look in.

Well Turks do that to TCs too they call us greeks. But we don't mind and call them Gacos. So its a bit of banter, but rioting must have other reasons. Somebody is encouraging it for what ever gain they have and using the usual tool of manipulating prejudices. What's new?

This is what illiterate Turks and illiterate TCs do, not all Turks and TCs do.

Sort of you are right but even the Literate Turks although may not be so explicit, they do look down on TCs. Two of my brothers went to Uni in Turkey and that was their experience.

U r confusing the literates with so-called literates, then re YFreddo. Even a shepherd can be more literate than a so-called literate...

Hahahaha ... Turks discussing which Turk is more literate ... hahahhaah

U liked it eh? Join us if u wish.

No Insan don't you dare, you may wish to go insane but I need my sanity. I am not giving it up.

YFreddo... bro... u have gone way too much hyperactive recently... I remember ur early days here; u were more sweet-tempered... u need a nice holiday, re YFreddo.

You are right. I shall mellow down. I am thinking of visiting Turkey for the first time in oct/nov. I'll go to Ayasofya Cami in Istanbul and light a candle for the betterment of the whole world.

[Tim Drayton]

[...] Just read what Tim told little cira and it'll cure all bad feelings.

Back that up with the URL or take back that baseless accusation, YFreddo.

Did you not sat to her "Ziligurti chikarasin be ciracik"?
Have I got it wrong, If I did, I must apologise Tim. I’ll do it in TC it sounds better.


Ozurlerimi fishgirtiyorum.

We've just got your word for that now, haven't we, you cunning little şillo?

Tim, I am shocked. I thought in one of your posts some time ago you claimed you did'n know any greek. I am not calling tou psefdi or anything, just when did it change? Have you been going to GC night school?

In my book, the word 'şillo' is a bona fide Gıbrısca word. Προσπαθώ να μαθώ Ελληνικά.

[insan]

Just a little clarification on what I wrote yesterday; The Kazakhs are a Turkic’ tribe; which doesn’t make them Turkish just as the English are a Germanic tribe and you wouldn’t call them Germans would you? The Seljuk Turks come from an area on the borders of Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan and they still populate this area.
In the Biography of Genghis Khan it tells how his armies drove the Seljuk Turks westwards into the Caucasus and from this the Seljuk’s started moving into Anatolia. The pursuing southern Mongol Army was eventually stopped by the Marmalukes and they retreated into present day Iran, where descendents of this army can be found today. My Kazakh friends inform me that prior to the Mongol invasion that the Kazakh tribes were Caucasian so hopefully that information will stop Deniz looking in the mirror.
Other interesting facts appear in the book “Constantinople: The Last Great Siege of 1453” by Roger Crowley were it states that when the Seljuk Turks entered Anatolia; due to lack of numbers they had to assimilate other ethnic groups into their tribe to have enough soldiers to conquer Anatolia. Another interesting fact was that the Sultan of the Ottomans (was it Memhet II ?) at the time was to all intents and purposes Serbian so it appears there is a bit of an ethnic mix over in Turkey.
Tim; just to clarify. I may have been lucky but in the many years I’ve spent in Kazakhstan I’ve never felt threatened and found Almaty and Astana very cosmopolitan. My wife comes from the very south of the country and even though it is a relatively small town where she is from I have always been welcomed with friendliness and kindness. Like anywhere there are dangers though a little common sense usually keeps you out of trouble.

Turkic peoples
The Turkic peoples are a group of peoples residing in northern, central and western Eurasia who speak languages belonging to the Turkic language family. These peoples share, to varying degrees, certain cultural traits and historical backgrounds. The term Turkic thus represents a broad, ethno-linguistic group of people and includes existing cultures such as the Kazakhs, Kyrgyz and Turkish people, as well as historical societies such as the Seljuq and Timurid. Although usually referring to the citizens of Turkey, the word Turks may also be used loosely to refer to all Turkic peoples. The adjective Turkish, on the other hand, usually specifically refers to the Turkish language, the citizens of Turkey, or Turkish-speaking people of Turkish ethnicity.

http://www.babylon.com/definition/Turkic_people/English

Jimski, please conclude what's ur point...

- Have Seljuk, Ottoman Turks and Turks of Turkey not got any degree of common ethnicity with Kazakhs? Is it really just a few dozens of similar words as u claimed?

- Kazakhs and all other ethnic groups r very civilized, literate and Turks of Turkey r uncivlized, barbarian and illiterate?

[Tim Drayton]

Tim; just to clarify. I may have been lucky but in the many years I’ve spent in Kazakhstan I’ve never felt threatened and found Almaty and Astana very cosmopolitan. My wife comes from the very south of the country and even though it is a relatively small town where she is from I have always been welcomed with friendliness and kindness. Like anywhere there are dangers though a little common sense usually keeps you out of trouble.

Interesting. Kazakhstan is a large place. Perhaps this chap I knew just happened to be located in some lawless backwater. I know my mother, who is in her late seventies, went for a holiday in Uzbekistan last year and came back with positive impressions, and certainly did not feel threatened at any time. I can't imagine that Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan are that different.

[YFred]

[...] Just read what Tim told little cira and it'll cure all bad feelings.

Back that up with the URL or take back that baseless accusation, YFreddo.

Did you not sat to her "Ziligurti chikarasin be ciracik"?
Have I got it wrong, If I did, I must apologise Tim. I’ll do it in TC it sounds better.


Ozurlerimi fishgirtiyorum.

We've just got your word for that now, haven't we, you cunning little şillo?

Tim, I am shocked. I thought in one of your posts some time ago you claimed you did'n know any greek. I am not calling tou psefdi or anything, just when did it change? Have you been going to GC night school?

In my book, the word 'şillo' is a bona fide Gıbrısca word. Προσπαθώ να μαθώ Ελληνικά.

You must get the grammar right. Either I have tried or I am trying, but not I try. Unless Google got it wrong cause I can't read greek letters and I can't be bother to learn them. If the greeks have any sense they would use the modern alphabet like the turks.

[insan]

Hello MR YFred and Mr Isan
There were three major riots when I was there and the last towards the end of 2007 involved several thousand Construction workers; not a fight between a few people. The reasons were manyfold though basically the Kazakhs (who by the way are a very proud race would never refer to themselves as Kazakh Turks and if I called my wife that she would most probably divorce me) believed the Turks were coming to their country and treating them as if they were Country Bumpkins or serfs. The unrest did spread to other towns and the army was called in to calm things down.
The President of Kazakhstan is very astute; he has built a completley new capital Astana which is located in central Kazakhstan as it was felt the old capital Almaty was too close to the Chinese border and the thought of Chinese expansionism is what frightens them and that is why they will always stay aligned with Russia and Turkey won't get a look in.

Well Turks do that to TCs too they call us greeks. But we don't mind and call them Gacos. So its a bit of banter, but rioting must have other reasons. Somebody is encouraging it for what ever gain they have and using the usual tool of manipulating prejudices. What's new?

This is what illiterate Turks and illiterate TCs do, not all Turks and TCs do.

Sort of you are right but even the Literate Turks although may not be so explicit, they do look down on TCs. Two of my brothers went to Uni in Turkey and that was their experience.

U r confusing the literates with so-called literates, then re YFreddo. Even a shepherd can be more literate than a so-called literate...

Hahahaha ... Turks discussing which Turk is more literate ... hahahhaah

U liked it eh? Join us if u wish.

No Insan don't you dare, you may wish to go insane but I need my sanity. I am not giving it up.

YFreddo... bro... u have gone way too much hyperactive recently... I remember ur early days here; u were more sweet-tempered... u need a nice holiday, re YFreddo.

You are right. I shall mellow down. I am thinking of visiting Turkey for the first time in oct/nov. I'll go to Ayasofya Cami in Istanbul and light a candle for the betterment of the whole world.

Happy to hear that... don't forget to take a tour from Sultanahmet to eminönü, karaköy, taksim, maçka, nişantaşı, levent, etiler, rumelihisarı, bebek, sarıyer, üsküdar, çamlıca, bağdat caddesi, kadıköy, beşiktaş. Have a nice holiday.