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[intermoon]

Are you sick or what Plonker because from where I'm sitting you appear to be perversely obsessed and filled with hatred for the West.

I'm "filled with hatred" for ALL war criminals, but it just so happens that 99.99% of war crimes are being committed by the US, UK, and Israel.

If Muslims fight for their freedom, they are called terrorists but if US,UK and Israel occupied others lands and kill 100's of thousands innocent people inclding women and children, they lable it "War against Terrorism"

isn't it double standards?

When Hitler cicked out jews from germany, arabs welcome them and provided them land to live and today jews have cicked palestinins out of their homes and when todsy they are fighting to get their homes back, Israel call them terrorists. see the map of Israel before 1947 and today.

Intermoon,

I have a simple yes or no question for you:

Is the Earth the same shape as an ostrich egg?

The simple answer to your question is that The shape of an ostrich-egg resembles the geo-spherical shape of the earth.

Keep in mind that the Quran was reveled when people believed that the earth was flat. Let me remind you that the Quran is not the book of science but the book of signs(Ayaats). There are more than 6000 Sings(Ayaat) in the Quran in which more than 1000 speak about Science.


Refer to my post below


SHAPE OF THE EARTH IS SPHERICAL

In early times, people believed that the earth was flat. For centuries, men were afraid to venture out too far, for fear of falling off the edge! Sir Francis Drake was the first person who proved that the earth is spherical when he sailed around it in 1597.
Consider the following Qur’anic verse regarding the alternation of day and night:

“Seest thou not that Allah merges Night into Day and He merges Day into Night?” [Al-Qur’an 31:29]

Merging here means that the night slowly and gradually changes to day and vice versa. This phenomenon can only take place if the earth is spherical. If the earth was flat, there would have been a sudden change from night to day and from day to night.
The following verse also alludes to the spherical shape of the earth:

“He created the heavens and the earth in true (proportions): He makes the Night overlap the Day, and the Day overlap the Night.” [Al-Qur’an 39:5]

The Arabic word used here is Kawwara meaning ‘to overlap’ or ‘to coil’– the way a turban is wound around the head. The overlapping or coiling of the day and night can only take place if the earth is spherical.
The earth is not exactly round like a ball, but geo-spherical, i.e. it is flattened at the poles. The following verse contains a description of the earth’s shape:

“And the earth, moreover, hath He made egg shaped.” [Al-Qur’an 79:30]

The Arabic word for egg here is dahaahaa1 which means an ostrich-egg. The shape of an ostrich-egg resembles the geo-spherical shape of the earth. Thus the Qur’an correctly describes the shape of the earth, though the prevalent notion when the Qur’an was revealed was that the earth was flat.
Who could have mentioned this in Qur’an 1400 Years ago?

I'll make it easier for you.

Yes or no, does the shape of the earth resemble the shape of an ostrich egg which is quite a specific shape?

The major problem I have is that your Allah, in his infinite wisdom couldn't even describle the shape of his creation correctly to his "prophet", this why the quran is invalid.

YES, the shape of an ostrich-egg resembles the geo-spherical shape of the earth.

Quran is not invalid just because you are taking the meaning literally the way you want to prove Quran wrong. Allah almighty described in the best way people could understand in that time and also in the time to come easily. The Quran was not revealed only for scientists to understand but also for common people and for all times. It perfectly makes sense and you should understand the Quran in full context.

Your refusal to accept basic FACTS is indicative of your closed and brainwashed mind.

The Earth is an oblate spheriod and an ostrich egg is its geometric opposite, a prolate spheroid.

Although the Earth is technically an oblate spheriod it is remarkably and almost a perfect sphere with 3% deviation along its axis.

Now had it been described as a ball or sphere in the quran this would have been far more factually correct than the incorrect description of an ostrich egg.

Now are you really telling me that even in those times, it was difficult to describe to the people of the time, that the shape of the Earth resembles a ball or as spherical or a flattened ball?

You may as well face the fact that the quran is wrong on this count and inaccurate - but I know your brainwashed mind wont allow you to.

Arabic is so eloquent language in which some time one word got several meanings. I am not an Arab nor Arabic is my native language therefore we must check and find the right meanings.

Scientists have proven that the earth have gone through several stages and shapes. Allah Almighty, by His Divine Wisdom and Mercy, chose to speak in the language of notions so that the right interpretation would slowly and surely be discovered by man as man keeps developing in knowledge and technology.

Ample vocabularies from dictionaries regarding "Dah" and its circular shape and activities:

In the following ample Arabic and English vocabularies below, it is clear that the Arabic word "Dah" refers to:
1- An egg or spherical shape.
2- A squatted, dumpy, pushed down or pressed spherical object.
3- A circular motion.

I don’t think you would like me to post a long answer but if you are interested to know more about Earth shape in The Quran, visit the below link. you and me can make mistake to explain or to understand but Almigty God cannot make mistake.

http://www.answering-christianity.com/e ... _earth.htm

http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/ ... tists.html

[Me Ed]

Are you sick or what Plonker because from where I'm sitting you appear to be perversely obsessed and filled with hatred for the West.

I'm "filled with hatred" for ALL war criminals, but it just so happens that 99.99% of war crimes are being committed by the US, UK, and Israel.

If Muslims fight for their freedom, they are called terrorists but if US,UK and Israel occupied others lands and kill 100's of thousands innocent people inclding women and children, they lable it "War against Terrorism"

isn't it double standards?

When Hitler cicked out jews from germany, arabs welcome them and provided them land to live and today jews have cicked palestinins out of their homes and when todsy they are fighting to get their homes back, Israel call them terrorists. see the map of Israel before 1947 and today.

Intermoon,

I have a simple yes or no question for you:

Is the Earth the same shape as an ostrich egg?

The simple answer to your question is that The shape of an ostrich-egg resembles the geo-spherical shape of the earth.

Keep in mind that the Quran was reveled when people believed that the earth was flat. Let me remind you that the Quran is not the book of science but the book of signs(Ayaats). There are more than 6000 Sings(Ayaat) in the Quran in which more than 1000 speak about Science.


Refer to my post below


SHAPE OF THE EARTH IS SPHERICAL

In early times, people believed that the earth was flat. For centuries, men were afraid to venture out too far, for fear of falling off the edge! Sir Francis Drake was the first person who proved that the earth is spherical when he sailed around it in 1597.
Consider the following Qur’anic verse regarding the alternation of day and night:

“Seest thou not that Allah merges Night into Day and He merges Day into Night?” [Al-Qur’an 31:29]

Merging here means that the night slowly and gradually changes to day and vice versa. This phenomenon can only take place if the earth is spherical. If the earth was flat, there would have been a sudden change from night to day and from day to night.
The following verse also alludes to the spherical shape of the earth:

“He created the heavens and the earth in true (proportions): He makes the Night overlap the Day, and the Day overlap the Night.” [Al-Qur’an 39:5]

The Arabic word used here is Kawwara meaning ‘to overlap’ or ‘to coil’– the way a turban is wound around the head. The overlapping or coiling of the day and night can only take place if the earth is spherical.
The earth is not exactly round like a ball, but geo-spherical, i.e. it is flattened at the poles. The following verse contains a description of the earth’s shape:

“And the earth, moreover, hath He made egg shaped.” [Al-Qur’an 79:30]

The Arabic word for egg here is dahaahaa1 which means an ostrich-egg. The shape of an ostrich-egg resembles the geo-spherical shape of the earth. Thus the Qur’an correctly describes the shape of the earth, though the prevalent notion when the Qur’an was revealed was that the earth was flat.
Who could have mentioned this in Qur’an 1400 Years ago?

I'll make it easier for you.

Yes or no, does the shape of the earth resemble the shape of an ostrich egg which is quite a specific shape?

The major problem I have is that your Allah, in his infinite wisdom couldn't even describle the shape of his creation correctly to his "prophet", this why the quran is invalid.

YES, the shape of an ostrich-egg resembles the geo-spherical shape of the earth.

Quran is not invalid just because you are taking the meaning literally the way you want to prove Quran wrong. Allah almighty described in the best way people could understand in that time and also in the time to come easily. The Quran was not revealed only for scientists to understand but also for common people and for all times. It perfectly makes sense and you should understand the Quran in full context.

Your refusal to accept basic FACTS is indicative of your closed and brainwashed mind.

The Earth is an oblate spheriod and an ostrich egg is its geometric opposite, a prolate spheroid.

Although the Earth is technically an oblate spheriod it is remarkably and almost a perfect sphere with 3% deviation along its axis.

Now had it been described as a ball or sphere in the quran this would have been far more factually correct than the incorrect description of an ostrich egg.

Now are you really telling me that even in those times, it was difficult to describe to the people of the time, that the shape of the Earth resembles a ball or as spherical or a flattened ball?

You may as well face the fact that the quran is wrong on this count and inaccurate - but I know your brainwashed mind wont allow you to.

Arabic is so eloquent language in which some time one word got several meanings. I am not an Arab nor Arabic is my native language therefore we must check and find the right meanings.

Scientists have proven that the earth have gone through several stages and shapes. Allah Almighty, by His Divine Wisdom and Mercy, chose to speak in the language of notions so that the right interpretation would slowly and surely be discovered by man as man keeps developing in knowledge and technology.

Ample vocabularies from dictionaries regarding "Dah" and its circular shape and activities:

In the following ample Arabic and English vocabularies below, it is clear that the Arabic word "Dah" refers to:
1- An egg or spherical shape.
2- A squatted, dumpy, pushed down or pressed spherical object.
3- A circular motion.

I don’t think you would like me to post a long answer but if you are interested to know more about Earth shape in The Quran, visit the below link. you and me can make mistake to explain or to understand but Almigty God cannot make mistake.

http://www.answering-christianity.com/e ... _earth.htm

http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/ ... tists.html

You can state the origins and meanings of specific words in Arabic as you wish, but none the less the quran is quite specific in describing the shape of the earth as resembling an ostrich egg.

The equatorial diameter of the Earth is GREATER than the polar diameter, in an ostrich egg the opposite is where the equatorial diameter is LESS than the polar diameter and is the geometric opposite. This is also true even if you are on standing on the side of the Earth.

The pictures of the Earth in those links have been heavily distorted in order to decieve the reader.

The quran is in error.

[intermoon]

Are you sick or what Plonker because from where I'm sitting you appear to be perversely obsessed and filled with hatred for the West.

I'm "filled with hatred" for ALL war criminals, but it just so happens that 99.99% of war crimes are being committed by the US, UK, and Israel.

If Muslims fight for their freedom, they are called terrorists but if US,UK and Israel occupied others lands and kill 100's of thousands innocent people inclding women and children, they lable it "War against Terrorism"

isn't it double standards?

When Hitler cicked out jews from germany, arabs welcome them and provided them land to live and today jews have cicked palestinins out of their homes and when todsy they are fighting to get their homes back, Israel call them terrorists. see the map of Israel before 1947 and today.

Intermoon,

I have a simple yes or no question for you:

Is the Earth the same shape as an ostrich egg?

The simple answer to your question is that The shape of an ostrich-egg resembles the geo-spherical shape of the earth.

Keep in mind that the Quran was reveled when people believed that the earth was flat. Let me remind you that the Quran is not the book of science but the book of signs(Ayaats). There are more than 6000 Sings(Ayaat) in the Quran in which more than 1000 speak about Science.


Refer to my post below


SHAPE OF THE EARTH IS SPHERICAL

In early times, people believed that the earth was flat. For centuries, men were afraid to venture out too far, for fear of falling off the edge! Sir Francis Drake was the first person who proved that the earth is spherical when he sailed around it in 1597.
Consider the following Qur’anic verse regarding the alternation of day and night:

“Seest thou not that Allah merges Night into Day and He merges Day into Night?” [Al-Qur’an 31:29]

Merging here means that the night slowly and gradually changes to day and vice versa. This phenomenon can only take place if the earth is spherical. If the earth was flat, there would have been a sudden change from night to day and from day to night.
The following verse also alludes to the spherical shape of the earth:

“He created the heavens and the earth in true (proportions): He makes the Night overlap the Day, and the Day overlap the Night.” [Al-Qur’an 39:5]

The Arabic word used here is Kawwara meaning ‘to overlap’ or ‘to coil’– the way a turban is wound around the head. The overlapping or coiling of the day and night can only take place if the earth is spherical.
The earth is not exactly round like a ball, but geo-spherical, i.e. it is flattened at the poles. The following verse contains a description of the earth’s shape:

“And the earth, moreover, hath He made egg shaped.” [Al-Qur’an 79:30]

The Arabic word for egg here is dahaahaa1 which means an ostrich-egg. The shape of an ostrich-egg resembles the geo-spherical shape of the earth. Thus the Qur’an correctly describes the shape of the earth, though the prevalent notion when the Qur’an was revealed was that the earth was flat.
Who could have mentioned this in Qur’an 1400 Years ago?

I'll make it easier for you.

Yes or no, does the shape of the earth resemble the shape of an ostrich egg which is quite a specific shape?

The major problem I have is that your Allah, in his infinite wisdom couldn't even describle the shape of his creation correctly to his "prophet", this why the quran is invalid.

YES, the shape of an ostrich-egg resembles the geo-spherical shape of the earth.

Quran is not invalid just because you are taking the meaning literally the way you want to prove Quran wrong. Allah almighty described in the best way people could understand in that time and also in the time to come easily. The Quran was not revealed only for scientists to understand but also for common people and for all times. It perfectly makes sense and you should understand the Quran in full context.

Your refusal to accept basic FACTS is indicative of your closed and brainwashed mind.

The Earth is an oblate spheriod and an ostrich egg is its geometric opposite, a prolate spheroid.

Although the Earth is technically an oblate spheriod it is remarkably and almost a perfect sphere with 3% deviation along its axis.

Now had it been described as a ball or sphere in the quran this would have been far more factually correct than the incorrect description of an ostrich egg.

Now are you really telling me that even in those times, it was difficult to describe to the people of the time, that the shape of the Earth resembles a ball or as spherical or a flattened ball?

You may as well face the fact that the quran is wrong on this count and inaccurate - but I know your brainwashed mind wont allow you to.

Arabic is so eloquent language in which some time one word got several meanings. I am not an Arab nor Arabic is my native language therefore we must check and find the right meanings.

Scientists have proven that the earth have gone through several stages and shapes. Allah Almighty, by His Divine Wisdom and Mercy, chose to speak in the language of notions so that the right interpretation would slowly and surely be discovered by man as man keeps developing in knowledge and technology.

Ample vocabularies from dictionaries regarding "Dah" and its circular shape and activities:

In the following ample Arabic and English vocabularies below, it is clear that the Arabic word "Dah" refers to:
1- An egg or spherical shape.
2- A squatted, dumpy, pushed down or pressed spherical object.
3- A circular motion.

I don’t think you would like me to post a long answer but if you are interested to know more about Earth shape in The Quran, visit the below link. you and me can make mistake to explain or to understand but Almigty God cannot make mistake.

http://www.answering-christianity.com/e ... _earth.htm

http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/ ... tists.html

You can state the origins and meanings of specific words in Arabic as you wish, but none the less the quran is quite specific in describing the shape of the earth as resembling an ostrich egg.

The equatorial diameter of the Earth is GREATER than the polar diameter, in an ostrich egg the opposite is where the equatorial diameter is LESS than the polar diameter and is the geometric opposite. This is also true even if you are on standing on the side of the Earth.

The pictures of the Earth in those links have been heavily distorted in order to decieve the reader.

The quran is in error.

Dear Me Ed, You are free to choose and understand the way you want. Quran speaks much more about Science, There are much more wisdom and guidance in the Quran for the humanity. Even if there were nothing regarding science, Quran is still the most positive book on the face of the earth if you understand it in the right context and it is the only holy book preserved in its original language, it is guidance for all and teaches us how to live in peace, love others as ourselves, help each other, no difference between a king and a poor. No racism, no nationalism.

I know Islam as the best art of living. My brotherly advise to you will be to learn about Islam from the right source, not by the actions of some Muslims. I am very open mind and listen everyone to understand and compare with Islam to find out what is better? You may think that I am brainwashed but there is nothing true in it as I am totally free man to choose. I am free to believe whatever I want, So far I have not found any better way to live and enjoy life then Islam. Let’s be honest and witness the truth

May God almighty guide us all

Good Night

[Get Real!]

Britain Reveals Nuclear Arsenal: 225 Warheads

Britain disclosed Wednesday that it has a stockpile of 225 nuclear warheads, its first public accounting of its total nuclear arsenal.

The announcement, made without fanfare in the House of Commons, followed the Obama administration’s recent disclosure that the United States has 5,113 nuclear warheads in its arsenal and “several thousand” more retired warheads awaiting the junk pile — the first public description of the secretive stockpile born in the cold war and now shrinking rapidly.


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/27/world ... ?ref=world

[Lit]

Britain Reveals Nuclear Arsenal: 225 Warheads

And? Is it a surprise to you that Britain has a nuclear arsenal?

The diaspora, i believe, is the key to solving the Cyprus problem. Let us try to assist them - not ridicule them or the countries they currently reside in. Curious, what do you think your accomplishing with these threads you created, box head?

The world has changed but the box head is still stuck with a cold war mindset.

[miltiades]

Britain Reveals Nuclear Arsenal: 225 Warheads

And? Is it a surprise to you that Britain has a nuclear arsenal?

The diaspora, i believe, is the key to solving the Cyprus problem. Let us try to assist them - not ridicule them or the countries they currently reside in. Curious, what do you think your accomplishing with these threads you created, box head?

The world has changed but the box head is still stuck with a cold war mindset.

He is a first class wanker , a malaka proper !!
What a Plonker !

[Bananiot]

Miltiades, do you seriously believe that Britain can be ridiculed by a handfull of zealots that write in a forum such as this one. Only serious people can come anywhere close to ridiculing anybody or anything.

The diaspora, Lit, hold no key whatsoever, especially the one to the solution of the Cyprus problem. Here in Cyprus we are more than fed up with keys. It is bad enough having our enlightened politicians telling us from dawn to duck that Ankara holds the key. Next it will be Marikkou from Lefkara that holds the key.

[intermoon]

Britain Reveals Nuclear Arsenal: 225 Warheads

And? Is it a surprise to you that Britain have a nuclear arsenal?

The diaspora, i believe, is the key to solving the Cyprus problem. Let us try to assist them - not ridicule them or the countries they currently reside in. Curious, what do you think your accomplishing with these threads you created, box head?

The world has changed but the box head is still stuck with a cold war mindset.

I am not surprised to know because British Forces have killed thousands of innocent people without using the Nuclear weapons.

Problem is the double standards. if UK, USA and Israel can have nuclear weapons then why Iran cannot have? because Iran does not take dictation.

If USA,UK and Israel and other nuclear powers destroy their weapons. I will support and I am sure that the Iran will not get them.

[Bananiot]

Never my friend! God forbids if fanatics ever get hold of nuclear weapons.

[bsharpish]

Why should Iran not have weapons

would you give weapons to a country run by religious zealots who happily sponsor terrorism.

As an example ..... how comfortable would the average Greek be if Turkey's secular government was replaced by a hardline muslim one who then pumped huge amounts money and arms into the hands of extremist terror groups in the balkans region and decided it wanted the BOMB.