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Postby Paphitis » Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:26 am

YFred wrote:
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insan wrote:
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insan wrote:I don't think the "mini super power" of Balkans does not want to increase it's importance in eyes of it's EU and NATO partners. EU's and NATO's job in Balkans have almost completed.

Now their job is with Middle East and Far East. U must be too naive to believe that Greece don't want to get benefits of using the strategic importance of Cyprus to maintain even increase it's status of being the "mini super power" of Balkans besides Middle East.

U must be to naive or too sneaky to deny that especially the GC right wingers won't do everything possible to open Greece's way to allow Greece become a "mini super power" of a larger region from Balkans to East Mediterennean and Middle East.

Such a case would be totally destructive for the interests of both TCs and Turkey and even most probably for many middle eastern countries; thus NATO and some of the EU countries.


Greece does not consider itself a 'superpower' of any kind...

Greece already is important enough for both NATO and the EU, and it does not have any misconceptions as to its stabilising role in the region.

No I am not naive at all, because if Greece wanted to increase its influence in Cyprus or the Middle East, then it would stationed troops on the island, and this is clearly not the case, despite the threat the RoC endures from 43,000 occupation troops. Instead it has an irrelevant garrison of 1,000 ELDYK troops, and it even wants to withdraw them in the interests of RoC independence without foreign interference and achieving a demilitarised island...

There is absolutely no evidence to suggest what you are saying. It is quite clear that Greece's stance proves you absurdly incorrect...


U r still denying the crystal clear facts, Bafidi... Why should Greece station more troops on Cyprus while there is a national guard of 13.000 troops with a double headed Hellenic symbol on them and 130.000 armed reservists? Would u claim that had TCs had 13.000 TC national guard and 130.000 armed resevists, Turkey would have stationed 23.000 Turkish military personel on Cyprus? Funny!

Turkey also supports demilitarization of Cyprus and by supporting Annan Plan proved that really wants demilitarization of Cyprus.


The Cyprus National Guard is not Greek.

This defencive force belongs to Cyprus, and is clearly their to defend the island against Turkish expansionism. And having a National Guard of 13,000 Cypriot troops, is far short of the enemy they face which number some 43,000 occupation troops + 'TC Security Forces'.

And yet, Greece only has 1,000 troops of her own in Cyprus and wants to withdraw them as well, when the conditions on the ground permit it to do so. Greece does not send any more troops to have influence in Cyprus or to address the numerical imbalance.

Greece only supports the wishes of the RoC Government, and it will never compromise that Government's position by behaving like a 'Guarantor'.

Get your facts right Stupido Bafidobullo, the top man is greek, the army is greek. Period.
Get over it because it will have to change if you want peace.


The top man is Lieutenant General Petros Tsalikidis.

A Paphian no doubt! 8)
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Postby insan » Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:02 pm

Paphitis wrote:
YFred wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
insan wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
insan wrote:I don't think the "mini super power" of Balkans does not want to increase it's importance in eyes of it's EU and NATO partners. EU's and NATO's job in Balkans have almost completed.

Now their job is with Middle East and Far East. U must be too naive to believe that Greece don't want to get benefits of using the strategic importance of Cyprus to maintain even increase it's status of being the "mini super power" of Balkans besides Middle East.

U must be to naive or too sneaky to deny that especially the GC right wingers won't do everything possible to open Greece's way to allow Greece become a "mini super power" of a larger region from Balkans to East Mediterennean and Middle East.

Such a case would be totally destructive for the interests of both TCs and Turkey and even most probably for many middle eastern countries; thus NATO and some of the EU countries.


Greece does not consider itself a 'superpower' of any kind...

Greece already is important enough for both NATO and the EU, and it does not have any misconceptions as to its stabilising role in the region.

No I am not naive at all, because if Greece wanted to increase its influence in Cyprus or the Middle East, then it would stationed troops on the island, and this is clearly not the case, despite the threat the RoC endures from 43,000 occupation troops. Instead it has an irrelevant garrison of 1,000 ELDYK troops, and it even wants to withdraw them in the interests of RoC independence without foreign interference and achieving a demilitarised island...

There is absolutely no evidence to suggest what you are saying. It is quite clear that Greece's stance proves you absurdly incorrect...


U r still denying the crystal clear facts, Bafidi... Why should Greece station more troops on Cyprus while there is a national guard of 13.000 troops with a double headed Hellenic symbol on them and 130.000 armed reservists? Would u claim that had TCs had 13.000 TC national guard and 130.000 armed resevists, Turkey would have stationed 23.000 Turkish military personel on Cyprus? Funny!

Turkey also supports demilitarization of Cyprus and by supporting Annan Plan proved that really wants demilitarization of Cyprus.


The Cyprus National Guard is not Greek.

This defencive force belongs to Cyprus, and is clearly their to defend the island against Turkish expansionism. And having a National Guard of 13,000 Cypriot troops, is far short of the enemy they face which number some 43,000 occupation troops + 'TC Security Forces'.

And yet, Greece only has 1,000 troops of her own in Cyprus and wants to withdraw them as well, when the conditions on the ground permit it to do so. Greece does not send any more troops to have influence in Cyprus or to address the numerical imbalance.

Greece only supports the wishes of the RoC Government, and it will never compromise that Government's position by behaving like a 'Guarantor'.

Get your facts right Stupido Bafidobullo, the top man is greek, the army is greek. Period.
Get over it because it will have to change if you want peace.


The top man is Lieutenant General Petros Tsalikidis.

A Paphian no doubt! 8)




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Postby YFred » Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:06 pm

insan wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
YFred wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
insan wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
insan wrote:I don't think the "mini super power" of Balkans does not want to increase it's importance in eyes of it's EU and NATO partners. EU's and NATO's job in Balkans have almost completed.

Now their job is with Middle East and Far East. U must be too naive to believe that Greece don't want to get benefits of using the strategic importance of Cyprus to maintain even increase it's status of being the "mini super power" of Balkans besides Middle East.

U must be to naive or too sneaky to deny that especially the GC right wingers won't do everything possible to open Greece's way to allow Greece become a "mini super power" of a larger region from Balkans to East Mediterennean and Middle East.

Such a case would be totally destructive for the interests of both TCs and Turkey and even most probably for many middle eastern countries; thus NATO and some of the EU countries.


Greece does not consider itself a 'superpower' of any kind...

Greece already is important enough for both NATO and the EU, and it does not have any misconceptions as to its stabilising role in the region.

No I am not naive at all, because if Greece wanted to increase its influence in Cyprus or the Middle East, then it would stationed troops on the island, and this is clearly not the case, despite the threat the RoC endures from 43,000 occupation troops. Instead it has an irrelevant garrison of 1,000 ELDYK troops, and it even wants to withdraw them in the interests of RoC independence without foreign interference and achieving a demilitarised island...

There is absolutely no evidence to suggest what you are saying. It is quite clear that Greece's stance proves you absurdly incorrect...


U r still denying the crystal clear facts, Bafidi... Why should Greece station more troops on Cyprus while there is a national guard of 13.000 troops with a double headed Hellenic symbol on them and 130.000 armed reservists? Would u claim that had TCs had 13.000 TC national guard and 130.000 armed resevists, Turkey would have stationed 23.000 Turkish military personel on Cyprus? Funny!

Turkey also supports demilitarization of Cyprus and by supporting Annan Plan proved that really wants demilitarization of Cyprus.


The Cyprus National Guard is not Greek.

This defencive force belongs to Cyprus, and is clearly their to defend the island against Turkish expansionism. And having a National Guard of 13,000 Cypriot troops, is far short of the enemy they face which number some 43,000 occupation troops + 'TC Security Forces'.

And yet, Greece only has 1,000 troops of her own in Cyprus and wants to withdraw them as well, when the conditions on the ground permit it to do so. Greece does not send any more troops to have influence in Cyprus or to address the numerical imbalance.

Greece only supports the wishes of the RoC Government, and it will never compromise that Government's position by behaving like a 'Guarantor'.

Get your facts right Stupido Bafidobullo, the top man is greek, the army is greek. Period.
Get over it because it will have to change if you want peace.


The top man is Lieutenant General Petros Tsalikidis.

A Paphian no doubt! 8)




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Title Inspector General
Organization Hellenic Army
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Thanks Insan but there was no need really. As far as the truth is concerned, Bafidi, Kickapoo and a few others are concerned they are bent as a Banana.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Paphitis » Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:09 pm

YFred wrote:
insan wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
YFred wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
insan wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
insan wrote:I don't think the "mini super power" of Balkans does not want to increase it's importance in eyes of it's EU and NATO partners. EU's and NATO's job in Balkans have almost completed.

Now their job is with Middle East and Far East. U must be too naive to believe that Greece don't want to get benefits of using the strategic importance of Cyprus to maintain even increase it's status of being the "mini super power" of Balkans besides Middle East.

U must be to naive or too sneaky to deny that especially the GC right wingers won't do everything possible to open Greece's way to allow Greece become a "mini super power" of a larger region from Balkans to East Mediterennean and Middle East.

Such a case would be totally destructive for the interests of both TCs and Turkey and even most probably for many middle eastern countries; thus NATO and some of the EU countries.


Greece does not consider itself a 'superpower' of any kind...

Greece already is important enough for both NATO and the EU, and it does not have any misconceptions as to its stabilising role in the region.

No I am not naive at all, because if Greece wanted to increase its influence in Cyprus or the Middle East, then it would stationed troops on the island, and this is clearly not the case, despite the threat the RoC endures from 43,000 occupation troops. Instead it has an irrelevant garrison of 1,000 ELDYK troops, and it even wants to withdraw them in the interests of RoC independence without foreign interference and achieving a demilitarised island...

There is absolutely no evidence to suggest what you are saying. It is quite clear that Greece's stance proves you absurdly incorrect...


U r still denying the crystal clear facts, Bafidi... Why should Greece station more troops on Cyprus while there is a national guard of 13.000 troops with a double headed Hellenic symbol on them and 130.000 armed reservists? Would u claim that had TCs had 13.000 TC national guard and 130.000 armed resevists, Turkey would have stationed 23.000 Turkish military personel on Cyprus? Funny!

Turkey also supports demilitarization of Cyprus and by supporting Annan Plan proved that really wants demilitarization of Cyprus.


The Cyprus National Guard is not Greek.

This defencive force belongs to Cyprus, and is clearly their to defend the island against Turkish expansionism. And having a National Guard of 13,000 Cypriot troops, is far short of the enemy they face which number some 43,000 occupation troops + 'TC Security Forces'.

And yet, Greece only has 1,000 troops of her own in Cyprus and wants to withdraw them as well, when the conditions on the ground permit it to do so. Greece does not send any more troops to have influence in Cyprus or to address the numerical imbalance.

Greece only supports the wishes of the RoC Government, and it will never compromise that Government's position by behaving like a 'Guarantor'.

Get your facts right Stupido Bafidobullo, the top man is greek, the army is greek. Period.
Get over it because it will have to change if you want peace.


The top man is Lieutenant General Petros Tsalikidis.

A Paphian no doubt! 8)




Tsalikidis, Petros
Alias or alt. spelling
Title Inspector General
Organization Hellenic Army
Company
Country Greece
Birthday --/--/1949
Birthplace Komotini (Thrace)



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Thanks Insan but there was no need really. As far as the truth is concerned, Bafidi, Kickapoo and a few others are concerned they are bent as a Banana.
:lol: :lol: :lol:


Not bent enough to shoot unarmed men you sludge bucket.
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Postby YFred » Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:12 pm

Paphitis wrote:
YFred wrote:
insan wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
YFred wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
insan wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
insan wrote:I don't think the "mini super power" of Balkans does not want to increase it's importance in eyes of it's EU and NATO partners. EU's and NATO's job in Balkans have almost completed.

Now their job is with Middle East and Far East. U must be too naive to believe that Greece don't want to get benefits of using the strategic importance of Cyprus to maintain even increase it's status of being the "mini super power" of Balkans besides Middle East.

U must be to naive or too sneaky to deny that especially the GC right wingers won't do everything possible to open Greece's way to allow Greece become a "mini super power" of a larger region from Balkans to East Mediterennean and Middle East.

Such a case would be totally destructive for the interests of both TCs and Turkey and even most probably for many middle eastern countries; thus NATO and some of the EU countries.


Greece does not consider itself a 'superpower' of any kind...

Greece already is important enough for both NATO and the EU, and it does not have any misconceptions as to its stabilising role in the region.

No I am not naive at all, because if Greece wanted to increase its influence in Cyprus or the Middle East, then it would stationed troops on the island, and this is clearly not the case, despite the threat the RoC endures from 43,000 occupation troops. Instead it has an irrelevant garrison of 1,000 ELDYK troops, and it even wants to withdraw them in the interests of RoC independence without foreign interference and achieving a demilitarised island...

There is absolutely no evidence to suggest what you are saying. It is quite clear that Greece's stance proves you absurdly incorrect...


U r still denying the crystal clear facts, Bafidi... Why should Greece station more troops on Cyprus while there is a national guard of 13.000 troops with a double headed Hellenic symbol on them and 130.000 armed reservists? Would u claim that had TCs had 13.000 TC national guard and 130.000 armed resevists, Turkey would have stationed 23.000 Turkish military personel on Cyprus? Funny!

Turkey also supports demilitarization of Cyprus and by supporting Annan Plan proved that really wants demilitarization of Cyprus.


The Cyprus National Guard is not Greek.

This defencive force belongs to Cyprus, and is clearly their to defend the island against Turkish expansionism. And having a National Guard of 13,000 Cypriot troops, is far short of the enemy they face which number some 43,000 occupation troops + 'TC Security Forces'.

And yet, Greece only has 1,000 troops of her own in Cyprus and wants to withdraw them as well, when the conditions on the ground permit it to do so. Greece does not send any more troops to have influence in Cyprus or to address the numerical imbalance.

Greece only supports the wishes of the RoC Government, and it will never compromise that Government's position by behaving like a 'Guarantor'.

Get your facts right Stupido Bafidobullo, the top man is greek, the army is greek. Period.
Get over it because it will have to change if you want peace.


The top man is Lieutenant General Petros Tsalikidis.

A Paphian no doubt! 8)




Tsalikidis, Petros
Alias or alt. spelling
Title Inspector General
Organization Hellenic Army
Company
Country Greece
Birthday --/--/1949
Birthplace Komotini (Thrace)



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Thanks Insan but there was no need really. As far as the truth is concerned, Bafidi, Kickapoo and a few others are concerned they are bent as a Banana.
:lol: :lol: :lol:


Not bent enough to shoot unarmed men you sludge bucket.

I wait in complete ecstasy, you lying little shitake. Where's all this evidence you keep promising. Or are you just a tease, I don't have much time for ladies of that sort.
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Postby Paphitis » Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:12 pm

insan wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
YFred wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
insan wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
insan wrote:I don't think the "mini super power" of Balkans does not want to increase it's importance in eyes of it's EU and NATO partners. EU's and NATO's job in Balkans have almost completed.

Now their job is with Middle East and Far East. U must be too naive to believe that Greece don't want to get benefits of using the strategic importance of Cyprus to maintain even increase it's status of being the "mini super power" of Balkans besides Middle East.

U must be to naive or too sneaky to deny that especially the GC right wingers won't do everything possible to open Greece's way to allow Greece become a "mini super power" of a larger region from Balkans to East Mediterennean and Middle East.

Such a case would be totally destructive for the interests of both TCs and Turkey and even most probably for many middle eastern countries; thus NATO and some of the EU countries.


Greece does not consider itself a 'superpower' of any kind...

Greece already is important enough for both NATO and the EU, and it does not have any misconceptions as to its stabilising role in the region.

No I am not naive at all, because if Greece wanted to increase its influence in Cyprus or the Middle East, then it would stationed troops on the island, and this is clearly not the case, despite the threat the RoC endures from 43,000 occupation troops. Instead it has an irrelevant garrison of 1,000 ELDYK troops, and it even wants to withdraw them in the interests of RoC independence without foreign interference and achieving a demilitarised island...

There is absolutely no evidence to suggest what you are saying. It is quite clear that Greece's stance proves you absurdly incorrect...


U r still denying the crystal clear facts, Bafidi... Why should Greece station more troops on Cyprus while there is a national guard of 13.000 troops with a double headed Hellenic symbol on them and 130.000 armed reservists? Would u claim that had TCs had 13.000 TC national guard and 130.000 armed resevists, Turkey would have stationed 23.000 Turkish military personel on Cyprus? Funny!

Turkey also supports demilitarization of Cyprus and by supporting Annan Plan proved that really wants demilitarization of Cyprus.


The Cyprus National Guard is not Greek.

This defencive force belongs to Cyprus, and is clearly their to defend the island against Turkish expansionism. And having a National Guard of 13,000 Cypriot troops, is far short of the enemy they face which number some 43,000 occupation troops + 'TC Security Forces'.

And yet, Greece only has 1,000 troops of her own in Cyprus and wants to withdraw them as well, when the conditions on the ground permit it to do so. Greece does not send any more troops to have influence in Cyprus or to address the numerical imbalance.

Greece only supports the wishes of the RoC Government, and it will never compromise that Government's position by behaving like a 'Guarantor'.

Get your facts right Stupido Bafidobullo, the top man is greek, the army is greek. Period.
Get over it because it will have to change if you want peace.


The top man is Lieutenant General Petros Tsalikidis.

A Paphian no doubt! 8)




Tsalikidis, Petros
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Title Inspector General
Organization Hellenic Army
Company
Country Greece
Birthday --/--/1949
Birthplace Komotini (Thrace)



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I know his origins thank you very much.

And I don't see anything wrong with this. Cyprus obviously needs expert military leadership/help and there is nothing wrong with this amongst allies.

Australia, Canada, and UK swap officers all the time. In fact, we often have mixed crews on our aircraft.
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Postby insan » Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:36 pm

TCs do this with their only ally Turkey. Anything wrong with it?
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Postby Paphitis » Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:50 pm

insan wrote:TCs do this with their only ally Turkey. Anything wrong with it?


43,000 invading Turks...Nice try Insan... :lol:
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Postby YFred » Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:54 pm

insan wrote:TCs do this with their only ally Turkey. Anything wrong with it?

Yes Insan. They are both wrong.
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Postby insan » Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:58 pm

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insan wrote:TCs do this with their only ally Turkey. Anything wrong with it?


43,000 invading Turks...Nice try Insan... :lol:


invading force? First of all u need to question the legitimacy of illegally established(1964) GC national guard.

Second, u need to question the unilateral amendment of RoC constitution in 1964.

Third u need to question why intercommunal talks for bilateral amendment of Cyprus' constitution failed in 1968-71 period.

If u well examine these 3 issues u will clearly see and agree that it is the Greece and so-called RoC invaded Cyprus not Turkey and TCs.
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