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Postby cannedmoose » Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:18 pm

detailer wrote:Cannedmoose, I wont take back what I said. I am not claiming, of course that the prime mininister Tony Blair and Gordon Brown yesterday decided to let this attack happen. Of course not! What I am telling is that some very small but very strong fractions in the state might ignore this. Simple as that!


Sorry, I don't buy such conspiratorial nonsense.
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Postby detailer » Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:20 pm

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detailer wrote:Cannedmoose, I wont take back what I said. I am not claiming, of course that the prime mininister Tony Blair and Gordon Brown yesterday decided to let this attack happen. Of course not! What I am telling is that some very small but very strong fractions in the state might ignore this. Simple as that!


Sorry, I don't buy such conspiratorial nonsense.


Well, things are not that simple unfortunately...
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Postby cannedmoose » Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:22 pm

detailer wrote:Well, things are not that simple unfortunately...


No, sometimes things are that simple, you just seem to want to find a conspiracy where none exists. In doing so you dishonour the people who have been killed today by pointing the finger of blame not at the vicious individuals who planted these devices knowing that they were about to murder innocent people on their way to work and school, but at the British security and intelligence services. You should be ashamed detailer.
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Postby detailer » Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:26 pm

cannedmoose wrote:
detailer wrote:Well, things are not that simple unfortunately...


No, sometimes things are that simple, you just seem to want to find a conspiracy where none exists. In doing so you dishonour the people who have been killed today by pointing the finger of blame not at the vicious individuals who planted these devices knowing that they were about to murder innocent people on their way to work and school, but at the British security and intelligence services. You should be ashamed detailer.


Cannedmoose,

I am not dishonoring anyone. I am as upset as you for these innocent people. Don't blame me with this kind of shit.
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Postby gabaston » Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:34 pm

moosey

bad bad news.

big question now is british reaction in and to the iraq war.
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Postby cannedmoose » Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:40 pm

gabaston wrote:moosey

bad bad news.

big question now is british reaction in and to the iraq war.


If anything gabaston, it will temporarily at least, bolster support for the government. We've seen that with all opposition parties rallying behind them today. I don't think we'll see a Madrid-type response where the attack changed the political climate. What worries me most is how this attack will affect the internal cohesion in racial terms. If further attacks occur, I think muslim people, or even people who look in the slightest bit Middle-Eastern (this will include Cypriots) will become looked at with suspicion. I've seen how this happens elsewhere and I think it will be bad if it starts happening here on a wide scale too.
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Postby cannedmoose » Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:42 pm

The death toll now stands at 37 dead, with two dead on the double-decker bus that was bombed. More than 700 injured.
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Postby gabaston » Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:02 pm

terrible news and condolancies.

oh yeah nationalist parties will milk this thats for sure. But the british are level headed people, and are well aware that 99% of british moslems condemn these events.

moosey even bigger question....


do you reckon this will strengthen the pro or anti iraq war lobby?
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Postby detailer » Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:15 pm

gabaston wrote:terrible news and condolancies.

oh yeah nationalist parties will milk this thats for sure. But the british are level headed people, and are well aware that 99% of british moslems condemn these events.

moosey even bigger question....


do you reckon this will strengthen the pro or anti iraq war lobby?


I think ordinary people will feel less secure and muslims and any middle east type people may be thoght as potential terorists.

Ordinary British people will imagine Islam and its people dangerous, even evil. Someone may try to distinguish between %99.9 ordinary muslims and these barbarians in their mind but once the fear and disgust dropped into the heart, it is very diffucult to think logically.
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Postby gabaston » Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:17 pm

probably been a few muslims killed too i suspect.
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