Get Real! wrote::shock: Oh no Jimbo… look! Someone has started a permanent…
“The British are committing War Crimes”
…thread for the sole purpose of rubbing your snotty British nose in the dirt on a daily basis!
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=26479
What will you do now?
You should’ve kept your stupid mouth shut eh?
The British are committing War Crimes...
PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:10 am
3:10am ! What's up fella, couldn't sleep? Something troubling you?
Ah well - lets take a look at what you've got.
Hmmm.
2 posts which refer to the same thing. Namely an inquiry and subsequent prosecution of a member of the British Armed Forces for mistreatment of a prisoner.
OK - I'm going to go through this slowly for you Unkie GR. I understand that this could be difficult for you to keep up with.
Lets work from the Independent article - it goes into greater detail.
'British troops in Iraq routinely used interrogation methods banned by the Government in 1972 and did not think they were illegal, the inquiry into his death was told. '
Banned by the Government means that the UK does not sanction nor condone this practice and has made it illegal. The troops were undertaking a practice which was NOT sanctioned by the state.
The inquiry was conducted and instituted by the UK government and an extensive investigation was conducted into the allegation. This investigation involved several law agencies and direct testament from all concerned. The press and the home office were included.
Let's skip to the end of the article ....
Cpl Payne became the first member of the British Armed Forces to be convicted of a war crime when he pleaded guilty to inhumanely treating civilians at a court martial in September 2006.
First - a singular event. One of a kind. Not a regular occurrence.
convicted - found guilty of an offence.
He was dismissed from the Army and sentenced to one year in a civilian jail.
Dismissed - sacked, got rid of, thrown out.
Sentenced - a judgement or penalty which has been handed down in respect of an offence for which a person has been convicted.
Six other soldiers who faced the court martial were all cleared on all counts in March 2007.
Still only the one person then - hardly a state sponsored action.
The Ministry of Defence agreed in July last year to pay £2.83m in compensation to the families of Mr Mousa and nine other Iraqi men mistreated by British troops.
A substantial sum of cash given to the victims of the crime. Whilst it can never replace or compensate for a loss of life or for being subjected to torture it is, at least more than a token gesture or apology.
David Barr, counsel for the Ministry of Defence, said the "appalling" behaviour of British soldiers in the case "disgusted" the Army.
It was the MoD that made the prosecution.
Public apology and official statement on the case follows.
He told the inquiry: "It is with huge regret that the Ministry of Defence acknowledges the way in which some of those techniques were used on Baha Mousa and those detained with him.
"The mistreatment of the detainees went further than the application of these prohibited conditioning techniques.
"They were clearly subjected to brutal violence as well. Conditioning techniques alone do not cause such injuries.
"The brutality was completely unacceptable. It has stained the reputation of the British Army."
Cpl Payne's barrister, Michael Topolski QC, said the former soldier hoped that the inquiry would provide a "clearer and fuller picture" of what happened.
Mr Topolski said: "Donald Payne has accepted and he does accept that he violated his duty to those detainees.
"For that, through us, now without hesitation he wishes to publicly apologise to each of them and in particular to the family of Baha Mousa."
So - GR. Take a look at my post above and then re-read this post and the article that you've helpfully provided a link to.
Notice any similarities?
You really want me to challenge you to come up with evidence of your own country's willingness to lay bare it's policies to public scrutiny and it's ceaseless fight to stamp out corruption where ever it may be found?
You really want me to start providing links to all the examples of malfeasance and corruption in public office?
Have you ever heard of the expression 'trying to polish a turd'?
Didn't expect you to use your nose to try it ....
Still got a little ... errrmmmmm ... on the end of it. Hmmmm yeah.
Looking forward to your next post at 04.20am
