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[Paphitis]

Interesting addition for the SBAs to go ....

Did you add the bit about the SBAs yourself?

I seriously doubt that the RoC has the balls to come up with something like that....can you give us the link?

It's right there in the National Council conclusions ...

http://www.isria.com/pages/21_September_2009_101.php

Thanks for that...very surprising statement about the SBAs, especially at this time.

I would have thought that the RoC would have kept this under wraps.....

[Oracle]

There are lots of GC individuals and only a few individual TCs, thanks largely to GC efforts in the past.

So how many nations have parity of populations? Why should that pose a problem for individuals?

Kindly make rational factual comments or provide sources for stupid remarks like blaming the GCs for the number of TCs. Their numbers have virtually halved in the last 35 years and that has nothing to do with GCs. Whereas, they had steady numbers throughout their time on this Island, considering they were recent arrivals.

What do you want us to do ... force them to have sex with each other, to increase their numbers?

[Oracle]

Interesting addition for the SBAs to go ....

Did you add the bit about the SBAs yourself?

I seriously doubt that the RoC has the balls to come up with something like that....can you give us the link?

It's right there in the National Council conclusions ...

http://www.isria.com/pages/21_September_2009_101.php

Thanks for that...very surprising statement about the SBAs, especially at this time.

I would have thought that the RoC would have kept this under wraps.....

Why should they keep it under wraps? The SBA's are at odds with the EU ethos/equality. Why should Britain have preferential treatment to keep its soldiers in bases here in Cyprus?

Why not the French? Why not the Germans?

If we were to be fair and protective of Cyprus, we should turn over the Bases (probably just need one) to the New Pan-European Army which could be stationed here in order to kick out, and keep out, the Turks!

[vaughanwilliams]

There are lots of GC individuals and only a few individual TCs, thanks largely to GC efforts in the past.

So how many nations have parity of populations? Why should that pose a problem for individuals?

Kindly make rational factual comments or provide sources for stupid remarks like blaming the GCs for the number of TCs. Their numbers have virtually halved in the last 35 years and that has nothing to do with GCs. Whereas, they had steady numbers throughout their time on this Island, considering they were recent arrivals.

What do you want us to do ... force them to have sex with each other, to increase their numbers?

The reason their numbers have halved over the last 35 years is largely due to the economic isolation you have imposed upon them to the point where they have left the island to seek opportunity elsewhere. Prior to the last 35 years GCs forced them to leave Cyprus literaly at the point of a gun.

[vaughanwilliams]

Interesting addition for the SBAs to go ....

Did you add the bit about the SBAs yourself?

I seriously doubt that the RoC has the balls to come up with something like that....can you give us the link?

It's right there in the National Council conclusions ...

http://www.isria.com/pages/21_September_2009_101.php

Thanks for that...very surprising statement about the SBAs, especially at this time.

I would have thought that the RoC would have kept this under wraps.....

Why should they keep it under wraps? The SBA's are at odds with the EU ethos/equality. Why should Britain have preferential treatment to keep its soldiers in bases here in Cyprus?

Why not the French? Why not the Germans?

If we were to be fair and protective of Cyprus, we should turn over the Bases (probably just need one) to the New Pan-European Army which could be stationed here in order to kick out, and keep out, the Turks!

This is an old chestnut which clearly shows you guys don't realise that you can't be trusted to keep to a deal, a fact which hasn't escaped the TCs. The SBAs are not, and never have been part of RoC. They were formed before the RoC came into being as part of a Pre-independance deal. Under the deal the SBAs were not given to Britain - they remained a part of Britain - a big difference.

[Paphitis]

Interesting addition for the SBAs to go ....

Did you add the bit about the SBAs yourself?

I seriously doubt that the RoC has the balls to come up with something like that....can you give us the link?

It's right there in the National Council conclusions ...

http://www.isria.com/pages/21_September_2009_101.php

Thanks for that...very surprising statement about the SBAs, especially at this time.

I would have thought that the RoC would have kept this under wraps.....

Why should they keep it under wraps? The SBA's are at odds with the EU ethos/equality. Why should Britain have preferential treatment to keep its soldiers in bases here in Cyprus?

They should keep it under wraps, because the prime objective at the moment is to get the Turks out, and if I'm not mistaken, one of the prime reasons why Cyprus is partitioned to begin with, is due to US/UK strategic interests in the area.

Get the Turks out, and then focus on the SBAs, otherwise we are setting ourselves up for major disappointment, because US interests will just keep the Turks in Cyprus forever....

Have a read about Echelon and what this means to NATO and other interested parties:

http://www.fas.org/irp/program/process/echelon.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echelon_%2 ... ligence%29

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/ECHELON

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics ... 8Cyprus%29

If you play with fire, you will just get your fingers burned AGAIN....

Just common sense Oracle...

[Oracle]

Interesting addition for the SBAs to go ....

Did you add the bit about the SBAs yourself?

I seriously doubt that the RoC has the balls to come up with something like that....can you give us the link?

It's right there in the National Council conclusions ...

http://www.isria.com/pages/21_September_2009_101.php

Thanks for that...very surprising statement about the SBAs, especially at this time.

I would have thought that the RoC would have kept this under wraps.....

Why should they keep it under wraps? The SBA's are at odds with the EU ethos/equality. Why should Britain have preferential treatment to keep its soldiers in bases here in Cyprus?

They should keep it under wraps, because the prime objective at the moment is to get the Turks out, and if I'm not mistaken, one of the prime reasons why Cyprus is partitioned to begin with, is due to US/UK strategic interests in the area.

Get the Turks out, and then focus on the SBAs, otherwise we are setting ourselves up for major disappointment, because US interests will just keep the Turks in Cyprus forever....

Have a read about Echelon and what this means to NATO and other interested parties:

http://www.fas.org/irp/program/process/echelon.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echelon_%2 ... ligence%29

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/ECHELON

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics ... 8Cyprus%29

If you play with fire, you will just get your fingers burned AGAIN....

Just common sense Oracle...

They (inter alia) are who got us in this mess in the first place ... so why should we carry on dancing to their fiddle?

It's to the EU we should be looking and this meeting was prepared with that in mind.

If we can bring in the Germans and French (+) without the exclusive control Britain enjoys, then we stand a chance to fight off the Turks.

[bill cobbett]

Interesting addition for the SBAs to go ....

Did you add the bit about the SBAs yourself?

I seriously doubt that the RoC has the balls to come up with something like that....can you give us the link?

It's right there in the National Council conclusions ...

http://www.isria.com/pages/21_September_2009_101.php

Thanks for that...very surprising statement about the SBAs, especially at this time.

I would have thought that the RoC would have kept this under wraps.....

Why should they keep it under wraps? The SBA's are at odds with the EU ethos/equality. Why should Britain have preferential treatment to keep its soldiers in bases here in Cyprus?

They should keep it under wraps, because the prime objective at the moment is to get the Turks out, and if I'm not mistaken, one of the prime reasons why Cyprus is partitioned to begin with, is due to US/UK strategic interests in the area.

Get the Turks out, and then focus on the SBAs, otherwise we are setting ourselves up for major disappointment, because US interests will just keep the Turks in Cyprus forever....

Have a read about Echelon and what this means to NATO and other interested parties:

http://www.fas.org/irp/program/process/echelon.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echelon_%2 ... ligence%29

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/ECHELON

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics ... 8Cyprus%29

If you play with fire, you will just get your fingers burned AGAIN....

Just common sense Oracle...

Yep, bad timing.

The SBAs must and will be dealt with, but now's not the time. Considering them now is ,at best, an unhelpful distraction from the main game, imho.

... unless it's some kind of negotiating ploy (?).

As far as the rest if the statement goes, am pleased that the primacy of individual property rights is again emphasised, ie. up to property owners to decide on return or compensation and also the repeat of any settlement having to meet EU standards.

[Oracle]

Interesting addition for the SBAs to go ....

Did you add the bit about the SBAs yourself?

I seriously doubt that the RoC has the balls to come up with something like that....can you give us the link?

It's right there in the National Council conclusions ...

http://www.isria.com/pages/21_September_2009_101.php

Thanks for that...very surprising statement about the SBAs, especially at this time.

I would have thought that the RoC would have kept this under wraps.....

Why should they keep it under wraps? The SBA's are at odds with the EU ethos/equality. Why should Britain have preferential treatment to keep its soldiers in bases here in Cyprus?

Why not the French? Why not the Germans?

If we were to be fair and protective of Cyprus, we should turn over the Bases (probably just need one) to the New Pan-European Army which could be stationed here in order to kick out, and keep out, the Turks!

This is an old chestnut which clearly shows you guys don't realise that you can't be trusted to keep to a deal, a fact which hasn't escaped the TCs. The SBAs are not, and never have been part of RoC. They were formed before the RoC came into being as part of a Pre-independance deal. Under the deal the SBAs were not given to Britain - they remained a part of Britain - a big difference.

We didn't enter into any deal. Britain's unscrupulous, coercive blackmail and daylight robbery, in this country, is no longer acceptable.

Cyprus was never Britain's to chop and change; neither was it the Turks'. It's like going back to Africa and saying, "Well, we did a deal that 5% of your children will carry on being slaves to us because once upon a time you all belonged to us as slaves" ... Even if they had, it would no longer be acceptable!

All forms of slavery must come to an end and, to date, Britain continues this tradition in Cyprus with the Bases; Turkey with taking "possession" of the GCs' property.

Slave-trader Brits and Turks, out of Cyprus!!

[Paphitis]

Interesting addition for the SBAs to go ....

Did you add the bit about the SBAs yourself?

I seriously doubt that the RoC has the balls to come up with something like that....can you give us the link?

It's right there in the National Council conclusions ...

http://www.isria.com/pages/21_September_2009_101.php

Thanks for that...very surprising statement about the SBAs, especially at this time.

I would have thought that the RoC would have kept this under wraps.....

Why should they keep it under wraps? The SBA's are at odds with the EU ethos/equality. Why should Britain have preferential treatment to keep its soldiers in bases here in Cyprus?

They should keep it under wraps, because the prime objective at the moment is to get the Turks out, and if I'm not mistaken, one of the prime reasons why Cyprus is partitioned to begin with, is due to US/UK strategic interests in the area.

Get the Turks out, and then focus on the SBAs, otherwise we are setting ourselves up for major disappointment, because US interests will just keep the Turks in Cyprus forever....

Have a read about Echelon and what this means to NATO and other interested parties:

http://www.fas.org/irp/program/process/echelon.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echelon_%2 ... ligence%29

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/ECHELON

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics ... 8Cyprus%29

If you play with fire, you will just get your fingers burned AGAIN....

Just common sense Oracle...

They (inter alia) are who got us in this mess in the first place ... so why should we carry on dancing to their fiddle?

It's to the EU we should be looking and this meeting was prepared with that in mind.

If we can bring in the Germans and French (+) without the exclusive control Britain enjoys, then we stand a chance to fight off the Turks.

I don't think you have much choice in the matter, and as stated by BillC, it is very bad timing and you don't want countries such as US, UK, Australia, Canada, NZ and even NATO jumping on the Turkish bandwagon (any more than they already are) because they will ALL sell you out in a flash when it comes to their own strategic interests and goals.