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[Christine Toskos]

I live in the 21st century. What century do you live in Fred? 13th century when the Saladin conquered Jerusalem? I think I am talking to the Ottoman conquers not someone living in the 21st century. I do believe the Knights of Templar won the war this discussion would never had taken place. Ottomans would never have conquered Constantinople and we would have been enslaved by the Turks for 300 years. Cyprus was the last of the Greek islands to fall under the barbarian rule. When Venetians lost Cyprus. Did the Turkish school teach World history? Or did they say Cyprus was always Turkish? Since even under the Ottomans Cyprus was a Greek speaking and Greek Orthodox people.

[insan]

I live in the 21st century. What century do you live in Fred? 13th century when the Saladin conquered Jerusalem? I think I am talking to the Ottoman conquers not someone living in the 21st century. I do believe the Knights of Templar won the war this discussion would never had taken place. Ottomans would never have conquered Constantinople and we would have been enslaved by the Turks for 300 years. Cyprus was the last of the Greek islands to fall under the barbarian rule. When Venetians lost Cyprus. Did the Turkish school teach World history? Or did they say Cyprus was always Turkish? Since even under the Ottomans Cyprus was a Greek speaking and Greek Orthodox people.

Our schools teach us that ur churches were closed by venetians but when ottomans came to cyprus restored the GO church... is it true or
they lie to us?

[Christine Toskos]

Then if why did you destroy our churches now?

[Expatkiwi]

So if you can be friends with us why can't we live as neighbors? Why does the Turkish army have to be on our island? Do you understand why we feel threatened?

Do you appreciate how frightened the Turkish Cypriots were when Greek Cypriot paramilitaries were running rampant on the island in '63, and when the attempted Sampson coup started? The Turkish Cypriots were threatened. Somehow, I just don't think you comprehend that...

[insan]

Then if why did you destroy our churches now?

Retaliation of destroyed mosques, I guess... 2 wrongs don't make 1 correct but illiteracy kills u know... i guess..

[Christine Toskos]

The last time I saw Mosques in Southern Cyprus and they were all in tact. I even saw Greeks maintaining them. But, I know that our churches have been destroyed. Some were turned into barns or gambling casinos. I was shock because I thought Mohammad said gambling is a sin.

[Medman]

Lets not make out your shit don't stink either. There is great distrust between both communties. Articles like this and preeched on this forum doesn't help....

Minister brands police sweep xenophobic
By Stefanos Evripidou

INTERIOR MINISTER Neoclis Sylikiotis yesterday slated the massive police sweep against illegal immigrants in old Nicosia on Friday, saying it reinforced the view of “xenophobia and racism in our society”.

Despite being responsible for illegal migration, the minister said he was not informed of the operation beforehand, adding that its indiscriminate nature was “wrong”.

Police made 48 arrests at dawn on Friday after using 257 members of the police force to gather 150 foreign nationals either from their homes or on their way to work. Most were released after being taken to the station for identification, while 36 were arrested for illegal residence and 12 for being implicated in a recent clash at the Omeriye mosque.

The police leadership and Justice Minister maintained the aim was to tackle crime, prevent illegal immigration and instil a sense of security in the old town. Migrant support group KISA argued that the authorities were simply pandering to racists who believed that non-EU nationals were responsible for crime in the old town, despite no statistical evidence to back it up.

“I was not informed. I spoke to the Justice Minister at 7am as soon as I heard about it. He told me (the operation) was targeted. Such things cannot happen, it is wrong, they can’t indiscriminately carry out such operations,” said Sylikiotis.

KISA’s executive director Doros Polycarpou charged that police were fighting “crime” without even proving its existence by entering houses without warrants and handcuffing women.

Police spokesman Michalis Katsounotos said at no point did police enter houses without warrants. He repeated the view that the main aim of the operation was to embed a sense of security among residents of the old town.

“I consider that such things cannot be repeated. There is a specific policy which must be followed regarding illegal immigrants,” said Sylikiotis. The minister listed a number of measures already taken to tackle illegal migration, including stricter laws on illegal employers, faster asylum application processes, and a proposal to criminalise the renting of accommodation to illegal migrants. KISA countered that such a move is anathema to the universal right to shelter, stipulated in international conventions.

Sylikiotis also referred to the fact that many legal migrants get caught in the net when you have such wide-sweeping operations. “Why arrest someone who is legal just to ascertain their details? It strengthens the view of xenophobia and racism in our society.”

The reaction to the operation was mixed, with popular daily Politis, calling it a “pogrom” against migrants. Listeners on the state broadcaster’s Trito station called in with differing opinions. One said he was embarrassed to be a Cypriot citizen, while another said those who are not legitimate tax paying citizens have it coming.

KISA’s Polycarpou welcomed the dialogue on the issue, but questioned why the municipality had yet to engage with any migrant representatives to discuss the problems faced in the old town.



Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2009

[YFred]

It can only happen in RoC. Its called Racial Profiling and I was under the impression that it was generally not practiced in the EU. I thought that they used Intelligence profiling but unfortunately nobody told the poor roc police that.

This reminds me of a news story a read some time ago, when the Turks gave the right to the Kurds to speak Kurdish. One Kurdish politician began speaking to a gathering in Kurdish. He was immediately arrested by the local police rep at the meeting, and got locked up for 3 days. When he challenged the arresting officer regarding the change in the law apparently he commented "Nobody told me".

Some GCs have the audacity (Spelt correctly this time- TFF the MS word) to laugh at the Turks and their behaviour.

[insan]

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[Get Real!]

Cyprus was the last of the Greek islands to fall under the barbarian rule. When Venetians lost Cyprus.

What “Greek island” you illiterate fool? Greece was already under the Ottomans from 1458, while Cyprus was under Venice when the Ottomans first attacked in 1570!