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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Lit » Sun Sep 20, 2009 3:15 pm

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Nikitas wrote:Denktash, like Makarios, was a driven man. It is worth investigating what drives a man like that to convert his personal passion into a tragedy for his community. Makarios is easy, he was a monk, something which is evident in all his life and actions. Denktash was a man of the world, a lawyer but it is easy to see a virulent anti Greek sentiment in his actions and his statements. This must come from some event or circumstance. Anyone have any info?


If a man was made since the age of 5, to sing every morning "how happy he is to be a Turk" and "one Turk equals the whole world" -slogans which his father in the mid of his fuddle uttered, what else would you have expected him to have become?


And whats your excuse?


excuse to what?


For hating TCs?


You do not need me to hate you! You hate yourselves enough! I heard you are erecting another huge statue in Nicosia, of Lala Mustafa this time! When is Attila the Hun’s turn going to be?


Kifeas the difference between us is that we know we are donkeys and are comfortable in our skins, you GCs still think you are a race horse but in reality you are a donkey.


Race horses, saddles, donkeys oh my! Viewpoint, i need to be honest with you for a sec. I would like to kindly point out that this donkey analogy of yours wasnt funny the first time you wrote it, not the second, nor the 50th time. I am sorry but its not. You can do better.
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Postby Kikapu » Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:31 am

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The FACT which some posters do not want to accept is that Cyprus was the most succesful candidate country, meeting and exceeding the entry criteria to a greater extent than any other candidate country.



Well said. Why should Cyprus be punished for the Turkish invasion? I have one question though? Uhh, how do you do it, Nikitas? How do you put up with the backwardness in this forum? Inquiring minds want to know.....


Yeh, right. Just shows how stupid were the EU. Taking in Cyprus with its 'unresolved mess'. Beggars belief. Idiots :roll:


Deniz, if it wasn't for the fact that Cyprus is in the EU, we would not be having any settlements talks now or in the future. Remember, according to Denktash and Turkey, the Cyprus problem was solved in 1974.!



Kiks, from what I sense, no current leader is capable to achieving peace - even if they mean to. I trust neither, more so Talat.


Put it this way, Deniz. If it wasn't for the fact that the RoC has been given the chance to level the playing field against Turkey's military might versus EU's economic might that the RoC has become a member of, which Turkey also wants to be an equal member, is the reason why I hold hope that in the end peace will be achieved with True Democracy, Human Rights, International Laws and EU Principles. Before 2004, the dominant factor in trying to find a settlement was Turkey's military might with a message to the RoC, "My way or the Highway". At least now, both sides can use the same slogan, hence the levelling of the playing field. Don't lose hope yet my friend, because military might’s come and go, but economic might’s rule in the long run. Turkey needs economic might more than military might right now for her future. The EU can give her that, which will bring a settlement to Cyprus also.!
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:24 am

You are living in cuckoo land Turkeys EU route will go on and on and on and you GCs will still be running around like headless chickens, how many years will it take for you to see that the EU will not just put the solution you demand on a silver plater and serve it up because 800.000 spoilt GCs demand it. You need to get a grip that you will not get 100% of what you demand and nor will we only then will you understand how a solution will be achieved, otherwise you will be looking at the flag for many many more years to come....Turkey is on your northern border and gtting larger by the day tick tock tick tock...time is not on your side.
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Postby wallace » Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:27 am

Viewpoint wrote:You are living in cuckoo land Turkeys EU route will go on and on and on and you GCs will still be running around like headless chickens, how many years will it take for you to see that the EU will not just put the solution you demand on a silver plater and serve it up because 800.000 spoilt GCs demand it. You need to get a grip that you will not get 100% of what you demand and nor will we only then will you understand how a solution will be achieved, otherwise you will be looking at the flag for many many more years to come....Turkey is on your northern border and gtting larger by the day tick tock tick tock...time is not on your side.


Getting larger by the day??? Who's land are they stealing now?
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:28 am

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Viewpoint wrote:You are living in cuckoo land Turkeys EU route will go on and on and on and you GCs will still be running around like headless chickens, how many years will it take for you to see that the EU will not just put the solution you demand on a silver plater and serve it up because 800.000 spoilt GCs demand it. You need to get a grip that you will not get 100% of what you demand and nor will we only then will you understand how a solution will be achieved, otherwise you will be looking at the flag for many many more years to come....Turkey is on your northern border and gtting larger by the day tick tock tick tock...time is not on your side.


Getting larger by the day??? Who's land are they stealing now?


Sorry Population wise we have 37% of the land no need to be greedy.
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Postby wallace » Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:39 am

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Viewpoint wrote:You are living in cuckoo land Turkeys EU route will go on and on and on and you GCs will still be running around like headless chickens, how many years will it take for you to see that the EU will not just put the solution you demand on a silver plater and serve it up because 800.000 spoilt GCs demand it. You need to get a grip that you will not get 100% of what you demand and nor will we only then will you understand how a solution will be achieved, otherwise you will be looking at the flag for many many more years to come....Turkey is on your northern border and gtting larger by the day tick tock tick tock...time is not on your side.


Getting larger by the day??? Who's land are they stealing now?


Sorry Population wise we have 37% of the land no need to be greedy.


No need to be greedy? 80% of the land in the North is GC owned. Are you for real? Plenty of free space in Turkey. Enough for people that adore turkey so much to go and life there. Take the settlers with you also. They still have a home there. I'm not assuming they were living in caves.....right?
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:44 am

wallace wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:You are living in cuckoo land Turkeys EU route will go on and on and on and you GCs will still be running around like headless chickens, how many years will it take for you to see that the EU will not just put the solution you demand on a silver plater and serve it up because 800.000 spoilt GCs demand it. You need to get a grip that you will not get 100% of what you demand and nor will we only then will you understand how a solution will be achieved, otherwise you will be looking at the flag for many many more years to come....Turkey is on your northern border and gtting larger by the day tick tock tick tock...time is not on your side.


Getting larger by the day??? Who's land are they stealing now?


Sorry Population wise we have 37% of the land no need to be greedy.


No need to be greedy? 80% of the land in the North is GC owned. Are you for real? Plenty of free space in Turkey. Enough for people that adore turkey so much to go and life there. Take the settlers with you also. They still have a home there. I'm not assuming they were living in caves.....right?


No thanks, I belong here and am not going anywhere. You are right the GC owners should have a right to their properties via the TRNC feel free to apply to the property commission. Then they can live amongst us in the TRNC like some GCs already do.
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Postby Nikitas » Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:05 am

Deniz surprises us once again with this:

"Yeh, right. Just shows how stupid were the EU. Taking in Cyprus with its 'unresolved mess'. Beggars belief. Idiots "

Is it any different than Ireland? Or Spain and its Basque problem. The French police are arresting Basque separatists and finding their arms caches on a daily basis. That problem is potentially much worse than ours. Should these countries be kept out of the EU because they have problems?

The view presumably is that the majority of the population of Cyprus should be kept hostage to Turkey forever. Not a very enlightened view.
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Postby zan » Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:12 am

Nikitas wrote:Deniz surprises us once again with this:

"Yeh, right. Just shows how stupid were the EU. Taking in Cyprus with its 'unresolved mess'. Beggars belief. Idiots "

Is it any different than Ireland? Or Spain and its Basque problem. The French police are arresting Basque separatists and finding their arms caches on a daily basis. That problem is potentially much worse than ours. Should these countries be kept out of the EU because they have problems?

The view presumably is that the majority of the population of Cyprus should be kept hostage to Turkey forever. Not a very enlightened view.


Then why make rules at all Nikitas......You claim that Cyprus had all it needed to join the EU...It clearly did not according to that clubs rules.....If you are going to work on the "Suffering" of people as to bending the rules then the TC people have been suffering since 1964........Where are our exemptions??? Nt only that but you are in favour of those hardships to go on. :roll:
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:17 am

Nikitas wrote:Deniz surprises us once again with this:

"Yeh, right. Just shows how stupid were the EU. Taking in Cyprus with its 'unresolved mess'. Beggars belief. Idiots "

Is it any different than Ireland? Or Spain and its Basque problem. The French police are arresting Basque separatists and finding their arms caches on a daily basis. That problem is potentially much worse than ours. Should these countries be kept out of the EU because they have problems?

The view presumably is that the majority of the population of Cyprus should be kept hostage to Turkey forever. Not a very enlightened view.



No apologies for surprising you. They got in the way they did. What has hapenned since. NOTHING. In the meantime the settlers presence is ruining our island.
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