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[Christine Toskos]

There is only one solution to the Cyprus solution. All Turks out of Cyprus. If they are afraid to live on this beautiful Greek island then leave! Al Queda wants Cyprus dead just as they want Israel dead. As I said, on the History channel it shown how much Muslims hate Christians. The Barbaric Turks are the best example of Muslim intolerance. While, we Greeks were fighting for our freedom from British rule in the 1950's. Turkey kept her barbaric mouth shut. Once it was obvious we won our freedom from the British. They wanted a piece of us. Why? Because they are a hatred, cruel and barbaric nation. They want all of us. They want not only Cyprus, but all the Aegean islands, Thrace, Macedonia! Enough Greek blood shed by these barbarians. Remember what they did to the Armenians and Greeks of Asia Minor. I don't Trust any Turk. Especially after watching the show inside the Koran. They want all Christians dead not only us Greeks.

[YFred]

There is only one solution to the Cyprus solution. All Turks out of Cyprus. If they are afraid to live on this beautiful Greek island then leave! Al Queda wants Cyprus dead just as they want Israel dead. As I said, on the History channel it shown how much Muslims hate Christians. The Barbaric Turks are the best example of Muslim intolerance. While, we Greeks were fighting for our freedom from British rule in the 1950's. Turkey kept her barbaric mouth shut. Once it was obvious we won our freedom from the British. They wanted a piece of us. Why? Because they are a hatred, cruel and barbaric nation. They want all of us. They want not only Cyprus, but all the Aegean islands, Thrace, Macedonia! Enough Greek blood shed by these barbarians. Remember what they did to the Armenians and Greeks of Asia Minor. I don't Trust any Turk. Especially after watching the show inside the Koran. They want all Christians dead not only us Greeks.

My dear lady, you see the greeks are so full of crap that their blood is very good fertaliser. Thats what the turks tapping into, you know a bit of natural fertaliser.

[denizaksulu]

There is only one solution to the Cyprus solution. All Turks out of Cyprus. If they are afraid to live on this beautiful Greek island then leave! Al Queda wants Cyprus dead just as they want Israel dead. As I said, on the History channel it shown how much Muslims hate Christians. The Barbaric Turks are the best example of Muslim intolerance. While, we Greeks were fighting for our freedom from British rule in the 1950's. Turkey kept her barbaric mouth shut. Once it was obvious we won our freedom from the British. They wanted a piece of us. Why? Because they are a hatred, cruel and barbaric nation. They want all of us. They want not only Cyprus, but all the Aegean islands, Thrace, Macedonia! Enough Greek blood shed by these barbarians. Remember what they did to the Armenians and Greeks of Asia Minor. I don't Trust any Turk. Especially after watching the show inside the Koran. They want all Christians dead not only us Greeks.

Hurry up and finish your milk. Its past your bed-time already!!

[Piratis]

Accepting minority status in a Greek/GC ruled Cyprus could never be an alternative for TCs and Turkey.

And why is accepting what you really are not an option for you? Why is at an option for the Turks in Rhodes, or the Turkish minorities in Greek mainland, or the Turks in Bulgaria or for that matter the Greeks in Turkey, and it is not an option for you?


You started the conflict in the 1950s to gain way more than what your 18% minority deserved and this conflicts continues and will continue until everybody in Cyprus gets what they deserve.

As I said in another thread try asking in any other country where there is a Turkish minority for the powers that you are asking in Cyprus, and lets see if any majority in any other country will accept such powers given to such a small minority.

[Nikitas]

"They have still been exerting for it... "

Any evidence that Greece is pursuing an Enosis policy? There is plenty of evidence that Turkey is actively implementing partition.

The example of Scotland above was to illustrate that no self respecting nation is willing to have its citizens' human rights diminished.

As for Turkey accepting Greece in Cyprus the words of Bulent Ecevit are clear enough "double union would make Greece a Middle Eastern power, and that would be totally unacceptable". It is a nightmare Turkey has been living with since 1923. It also explains that outright partition is unacceptable to Turkey.

[Nikitas]

Deniz-

Re Kofinou. It is naive to believe that all of a sudden Grivas ordered the national guard to move against Kofinou.

The fact is that there had been sporadic shots at GC traffic going past Mari and Kofinou for some weeks before the incident.

It is also true that Grivas refused to use the army, saying that the matter was a police situation. Orders for him to move against Kofinou had to come from Athens before he reluctantly agreed to move. As far as I recall the clash resulted in 25 dead TCs and 17 GCs. The really significant outcome is that it led to the withdrawal of the Greek division and the Evros agreement. It was after that agreement that dictator Papadopoulos made his two lovers speech, likening Cyprus to a woman having two lovers, namely Greece and Turkey. I cannot find a more obscene description of double union than that one. Double union became an increasingly more prominent idea in Greece since that speech.

It was also the start of an open rift between Makarios and the dictators.

[insan]

"They have still been exerting for it... "

Any evidence that Greece is pursuing an Enosis policy? There is plenty of evidence that Turkey is actively implementing partition.

The example of Scotland above was to illustrate that no self respecting nation is willing to have its citizens' human rights diminished.

As for Turkey accepting Greece in Cyprus the words of Bulent Ecevit are clear enough "double union would make Greece a Middle Eastern power, and that would be totally unacceptable". It is a nightmare Turkey has been living with since 1923. It also explains that outright partition is unacceptable to Turkey.

The so-called RoC was politically united with Greece since 1964. Since then they have been exerting to make TCs a minority in Cyprus and kick Turks and Brits out of Cyprus.

[Nikitas]

Insan,

Cyprus politically united with Greece? Where were you in 2004 to hear Greek politicians in the media being openy derogatory towards Cypriots. The view that there is any degree of political cooperation between Greece and Cyprus that goes beyond what is normal relations between countries is a false notion.

Just think that more Greeks visit Istanbul every year than visit Cyprus. There are more Turkish cultural events in Athens than Cypriot ones.

If there is a tendency in Greek policy towards Cyprus since 1974 it is the policy of growing aloofness, not increasing closeness.

If Greece had projected its rights as a guarantor power things might have been different. Unfortunately Greece considers that it has rid itself of the Cyprus issue. It is not going to let itself be trapped again.

[insan]

Insan,

Cyprus politically united with Greece? Where were you in 2004 to hear Greek politicians in the media being openy derogatory towards Cypriots. The view that there is any degree of political cooperation between Greece and Cyprus that goes beyond what is normal relations between countries is a false notion.

Just think that more Greeks visit Istanbul every year than visit Cyprus. There are more Turkish cultural events in Athens than Cypriot ones.

If there is a tendency in Greek policy towards Cyprus since 1974 it is the policy of growing aloofness, not increasing closeness.

If Greece had projected its rights as a guarantor power things might have been different. Unfortunately Greece considers that it has rid itself of the Cyprus issue. It is not going to let itself be trapped again.

Nikitas, I'm not accusing Greece and GC administration(especially right wingers) politically cooperating for their common national interests. Only knowing that Greece helped(blackmailed EU countries)in order the so-called RoC to be accepted as an EU member that we all know motives behind it; is enough for me to prove GCs and Greece have a lot of common national interests that politically unite them. It was only Greece that blackmailed EU countries regarding the EU accession of the so-called RoC.

Sorry Nikitas but if u claim Greece has no interests in Cyprus while even Britain has; I can comfortably consider u either a blind or an illiterate person. Moreover, i can comfortably claim that Greece must be too stupid not to have any interests in Cyprus while Brits, Turkey, US and EU have...

[Piratis]

Greece has no interests in Cyprus. It is Cyprus that has interests to be united with Greece, since in that way we can protect our island better from foreign invaders. It is for the same reason we united with EU. It is our island so we can unite it with whomever we want.

You still didn't tell me Insan. What is so special with TCs that while they are just the 18% of the population they can not accept what they really are: a minority? Why the same is not the case with the Turks of Rhodes or the Greek mainland, the Turks in Bulgaria or the Greeks in Turkey?