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[Paphitis]

God’s mistake was to overestimate man by assuming that they could manage themselves! We’re nothing but an insult to anything heavenly…

Ahah!...You're a theist.

But what kind of a theist are you?

Are you the George W Bush variety, or are you a de facto theist?

Correction… the Bush family think they ARE God!

Btw, I'm the 99.99999999999999999999999999999 type.

You're a De facto theist!

You are 99.999999999999999999% the same as George Bush....

G.Bush doesn’t believe in God; he just uses God’s name in vein to benefit at other’s expense.

George W Bush is a well known Christian Fundamentalist.

[alexISS]

Did the Ancient Greeks believe in hell?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hades

Or did they just believe that if they did not obey certain rules that pleased Zeus etc etc, then the Gods from Olympus will meter some kind of other punishment, such as a Storm, or earth quake?

That too. However, the Gods of the ancient Greeks were very different to the righteous, omnipotent God of the Israelis. They had weaknesses and antagonized humans in many ways. In fact, the act of defying a God could be even considered heroic, as illustrated in Homer's Odyssey

[Get Real!]

God’s mistake was to overestimate man by assuming that they could manage themselves! We’re nothing but an insult to anything heavenly…

Ahah!...You're a theist.

But what kind of a theist are you?

Are you the George W Bush variety, or are you a de facto theist?

Correction… the Bush family think they ARE God!

Btw, I'm the 99.99999999999999999999999999999 type.

You're a De facto theist!

You are 99.999999999999999999% the same as George Bush....

G.Bush doesn’t believe in God; he just uses God’s name in vein to benefit at other’s expense.

George W Bush is a well known Christian Fundamentalist.

“Christian fundamentalism” isn’t Christianity! It’s what I said earlier… using God’s name to satisfy one’s selfish interests.

[Paphitis]

God’s mistake was to overestimate man by assuming that they could manage themselves! We’re nothing but an insult to anything heavenly…

Ahah!...You're a theist.

But what kind of a theist are you?

Are you the George W Bush variety, or are you a de facto theist?

Correction… the Bush family think they ARE God!

Btw, I'm the 99.99999999999999999999999999999 type.

You're a De facto theist!

You are 99.999999999999999999% the same as George Bush....

G.Bush doesn’t believe in God; he just uses God’s name in vein to benefit at other’s expense.

George W Bush is a well known Christian Fundamentalist.

“Christian fundamentalism” isn’t Christianity! It’s what I said earlier… using God’s name to satisfy one’s selfish interests.

Erm no GR!

The Republican Party had received millions of dollars in campaign money from Evangelical Fundamentalist groups. These Christian Fundamentalists viewed George W Bush as the nation's savior, because he was deemed to be the person to create the theocratic society they always wanted, which would allow them to victimize gays, make religious studies compulsory, abolish evolutionary studies, adopt creationism, and prevent abortion laws. He was against cloning and stem cell research as well.

He was very much a neo fascist Christian Fundamentalist.

[Get Real!]

Erm no GR!

The Republican Party had received millions of dollars in campaign money from Evangelical Fundamentalist groups. These Christian Fundamentalists viewed George W Bush as the nation's savior, because he was deemed to be the person to create the theocratic society they always wanted, which would allow them to victimize gays, make religious studies compulsory, abolish evolutionary studies, adopt creationism, and prevent abortion laws. He was against cloning and stem cell research as well.

He was very much a neo fascist Christian Fundamentalist.

Paphitis, you’re just taking labels that contain the word “Christian”, or variations thereof, and foolishly assuming that they actually represent God because they say so!

People can claim whatever they want but that doesn’t necessarily make it true.

Anyway, I’m getting pretty bored of someone who insists on using G.Bush and his henchmen as a representation of God… it just goes to show how clueless you are on this subject.

[Paphitis]

Did the Ancient Greeks believe in hell?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hades

Or did they just believe that if they did not obey certain rules that pleased Zeus etc etc, then the Gods from Olympus will meter some kind of other punishment, such as a Storm, or earth quake?

That too. However, the Gods of the ancient Greeks were very different to the righteous, omnipotent God of the Israelis. They had weaknesses and antagonized humans in many ways. In fact, the act of defying a God could be even considered heroic, as illustrated in Homer's Odyssey

Yeh! The Greek God's had human weaknesses/emotions.

But I also found this. It sounds very similar to what we have today with our Christian Judaism...

Depends what you mean by both terms. In Greek mythology, Hades was the place of the dead. Inside Hades there were three sections. 1. Elysia, where heroes enjoyed a blissful existence (like Heaven). 2. Tartarus, where the truly wicked would suffer and where the Titans were imprisoned by the Olympians (like Hell). 3. Asphodel, an inbetween place for the majority of humanity, which was unpleasant but not terrible like Tartarus. (like Limbo).

It's a shame that we have adopted another culture's dogma, and did not maintain our own, by allowing it to evolve and adopt ethical ideals of our time, something the Ancient Greeks were renowned for.

Both are myths, but Ancient Greek mythology also provided societal controls and a means of dealing with the fear of death, that some naturally crave due to predisposed survival instincts and the need to console their fears of death with the thought of an after life in heaven.

[Paphitis]

Erm no GR!

The Republican Party had received millions of dollars in campaign money from Evangelical Fundamentalist groups. These Christian Fundamentalists viewed George W Bush as the nation's savior, because he was deemed to be the person to create the theocratic society they always wanted, which would allow them to victimize gays, make religious studies compulsory, abolish evolutionary studies, adopt creationism, and prevent abortion laws. He was against cloning and stem cell research as well.

He was very much a neo fascist Christian Fundamentalist.

Paphitis, you’re just taking labels that contain the word “Christian”, or variations thereof, and foolishly assuming that they actually represent God because they say so!

Representing God and having Christian beliefs are 2 seperate things GR!.

George W Bush does consider himself to be a Christian as he sternly believes in God and creationism, but representing God is a totally different matter.

People can claim whatever they want but that doesn’t necessarily make it true.

If someone states they believe in God, then that makes them a Christian...regardless of their actions.

Anyway, I’m getting pretty bored of someone who insists on using G.Bush and his henchmen as a representation of God… it just goes to show how clueless you are on this subject.

I did not do such a thing GR!

I find George W Bush and religion quite repulsive, and I find you repulsive for suggesting the above.

[AWE]

Strong atheist - I was after the death of my father in '90 and still am.

One of the many bits I liked about "The God Delusion" is when he talks about belief as a evolutionary trait and how this has been exploited by the priest kings of early civilizations through to religions of today.

So you know that God does not exist.

How can you be so certain?

@ ADMIN - I posted this in Cyprus Problem by accident. Can you please move the topic to the General Section?

Cannot be certain, but I have not be presented with any proof that would make me believe - it does not mean that I feel others should not believe if they are given a free choice and allowed to weigh the arguments for and against.

[Paphitis]

Strong atheist - I was after the death of my father in '90 and still am.

One of the many bits I liked about "The God Delusion" is when he talks about belief as a evolutionary trait and how this has been exploited by the priest kings of early civilizations through to religions of today.

So you know that God does not exist.

How can you be so certain?

@ ADMIN - I posted this in Cyprus Problem by accident. Can you please move the topic to the General Section?

Cannot be certain, but I have not be presented with any proof that would make me believe - it does not mean that I feel others should not believe if they are given a free choice and allowed to weigh the arguments for and against.

Then you should have voted for de facto atheist.....

[Get Real!]

If someone states they believe in God, then that makes them a Christian...regardless of their actions.

This statement clearly demonstrates that you are clueless on God’s word.

What I find strange is that most people don’t even know the basic message of God (obviously because they’ve never bothered to study it), yet feel compelled to discuss and question things!

Just stick to your superficial surface-scraping Paphitis…