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The Spectrum of Probability about God's existence...

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Where do you fit in about God's existence or non existence?

Strong theist: 100% probability of God - 'I do not believe, I know'.
4
14%
De facto theist: very high probability but short of 100% - 'I strongly believe in God and live my life on the assumption he is there'.
3
11%
Higher than 50%, but not very high. Technically agnostic but leaning towards theism - 'I am very uncertain but I am inclined to believe in God'.
2
7%
Impartial agnostic: exactly 50% - 'God's existence and non-existence are exacly equiprobable'.
2
7%
Technically agnostic: lower than 50% but not very low. Technically agnostic but leaning towards atheism - 'I don't know whether God exists but I'm inclined to be sceptical'.
0
No votes
De facto atheist: very low probability but short of zero. 'I cannot know for certain , but I think God is very improbable, and I live my life on the assumption he is not there'.
9
32%
Strong atheist: 'I do not believe there is a God because I know he does not exist'.
8
29%
 
Total votes : 28

Postby Get Real! » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:16 pm

Paphitis wrote:GR! wrote:
PS: Your poll sucks Paphitis… you didn’t have to write up a paragraph for each option! :roll:


That was the only way of adequately explaining the 7 options so that people can fully understand what they're voting for... :roll:

Then what's your first post for? :?
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Postby Paphitis » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:22 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:GR! wrote:
PS: Your poll sucks Paphitis… you didn’t have to write up a paragraph for each option! :roll:


That was the only way of adequately explaining the 7 options so that people can fully understand what they're voting for... :roll:

The what's your first post for? :?


I just lazily cut and paste from my main post out of laziness... :lol:

But you don't have to read the same thing twice, do you? If you read my post then you don't need to read the poll options.

Some other members might not even read my initial post, and just read the poll options and vote.
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:22 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Looking at the dismal situation on planet Earth is the wrong way to go about contemplating the existence of a God, and the right way to see why man needs and had better have a God!


George W Bush is a Strong theist and saw his invasion of Iraq as "fulfilling God's will".

Of course, there are many more events which killed innocent people "in the name of God", so do you think that religiosity has proven to be destructive to mankind?

Humans, have MANY reasons to kill each other... a conflict in religion being just one of them. Their premise is always the very destructive…

“I want to have it all and be in charge!”

That pretty much sums them up.
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Postby Paphitis » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:25 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Looking at the dismal situation on planet Earth is the wrong way to go about contemplating the existence of a God, and the right way to see why man needs and had better have a God!


George W Bush is a Strong theist and saw his invasion of Iraq as "fulfilling God's will".

Of course, there are many more events which killed innocent people "in the name of God", so do you think that religiosity has proven to be destructive to mankind?

Humans, have MANY reasons to kill each other... a conflict in religion being just one of them. Their premise is always the very destructive…

“I want to have it all and be in charge!”

That pretty much sums them up.


"I'm a Christian and you are not", or "I'm a Muslim and you're an infidel", also sums things up quite nicely.

These attitudes have killed millions.
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:28 pm

God’s mistake was to overestimate man by assuming that they could manage themselves! We’re nothing but an insult to anything heavenly… :(
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Postby Oracle » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:28 pm

insan wrote:I defacto believe that God exists. A several times I felt the existence of God but I've never have been a traditional believer who practice the 5 pillars of Islam or practice of any other religions.

As for what this issue has to do with solution of cyprus problem... I don't know. :lol:


That's what comes of spending too long staring at statues of your idol Ataturk! :lol:
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Postby zan » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:35 pm

I have a problem with being labeled as an atheist because it is conceived to be that "followers" "refuse" to believe rather than CAN'T believe. Can't because there doesn't have to be a god for the universe to exist. That is a "leap of faith" that religious zealots cannot take.

I only really understood (rudimentary understanding that is) what wave theory is when I was doing a little research into vitamin C after a conversation with Oracle. I sent her an article that explains the atomic activity of how our bodies take such "ingredients" and use them. It seems that there has to be an imbalance in order to gain from the transaction. It sounded very much like the imbalance that is thought to have set off the Big Bang. It is also the way the Atom bomb works and that seems to be the way the whole universe works. We are just the echo of the Big Bang.........A complex wave form in which thought and the quest for who we are and why we are here begins. Enter Religion. An imbalance of "Why's" spawned a series of "Maybe's" not being able to understand the world around them. We are no where near understanding fully but we now know there is a lot more to understand and not think in absolutes.
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Postby insan » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:38 pm

Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:I defacto believe that God exists. A several times I felt the existence of God but I've never have been a traditional believer who practice the 5 pillars of Islam or practice of any other religions.

As for what this issue has to do with solution of cyprus problem... I don't know. :lol:


That's what comes of spending too long staring at statues of your idol Ataturk! :lol:


U sound like again as u need some entertainment to get rid of ur boredom of an empty meaningless life. :lol

Perhaps, we all should let u spew all ur guts out, clean ur inner world from all the dirts and refill it with somethings nice, kind, caress, respectful, humane, intelligent etc...
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Postby Oracle » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:39 pm

zan wrote:I have a problem with being labeled as an atheist because it is conceived to be that "followers" "refuse" to believe rather than CAN'T believe. Can't because there doesn't have to be a god for the universe to exist. That is a "leap of faith" that religious zealots cannot take.

I only really understood (rudimentary understanding that is) what wave theory is when I was doing a little research into vitamin C after a conversation with Oracle. I sent her an article that explains the atomic activity of how our bodies take such "ingredients" and use them. It seems that there has to be an imbalance in order to gain from the transaction. It sounded very much like the imbalance that is thought to have set off the Big Bang. It is also the way the Atom bomb works and that seems to be the way the whole universe works. We are just the echo of the Big Bang.........A complex wave form in which thought and the quest for who we are and why we are here begins. Enter Religion. An imbalance of "Why's" spawned a series of "Maybe's" not being able to understand the world around them. We are no where near understanding fully but we now know there is a lot more to understand and not think in absolutes.


That article wasn't about wave theory ... it was about free-radical mopping by antioxidants! :lol:
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Postby zan » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:42 pm

Oracle wrote:
zan wrote:I have a problem with being labeled as an atheist because it is conceived to be that "followers" "refuse" to believe rather than CAN'T believe. Can't because there doesn't have to be a god for the universe to exist. That is a "leap of faith" that religious zealots cannot take.

I only really understood (rudimentary understanding that is) what wave theory is when I was doing a little research into vitamin C after a conversation with Oracle. I sent her an article that explains the atomic activity of how our bodies take such "ingredients" and use them. It seems that there has to be an imbalance in order to gain from the transaction. It sounded very much like the imbalance that is thought to have set off the Big Bang. It is also the way the Atom bomb works and that seems to be the way the whole universe works. We are just the echo of the Big Bang.........A complex wave form in which thought and the quest for who we are and why we are here begins. Enter Religion. An imbalance of "Why's" spawned a series of "Maybe's" not being able to understand the world around them. We are no where near understanding fully but we now know there is a lot more to understand and not think in absolutes.


That article wasn't about wave theory ... it was about free-radical mopping by antioxidants! :lol:



I said it set me thinking not what the article was about...It is called lateral thinking dear....... :roll: :wink:
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