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Postby Linichka » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:30 pm

"Does the test result match your self-preception of your personality? "

I think so. You see, I am not judgmental that much of the time. But as is true of most of us, there are some topics on which I have very strong opinions and find it difficult to understand those who differ.
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Postby Oracle » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:39 pm

Here are my results (for today ... may well be completely different tomorrow :lol: )

Your Type is ENFP

Extraverted Intuitive Feeling Perceiving
Strength of the preferences %
78 50 62 11

Qualitative analysis of your type formula

You are:

very expressed extravert

moderately expressed intuitive personality

distinctively expressed feeling personality

slightly expressed perceiving personality



And here is what it says if you click onto the next link for ENFP types ...

Like the other Idealists, Champions are rather rare, say two or three percent of the population, but even more than the others they consider intense emotional experiences as being vital to a full life. Champions have a wide range and variety of emotions, and a great passion for novelty. They see life as an exciting drama, pregnant with possibilities for both good and evil, and they want to experience all the meaningful events and fascinating people in the world. The most outgoing of the Idealists, Champions often can't wait to tell others of their extraordinary experiences. Champions can be tireless in talking with others, like fountains that bubble and splash, spilling over their own words to get it all out. And usually this is not simple storytelling; Champions often speak (or write) in the hope of revealing some truth about human experience, or of motivating others with their powerful convictions. Their strong drive to speak out on issues and events, along with their boundless enthusiasm and natural talent with language, makes them the most vivacious and inspiring of all the types.

Fiercely individualistic, Champions strive toward a kind of personal authenticity, and this intention always to be themselves is usually quite attractive to others. At the same time, Champions have outstanding intuitive powers and can tell what is going on inside of others, reading hidden emotions and giving special significance to words or actions. In fact, Champions are constantly scanning the social environment, and no intriguing character or silent motive is likely to escape their attention. Far more than the other Idealists, Champions are keen and probing observers of the people around them, and are capable of intense concentration on another individual. Their attention is rarely passive or casual. On the contrary, Champions tend to be extra sensitive and alert, always ready for emergencies, always on the lookout for what's possible.

Champions are good with people and usually have a wide range of personal relationships. They are warm and full of energy with their friends. They are likable and at ease with colleagues, and handle their employees or students with great skill. They are good in public and on the telephone, and are so spontaneous and dramatic that others love to be in their company. Champions are positive, exuberant people, and often their confidence in the goodness of life and of human nature makes good things happen.

Joan Baez, Phil Donahue, Paul Robeson, Bill Moyer, Elizibeth Cady Stanton, Joeseph Campbell, Edith Wharton, Sargent Shriver, Charles Dickens, and Upton Sinclair are examples of Idealist Champions
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Postby Paphitis » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:49 pm

Well, bellow is a description of a ENTJ.

Your Type is ENTJ

Fieldmarshal? :lol: :lol:

Rational Portrait of the Fieldmarshal (ENTJ)

Of the four aspects of strategic analysis and definition it is marshaling or situational organizing role that reaches the highest development in the Fieldmarshal. As this kind of role is practiced some contingency organizing is necessary, so that the second suit of the Fieldmarshal's intellect is devising contingency plans. Structural and functional engineering, though practiced in some degree in the course of organizational operations, tend to be not nearly as well developed and are soon outstripped by the rapidly growing skills in organizing. But it must be said that any kind of strategic exercise tends to bring added strength to engineering as well as organizing skills.

Fieldmarshals are bound to lead others, and from an early age they can be observed taking command of groups. In some cases, they simply find themselves in charge of groups, and are mystified as to how this happened. But the reason is that they have a strong natural urge to give structure and direction wherever they are - to harness people in the field and to direct them to achieve distant goals. They resemble Supervisors in their tendency to establish plans for a task, enterprise, or organization, but Fieldmarshals search more for policy and goals than for regulations and procedures.

They cannot not build organizations, and cannot not push to implement their goals. When in charge of an organization, whether in the military, business, education, or government, Fieldmarshals more than any other type desire (and generally have the ability) to visualize where the organization is going, and they seem able to communicate that vision to others. Their organizational and coordinating skills tends to be highly developed, which means that they are likely to be good at systematizing, ordering priorities, generalizing, summarizing, at marshaling evidence, and at demonstrating their ideas. Their ability to organize, however, may be more highly developed than their ability to analyze, and the Fieldmarshal leader may need to turn to an Inventor or Architect to provide this kind of input.

Fieldmarshals will usually rise to positions of responsibility and enjoy being executives. They are tireless in their devotion to their jobs and can easily block out other areas of life for the sake of their work. Superb administrators in any field - medicine, law, business, education, government, the military - Fieldmarshals organize their units into smooth-functioning systems, planning in advance, keeping both short-term and long-range objectives well in mind. For the Fieldmarshal, there must always be a goal-directed reason for doing anything, and people's feelings usually are not sufficient reason. They prefer decisions to be based on impersonal data, want to work from well thought-out plans, like to use engineered operations - and they expect others to follow suit. They are ever intent on reducing bureaucratic red tape, task redundancy, and aimless confusion in the workplace, and they are willing to dismiss employees who cannot get with the program and increase their efficiency. Although Fieldmarshals are tolerant of established procedures, they can and will abandon any procedure when it can be shown to be ineffective in accomplishing its goal. Fieldmarshals root out and reject ineffectiveness and inefficiency, and are impatient with repetition of error.

Hillary Clinton, Napoleon, Margret Thatcher, Carl Sagan, Bill Gates, Golda Meir, Edward Teller, George Benard Shaw, and General George C. Marshall are examples of Rational Fieldmarshals.

A full description of the Fieldmarshal and Rational is in People Patterns or Please Understand Me II
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Postby bill cobbett » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:56 pm

Mine .....

Your Type is
INTJ
Introverted Intuitive Thinking Judging
Strength of the preferences %
100 62 38 56

Pollocks!
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Postby Oracle » Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:11 pm

bill cobbett wrote:Mine .....

Your Type is
INTJ
Introverted Intuitive Thinking Judging
Strength of the preferences %
100 62 38 56

Pollocks!


OMG .... You're 100% introverted!

You really need to let your hair down sometimes .... :lol:
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Postby bill cobbett » Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:30 pm

Oracle wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Mine .....

Your Type is
INTJ
Introverted Intuitive Thinking Judging
Strength of the preferences %
100 62 38 56

Pollocks!


OMG .... You're 100% introverted!

You really need to let your hair down sometimes .... :lol:


Yes, I thought that 100% was undeniably significant.

I'll just go and let my over-long hair down by winding up the usual suspects over in CyProb. Must be my way of over-coming my social constipation. :lol:
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Postby Talisker » Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:52 pm

bill cobbett wrote:Mine .....

Your Type is
INTJ
Introverted Intuitive Thinking Judging
Strength of the preferences %
100 62 38 56

Pollocks!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Now we know Bill! You clearly sit alone in a room, never going out and interacting with the 'real' world, and use the forum as your outlet. I'd have said your forum persona was as a 'slightly expressed extravert'.

Thanks for providing useful data - certainly contributing to proving the hypothesis 'No forumer has a real life persona which exactly mirrors their forum personality'. :lol:

Because of the disparity between my perception of your online persona and the results of the personality test I've repeated the test and have pretty much the same result as before:

- slightly expressed introvert
- slightly expressed intuitive personality
- slightly expressed feeling personality
- moderately expressed judging personality

at 11, 12, 12, and 44 % respectively of strength of preferences. So, results are reproducible (at least for me!), but are they accurate? Only each of us as individuals can comment, and clearly you don't agree with the result (Pollocks!). :lol:

For the record (for what its worth), I am considered to be an INFJ type with the following characteristics.

Idealist Portrait of the Counselor (INFJ)
Counselors have an exceptionally strong desire to contribute to the welfare of others, and find great personal fulfillment interacting with people, nurturing their personal development, guiding them to realize their human potential. Although they are happy working at jobs (such as writing) that require solitude and close attention, Counselors do quite well with individuals or groups of people, provided that the personal interactions are not superficial, and that they find some quiet, private time every now and then to recharge their batteries. Counselors are both kind and positive in their handling of others; they are great listeners and seem naturally interested in helping people with their personal problems. Not usually visible leaders, Counselors prefer to work intensely with those close to them, especially on a one-to-one basis, quietly exerting their influence behind the scenes.

Counselors are scarce, little more than one percent of the population, and can be hard to get to know, since they tend not to share their innermost thoughts or their powerful emotional reactions except with their loved ones. They are highly private people, with an unusually rich, complicated inner life. Friends or colleagues who have known them for years may find sides emerging which come as a surprise. Not that Counselors are flighty or scattered; they value their integrity a great deal, but they have mysterious, intricately woven personalities which sometimes puzzle even them.

Counselors tend to work effectively in organizations. They value staff harmony and make every effort to help an organization run smoothly and pleasantly. They understand and use human systems creatively, and are good at consulting and cooperating with others. As employees or employers, Counselors are concerned with people's feelings and are able to act as a barometer of the feelings within the organization.

Blessed with vivid imaginations, Counselors are often seen as the most poetical of all the types, and in fact they use a lot of poetic imagery in their everyday language. Their great talent for language-both written and spoken-is usually directed toward communicating with people in a personalized way. Counselors are highly intuitive and can recognize another's emotions or intentions - good or evil - even before that person is aware of them. Counselors themselves can seldom tell how they came to read others' feelings so keenly. This extreme sensitivity to others could very well be the basis of the Counselor's remarkable ability to experience a whole array of psychic phenomena.

Mohandas Gandhi, Sidney Poitier, Eleanor Roosevelt, Jane Goodall, Emily Bronte, Sir Alec Guiness, Carl Jung, Mary Baker Eddy, Queen Noor are examples of the Counselor Idealist (INFJ).


Again for the record - this description of my personality is 'spot on'. (IMHO) :lol:
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Postby bill cobbett » Sun Sep 20, 2009 3:31 pm

Talisker wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Mine .....

Your Type is
INTJ
Introverted Intuitive Thinking Judging
Strength of the preferences %
100 62 38 56

Pollocks!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Now we know Bill! You clearly sit alone in a room, never going out and interacting with the 'real' world, and use the forum as your outlet. I'd have said your forum persona was as a 'slightly expressed extravert'.

Thanks for providing useful data - certainly contributing to proving the hypothesis 'No forumer has a real life persona which exactly mirrors their forum personality'. :lol:

Because of the disparity between my perception of your online persona and the results of the personality test I've repeated the test and have pretty much the same result as before:

- slightly expressed introvert
- slightly expressed intuitive personality
- slightly expressed feeling personality
- moderately expressed judging personality

at 11, 12, 12, and 44 % respectively of strength of preferences. So, results are reproducible (at least for me!), but are they accurate? Only each of us as individuals can comment, and clearly you don't agree with the result (Pollocks!). :lol:

For the record (for what its worth), I am considered to be an INFJ type with the following characteristics.

Idealist Portrait of the Counselor (INFJ)
Counselors have an exceptionally strong desire to contribute to the welfare of others, and find great personal fulfillment interacting with people, nurturing their personal development, guiding them to realize their human potential. Although they are happy working at jobs (such as writing) that require solitude and close attention, Counselors do quite well with individuals or groups of people, provided that the personal interactions are not superficial, and that they find some quiet, private time every now and then to recharge their batteries. Counselors are both kind and positive in their handling of others; they are great listeners and seem naturally interested in helping people with their personal problems. Not usually visible leaders, Counselors prefer to work intensely with those close to them, especially on a one-to-one basis, quietly exerting their influence behind the scenes.

Counselors are scarce, little more than one percent of the population, and can be hard to get to know, since they tend not to share their innermost thoughts or their powerful emotional reactions except with their loved ones. They are highly private people, with an unusually rich, complicated inner life. Friends or colleagues who have known them for years may find sides emerging which come as a surprise. Not that Counselors are flighty or scattered; they value their integrity a great deal, but they have mysterious, intricately woven personalities which sometimes puzzle even them.

Counselors tend to work effectively in organizations. They value staff harmony and make every effort to help an organization run smoothly and pleasantly. They understand and use human systems creatively, and are good at consulting and cooperating with others. As employees or employers, Counselors are concerned with people's feelings and are able to act as a barometer of the feelings within the organization.

Blessed with vivid imaginations, Counselors are often seen as the most poetical of all the types, and in fact they use a lot of poetic imagery in their everyday language. Their great talent for language-both written and spoken-is usually directed toward communicating with people in a personalized way. Counselors are highly intuitive and can recognize another's emotions or intentions - good or evil - even before that person is aware of them. Counselors themselves can seldom tell how they came to read others' feelings so keenly. This extreme sensitivity to others could very well be the basis of the Counselor's remarkable ability to experience a whole array of psychic phenomena.

Mohandas Gandhi, Sidney Poitier, Eleanor Roosevelt, Jane Goodall, Emily Bronte, Sir Alec Guiness, Carl Jung, Mary Baker Eddy, Queen Noor are examples of the Counselor Idealist (INFJ).


Again for the record - this description of my personality is 'spot on'. (IMHO) :lol:


What can I say mate, other than I have been uncovered, laid bare and found out. :cry: Pollocks!
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Postby Talisker » Sun Sep 20, 2009 3:55 pm

The new null hypthesis is:

The Cyprus Forum does not, and never will, contribute positively to resolution of the Cyprus Problem.

Evidence required to prove or disprove this hypothesis please, my caged, furry rodents!
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Postby Paphitis » Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:00 am

Talisker wrote:The new null hypthesis is:

The Cyprus Forum does not, and never will, contribute positively to resolution of the Cyprus Problem.

Evidence required to prove or disprove this hypothesis please, my caged, furry rodents!


I was waiting for someone else to reply to this interesting hypothesis... :lol:

I believe that at least some of us started participating on this forum to fill some social need or requirement to fill something missing in our own personal life. I suspect that this might also be the case for some other forumers.

For me it all started with the need or desire to 'socialise' with other Cypriots, even if it is online, because that is what I have lacked or missed in Australia. It also believe that the forum has helped me learn more about Cyprus and the Cypriot culture and way of thinking.

I don't believe that many truly believe they are here because they truly believe that their presence will contribute positively towards the Cyprus Problem. However, there are many individuals that might want to research and learn all about the Cyprus Problem, and so it is important that we publish factual articles in support of The Republic of Cyprus, because there are literally millions of people online that could be influenced about our national struggle...and that is extremely important, and a big responsibility.
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