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[turkcyp]

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[metecyp]

Do you guys think Cyprus had gained independence immaturely in 1960? Do you think it would have been better if both GCs and TCs gain more wealth and thus education under British rule and then ask for independence?

If we haven't had 1963-1974 and 1974 events and if we had a healthy RoC, I would definetely prefer that to anything else. But as we all know that didn't happen. I think I prefer the British rule to all we went through. I think Bananiot suggested something like this a while ago and he was attacked by our "progressive" GC friends as traitor prefering to stay as British colony.

[Agios Amvrosios]

What about if we stayed part of the Ottoman Empire. That would be fantastic hey guys.

[Othellos]

Do you guys think Cyprus had gained independence immaturely in 1960? Do you think it would have been better if both GCs and TCs gain more wealth and thus education under British rule and then ask for independence?

An interesting question, partly because it touches the aspect of the economic prosperity of Cypriots related to their desire for getting rid of colonial rule.

I am not sure how wealth and education would make a real difference here. In 2005 we are much wealthier and better educated than what we were in 1960 and yet we still have a long way to go before we can claim that we are a mature society. At least this is what I see.

O.

[MicAtCyp]

Everything we say is just a possibility Turkcyp. Perhaps it would evolve like you described.
Perhaps it would would just postpone everything and instead of just having the 63 and 74 we would have the 83 and 94.
Perhaps the level of education and wealth would lead to Enosis.Perhaps it would lead to partition.Perhaps it would lead to a multi-zonal Federation. Perhaps it would lead to us be an extention of London.

Just food for thought, can we reverse your question? I mean did we perhaps get independence too late? In other words when the GCs had no other option than form Eoka and link that struggle with both liberation and Enosis?I beleive if we got independence earlier still there would be a desire for Enosis among the GCs but they would not have the paramilitary to force it with violence. And after they would devolop more than Greece they would just forget it for purely economic reasons.

[Dhavlos]

To a certain extent....and i know this is controversial....maybe independance in 1960 was good (as well as what followed).

Almost every country, if not all, have had a civil war.

The 60's/'74 was, in my eyes, an example of a cypriot civil war. It may have been better then, due to the fact that now modern warfare would cause much more distruction/etc.

If we hadn't got independance then, then im sure we would still have had problems, maybe not as gruesome, but similar to what happened in the 60's.

However, it is too late to think about it now, as it has happened. Only good can come out of what happened in the 1960s/74 and i hope that future generations will learn from it, and not be drawn to the 'barbarism' many were drawn too/pulled into, during that period.

[gabaston]

dhavlos

id just like to commend your understanding of the cyprob.

64-70 has been called civil unrest, or communal conflict, or been given some other name. You have seen it for what it is; a civil war.

[Dhavlos]

it doesnt take much to see that!!!!

If it is called civil war, then we all know where we stand...rather than trying to skirt round the issues

[gabaston]

dhavlos

you'd be amazed, why? because a civil war would go some way in justifying guarantor power intervention.

[turkcyp]

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