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Postby yialousa1971 » Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:30 pm

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yialousa1971 wrote:Monday, 7 September 2009
Fanoulla Argyrous reply to Sir David Hannay's latest article on Cyprus.

You can find the latest provocative article on AGORA http://agora-dialogue.com/?p=868

Sir David Hannay is indeed consistent with his role as representative of the pro-Turkish British Foreign Office policy over Cyprus. He was the one who excluded the british bases from the EU 1970s (during Britain's membership with the EEC then) and 1990s (when Cyprus's application came back) and promoted the notorious Annan Plan in favour of Turkey. The Turkish demand for a Bizonal Bicommunal Federation was promoted by James Callaghan from August 1974 and he even sent a massive delegate to Washington to ask Kissinger for his support for it (meeting took place 27/8/1974). Gl. Clerides was chosen by Callaghan to push it through through thick and thin even by blackmailing Makarios. Support for Clerides and his British mandate came from AKEL hence Clerides arranged WITH THE COOPERATION OF Sir Olver (British H.Commissioner at the time in Cyprus) for Papaioannou and Fantis in November 1974 to visit London (they were flown from Akrotiri) so that they could PERSUADE Makarios to accept Clerides's demand for consent for a geographical federation (i.e. bizonal as R. Denktash demanded). Therefore no surprises there for Hannay and his lot being over optimistic for a solution so soon with president Christofias on board. However, they should never put the cart before the horse. The Greek people of Cyprus rejected their anathema in 2004 and they will do the same again. We are not going to surrender our country, our rights, our properties, our Churches, our memories neither for Hannay and his lot nor any of our lot to that matter that supports them so that they can de-criminise Turkey and facilitate her EU entry. We say NO. WE DO NOT FORGET THE THIEVES, INVADERS, RAPISTS, MURDERERS OF OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND SNATCHERS OF OUR LAND.

http://freedom4cyprus.blogspot.com/2009/09/fanoulla-argyrous-reply-to-sir-david.html


wow... Did you write this, yialousa?


Please answer my question. Would this be you, yialousa? Or your mum?


What you thinking of trying to chat me up. :shock: Now who are you saying is me?
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Postby The Cypriot » Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:33 pm

yialousa1971 wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:Monday, 7 September 2009
Fanoulla Argyrous reply to Sir David Hannay's latest article on Cyprus.

You can find the latest provocative article on AGORA http://agora-dialogue.com/?p=868

Sir David Hannay is indeed consistent with his role as representative of the pro-Turkish British Foreign Office policy over Cyprus. He was the one who excluded the british bases from the EU 1970s (during Britain's membership with the EEC then) and 1990s (when Cyprus's application came back) and promoted the notorious Annan Plan in favour of Turkey. The Turkish demand for a Bizonal Bicommunal Federation was promoted by James Callaghan from August 1974 and he even sent a massive delegate to Washington to ask Kissinger for his support for it (meeting took place 27/8/1974). Gl. Clerides was chosen by Callaghan to push it through through thick and thin even by blackmailing Makarios. Support for Clerides and his British mandate came from AKEL hence Clerides arranged WITH THE COOPERATION OF Sir Olver (British H.Commissioner at the time in Cyprus) for Papaioannou and Fantis in November 1974 to visit London (they were flown from Akrotiri) so that they could PERSUADE Makarios to accept Clerides's demand for consent for a geographical federation (i.e. bizonal as R. Denktash demanded). Therefore no surprises there for Hannay and his lot being over optimistic for a solution so soon with president Christofias on board. However, they should never put the cart before the horse. The Greek people of Cyprus rejected their anathema in 2004 and they will do the same again. We are not going to surrender our country, our rights, our properties, our Churches, our memories neither for Hannay and his lot nor any of our lot to that matter that supports them so that they can de-criminise Turkey and facilitate her EU entry. We say NO. WE DO NOT FORGET THE THIEVES, INVADERS, RAPISTS, MURDERERS OF OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND SNATCHERS OF OUR LAND.

http://freedom4cyprus.blogspot.com/2009/09/fanoulla-argyrous-reply-to-sir-david.html


wow... Did you write this, yialousa?


Please answer my question. Would this be you, yialousa? Or your mum?


What you thinking of trying to chat me up. :shock: Now who are you saying is me?


The person who wrote the article.
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Postby yialousa1971 » Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:35 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:Monday, 7 September 2009
Fanoulla Argyrous reply to Sir David Hannay's latest article on Cyprus.

You can find the latest provocative article on AGORA http://agora-dialogue.com/?p=868

Sir David Hannay is indeed consistent with his role as representative of the pro-Turkish British Foreign Office policy over Cyprus. He was the one who excluded the british bases from the EU 1970s (during Britain's membership with the EEC then) and 1990s (when Cyprus's application came back) and promoted the notorious Annan Plan in favour of Turkey. The Turkish demand for a Bizonal Bicommunal Federation was promoted by James Callaghan from August 1974 and he even sent a massive delegate to Washington to ask Kissinger for his support for it (meeting took place 27/8/1974). Gl. Clerides was chosen by Callaghan to push it through through thick and thin even by blackmailing Makarios. Support for Clerides and his British mandate came from AKEL hence Clerides arranged WITH THE COOPERATION OF Sir Olver (British H.Commissioner at the time in Cyprus) for Papaioannou and Fantis in November 1974 to visit London (they were flown from Akrotiri) so that they could PERSUADE Makarios to accept Clerides's demand for consent for a geographical federation (i.e. bizonal as R. Denktash demanded). Therefore no surprises there for Hannay and his lot being over optimistic for a solution so soon with president Christofias on board. However, they should never put the cart before the horse. The Greek people of Cyprus rejected their anathema in 2004 and they will do the same again. We are not going to surrender our country, our rights, our properties, our Churches, our memories neither for Hannay and his lot nor any of our lot to that matter that supports them so that they can de-criminise Turkey and facilitate her EU entry. We say NO. WE DO NOT FORGET THE THIEVES, INVADERS, RAPISTS, MURDERERS OF OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND SNATCHERS OF OUR LAND.

http://freedom4cyprus.blogspot.com/2009/09/fanoulla-argyrous-reply-to-sir-david.html


wow... Did you write this, yialousa?


Please answer my question. Would this be you, yialousa? Or your mum?


What you thinking of trying to chat me up. :shock: Now who are you saying is me?


The person who wrote the article.


You mean Fanoulla Argyrous?
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Postby The Cypriot » Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:00 pm

yialousa1971 wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:Monday, 7 September 2009
Fanoulla Argyrous reply to Sir David Hannay's latest article on Cyprus.

You can find the latest provocative article on AGORA http://agora-dialogue.com/?p=868

Sir David Hannay is indeed consistent with his role as representative of the pro-Turkish British Foreign Office policy over Cyprus. He was the one who excluded the british bases from the EU 1970s (during Britain's membership with the EEC then) and 1990s (when Cyprus's application came back) and promoted the notorious Annan Plan in favour of Turkey. The Turkish demand for a Bizonal Bicommunal Federation was promoted by James Callaghan from August 1974 and he even sent a massive delegate to Washington to ask Kissinger for his support for it (meeting took place 27/8/1974). Gl. Clerides was chosen by Callaghan to push it through through thick and thin even by blackmailing Makarios. Support for Clerides and his British mandate came from AKEL hence Clerides arranged WITH THE COOPERATION OF Sir Olver (British H.Commissioner at the time in Cyprus) for Papaioannou and Fantis in November 1974 to visit London (they were flown from Akrotiri) so that they could PERSUADE Makarios to accept Clerides's demand for consent for a geographical federation (i.e. bizonal as R. Denktash demanded). Therefore no surprises there for Hannay and his lot being over optimistic for a solution so soon with president Christofias on board. However, they should never put the cart before the horse. The Greek people of Cyprus rejected their anathema in 2004 and they will do the same again. We are not going to surrender our country, our rights, our properties, our Churches, our memories neither for Hannay and his lot nor any of our lot to that matter that supports them so that they can de-criminise Turkey and facilitate her EU entry. We say NO. WE DO NOT FORGET THE THIEVES, INVADERS, RAPISTS, MURDERERS OF OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND SNATCHERS OF OUR LAND.

http://freedom4cyprus.blogspot.com/2009/09/fanoulla-argyrous-reply-to-sir-david.html


wow... Did you write this, yialousa?


Please answer my question. Would this be you, yialousa? Or your mum?


What you thinking of trying to chat me up. :shock: Now who are you saying is me?


The person who wrote the article.


You mean Fanoulla Argyrous?


Jesus, it's like spoon-feeding a baby... Yes Orphanoulla Argyrou.... aghu do moro! Is that you or your mum?
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Postby yialousa1971 » Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:07 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:Monday, 7 September 2009
Fanoulla Argyrous reply to Sir David Hannay's latest article on Cyprus.

You can find the latest provocative article on AGORA http://agora-dialogue.com/?p=868

Sir David Hannay is indeed consistent with his role as representative of the pro-Turkish British Foreign Office policy over Cyprus. He was the one who excluded the british bases from the EU 1970s (during Britain's membership with the EEC then) and 1990s (when Cyprus's application came back) and promoted the notorious Annan Plan in favour of Turkey. The Turkish demand for a Bizonal Bicommunal Federation was promoted by James Callaghan from August 1974 and he even sent a massive delegate to Washington to ask Kissinger for his support for it (meeting took place 27/8/1974). Gl. Clerides was chosen by Callaghan to push it through through thick and thin even by blackmailing Makarios. Support for Clerides and his British mandate came from AKEL hence Clerides arranged WITH THE COOPERATION OF Sir Olver (British H.Commissioner at the time in Cyprus) for Papaioannou and Fantis in November 1974 to visit London (they were flown from Akrotiri) so that they could PERSUADE Makarios to accept Clerides's demand for consent for a geographical federation (i.e. bizonal as R. Denktash demanded). Therefore no surprises there for Hannay and his lot being over optimistic for a solution so soon with president Christofias on board. However, they should never put the cart before the horse. The Greek people of Cyprus rejected their anathema in 2004 and they will do the same again. We are not going to surrender our country, our rights, our properties, our Churches, our memories neither for Hannay and his lot nor any of our lot to that matter that supports them so that they can de-criminise Turkey and facilitate her EU entry. We say NO. WE DO NOT FORGET THE THIEVES, INVADERS, RAPISTS, MURDERERS OF OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND SNATCHERS OF OUR LAND.

http://freedom4cyprus.blogspot.com/2009/09/fanoulla-argyrous-reply-to-sir-david.html


wow... Did you write this, yialousa?


Please answer my question. Would this be you, yialousa? Or your mum?


What you thinking of trying to chat me up. :shock: Now who are you saying is me?


The person who wrote the article.


You mean Fanoulla Argyrous?


Jesus, it's like spoon-feeding a baby... Yes Orphanoulla Argyrou.... aghu do moro! Is that you or your mum?


Looks whos talking, I'm a fucking Man! So how can it be me and its not my mum either! :roll:
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Postby The Cypriot » Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:30 pm

yialousa1971 wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
You mean Fanoulla Argyrous?


Jesus, it's like spoon-feeding a baby... Yes Orphanoulla Argyrou.... aghu do moro! Is that you or your mum?


Looks whos talking, I'm a fucking Man! So how can it be me and its not my mum either! :roll:


Hmmm...
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Is she your aunt? Your gran?
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Postby yialousa1971 » Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:03 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
You mean Fanoulla Argyrous?


Jesus, it's like spoon-feeding a baby... Yes Orphanoulla Argyrou.... aghu do moro! Is that you or your mum?


Looks whos talking, I'm a fucking Man! So how can it be me and its not my mum either! :roll:


Hmmm...
Image

Is she your aunt? Your gran?


Keep thinking it keeps you out of my hair. :wink:
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Postby yialousa1971 » Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:06 pm

Cyprus mediator Alexander Downer is spy
In light of the recent discussions, speculations and threats (by Turkey) about the potentially large hydrocarbon deposits south of Cyprus it is probably worth referring to an article titled, “The Mediator who is a Spy” written by Angelos Athanasopoulos that was published in the Greek newspaper, To Vima late last year. The article can be accessed here.http://www.tovima.gr/default.asp?pid=2&ct=32&artId=24349&dt=23/11/2008

As most people will know, the former Australian foreign minister, Alexander Downer was appointed as the Special Envoy of the UN Secretary General for Cyprus in 2007. Essentially, he has been working as a mediator between the two negotiating parties that are trying to figure out a solution following the Turkish invasion of the island a little more than 35 years ago.

Interestingly, Alexander Downer has since May 2008 been working for the British company, Hakluyt & Co. This company was founded in the 1990s by former MI6 agents to provide strategic intelligence/information to multinational corporations that want to invest in areas where the political and economic environment is unstable; of course, with a view to profit.

Despite being founded by former British former secret service agents Hakluyt is increasingly comprised of former politicians, diplomats and people in general with access to political, economic and business centers of power. As the former foreign minister of Australia, Alexander Downer would have supervised the intelligence services of Australia and had direct access to “hot” information. Obviously, he still has friends both inside and outside Australia.

To Vima contacted Hakluyt last year and a company executive, who wished to remain anonymous, confirmed that Alexander Downer was working on behalf of them; and in particular, as a member of the Advisory Council. He also stated that members of the Advisory Council, "are either not paid or receive a token amount". He also stated that members do "not make their living from this job". In Cyprus, Alexander Downer was asked directly about his role and the membership of Hakluyt, and he answered:
I do not know where all the members working for the company come from, nor am I responsible for these members. I am a member of the Advisory Council, I meet with members of the Council once a year and provide perspectives on the situation of different regions such as Asia.
Athanasopoulos then raises some important questions, which have recently become even more relevant, as speculation over the hydrocarbon deposits has increased:

However, questions arise from the activities of the Special Envoy of the UN Secretary-General on Cyprus. Because of his role, Mr Downer has access to confidential information which would be useful to many. Does he only inform the United Nations and the parties in Cyprus or does he inform others? And who are they? Moreover, how will the actual negotiations on the Cyprus issue be influenced by the dual activities of Downer?

If Hakluyt provides information to businesses so they can reduce investment risk, the presence of Downer could affect, for example, the activity of oil companies interested in undertaking investigations into suspected continental shelf deposits off the coast of Cyprus? Moreover, the relationship of Hakluyt with giants such as BP and Shell could easily lead to such suspicions.

Athanasopoulos then goes on to provide information on the the identity of Hakluyt. General information can be found here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakluyt_&_Company (the company's website does not really contain any information). He also states that the people who have worked for Hakluyt are long and illustrious. Alarmingly, but perhaps not surprisingly, in 1997, just two years after the company's establishment, the current foreign minister of Sweden, Carl Bildt also became a member. Hellenic Antidote recently provided some interesting information on the odious Bildt and his rabidly pro-Turkish positions which can be accessed here http://hellenicantidote.blogspot.com/2009/07/sweden-toes-turkish-line.html. Also, Athanasopoulos points out, and certainly not surprisingly, the former U.S. Secretary of State, Henry Kissinger and his firm Kissinger Associates have also worked with Hakluyt. Every Greek should know about Kissinger's evil and his role in the dismemberment of the island.

Source: To Vima (Angelos Athanasopoulos), Antipodes
Posted by Antipodean at 7:09 PM
Tuesday, July 28, 2009
http://antipodes-antipodean.blogspot.com/2009/07/cyprus-mediator-alexander-downer-is-spy.html
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Postby insan » Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:15 pm

Cyprus mediator Alexander Downer is spy
In light of the recent discussions, speculations and threats (by Turkey) about the potentially large hydrocarbon deposits south of Cyprus it is probably worth referring to an article titled, “The Mediator who is a Spy” written by Angelos Athanasopoulos that was published in the Greek newspaper, To Vima late last year. The article can be accessed here.http://www.tovima.gr/default.asp?pid=2& ... 23/11/2008
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What measures have the protectors of Hellenism taken against this ozzie spy? Imediately, convey the message to Bafidi the ozzie. :lol:
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Postby The Cypriot » Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:15 pm

yialousa1971 wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
You mean Fanoulla Argyrous?


Jesus, it's like spoon-feeding a baby... Yes Orphanoulla Argyrou.... aghu do moro! Is that you or your mum?


Looks whos talking, I'm a fucking Man! So how can it be me and its not my mum either! :roll:


Hmmm...
Image

Is she your aunt? Your gran?


Keep thinking it keeps you out of my hair. :wink:


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