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Who were the Phoenicians?

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Postby Simon » Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:24 pm

Get Real! wrote:
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Get Real! wrote:
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Get Real! wrote:Give it up Paphitis, because it’s by no accident that Cypriots and the Lebanese look so much alike and have always been so close (not just geographically close). :)


Agreed!

It is also no accident that Hellenism is the one and only surviving influence in Cyprus... :wink: So why is that so? :)

You also can't differentiate between a Greek or Cypriot, apart from dialect. And even that is not so between Cypriots and Greeks from Crete, Rhodos and Kos.


You mean like the “Hellenic” alphabet/language which came from…

Phoenician -> Cypriot - > Greek

:lol:


More accurately described as:

Phoenician -> Greek Cyprus -> rest of Greek world

Rubbish! There’s no such thing as “Greek Cyprus”, and whoever heard of “rest of Greek world”? You’ve got some serious delusions Simon! :lol:


Of course there was such a thing as Greek Cyprus you nincompoop!

And the rest of the Greek world refers to Greek colonies scattered all over the Mediterranean in ancient times. You patently need to educate yourself before you attempt to educate others!
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Re: Who were the Phoenicians?

Postby Piratis » Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:25 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Piratis wrote:Who made such claim?

Yialousa, and that Tsokos girl.

There’s no such thing as “Greek Cyprus”


Cyprus is as Greek as any other Greek island or Greek territory.

It’s all in your head Piratis… you're imagining things.


GR, as you know everything that I say is historical facts, and nothing is based on mere imagination.

And just to be clear, Cyprus being Hellenic doesn't depend on Cyprus being part of the Republic of Greece, neither it means Cyprus should necessarily be part of Republic of Greece.

The same way that there are several Slavic states or Turkic states, there can just as easily be several Hellenic states.

For example just because in Asia Minor there is a state called "Turkey" this doesn't mean that no other state can be Turkic. In fact it doesn't even mean that Turkey is the most "authentic" Turkic state.
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Postby Simon » Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:29 pm

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If the point that you are trying to make is that in Cyprus people existed and exist who are not Greek, then you are really not telling us anything new or extraordinary. There are very few places in our world which are inhabited exclusively by just one ethnicity.


That is the only point he is ever trying to make, as if it makes a difference to anything!

Further, he often contradicts himself, because even he acknowledges on his website that Mycenaean settlers colonised Cyprus, and yet here, he calls it all mythology. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Who were the Phoenicians?

Postby Get Real! » Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:34 pm

Piratis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Piratis wrote:Who made such claim?

Yialousa, and that Tsokos girl.

There’s no such thing as “Greek Cyprus”


Cyprus is as Greek as any other Greek island or Greek territory.

It’s all in your head Piratis… you're imagining things.


GR, as you know everything that I say is historical facts, and nothing is based on mere imagination.

Now that’s a HUGE statement! :lol:


And just to be clear, Cyprus being Hellenic doesn't depend on Cyprus being part of the Republic of Greece, neither it means Cyprus should necessarily be part of Republic of Greece.

The same way that there are several Slavic states or Turkic states, there can just as easily be several Hellenic states.

For example just because in Asia Minor there is a state called "Turkey" this doesn't mean that no other state can be Turkic. In fact it doesn't even mean that Turkey is the most "authentic" Turkic state.

I’ll tell you what Piratis, be my guest and prove that “Cyprus is Greek”!
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Re: Who were the Phoenicians?

Postby EPSILON » Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:04 pm

Piratis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Piratis wrote:Who made such claim?

Yialousa, and that Tsokos girl.

There’s no such thing as “Greek Cyprus”


Cyprus is as Greek as any other Greek island or Greek territory.

It’s all in your head Piratis… you're imagining things.


GR, as you know everything that I say is historical facts, and nothing is based on mere imagination.

And just to be clear, Cyprus being Hellenic doesn't depend on Cyprus being part of the Republic of Greece, neither it means Cyprus should necessarily be part of Republic of Greece.

The same way that there are several Slavic states or Turkic states, there can just as easily be several Hellenic states.

For example just because in Asia Minor there is a state called "Turkey" this doesn't mean that no other state can be Turkic. In fact it doesn't even mean that Turkey is the most "authentic" Turkic state.


Do not try my friend- Many tried to reverse "genitsarous" nobody succeeded. The bigger enemy is Cyprus are not Turks (they are number 2)
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Re: Who were the Phoenicians?

Postby EPSILON » Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:50 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Piratis wrote:Who made such claim?

Yialousa, and that Tsokos girl.

There’s no such thing as “Greek Cyprus”


Cyprus is as Greek as any other Greek island or Greek territory.

It’s all in your head Piratis… you're imagining things.


GR, as you know everything that I say is historical facts, and nothing is based on mere imagination.

Now that’s a HUGE statement! :lol:


And just to be clear, Cyprus being Hellenic doesn't depend on Cyprus being part of the Republic of Greece, neither it means Cyprus should necessarily be part of Republic of Greece.

The same way that there are several Slavic states or Turkic states, there can just as easily be several Hellenic states.

For example just because in Asia Minor there is a state called "Turkey" this doesn't mean that no other state can be Turkic. In fact it doesn't even mean that Turkey is the most "authentic" Turkic state.

I’ll tell you what Piratis, be my guest and prove that “Cyprus is Greek”!


Cyprus re Mongole is not Greek on terms of territory of Greek republic- Cyprus is on "popularity" terms of Greek cultured people who must insist in this in order to survive.
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Postby Oracle » Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:51 pm

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yialousa1971 wrote:Only idiots use Wiki links. :cry:

Did you skip the whole National Geographic article and went to the last line? :lol:


Just like you skipped the NG article and jumped to your own conclusions!

So where is ANY DNA data from the NG to back-up your claims that Cyprus' traditional history is a Myth?

Remember, the data gathered on other groups, so far, confirms the records we already have about migrating groups of the last ~20,000 years!
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Re: Who were the Phoenicians?

Postby The Cypriot » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:20 pm

EPSILON wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Piratis wrote:Who made such claim?

Yialousa, and that Tsokos girl.

There’s no such thing as “Greek Cyprus”


Cyprus is as Greek as any other Greek island or Greek territory.

It’s all in your head Piratis… you're imagining things.


GR, as you know everything that I say is historical facts, and nothing is based on mere imagination.

And just to be clear, Cyprus being Hellenic doesn't depend on Cyprus being part of the Republic of Greece, neither it means Cyprus should necessarily be part of Republic of Greece.

The same way that there are several Slavic states or Turkic states, there can just as easily be several Hellenic states.

For example just because in Asia Minor there is a state called "Turkey" this doesn't mean that no other state can be Turkic. In fact it doesn't even mean that Turkey is the most "authentic" Turkic state.


Do not try my friend- Many tried to reverse "genitsarous" nobody succeeded. The bigger enemy is Cyprus are not Turks (they are number 2)


No Epsilon,

No. 3 are the Turks.
No. 2 are the communists, remember?
No. 1 (in Epsilon's enemies of Cyprus charts) are, wait for it, the treacherous Cypriots themselves.
(Does someone in Athens pay you to come here and offer us these pearls of wisdom?)
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Re: Who were the Phoenicians?

Postby Oracle » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:26 pm

Get Real! wrote:Who were the Phoenicians?

We know they dominated sea trade in the Mediterranean for 3,000 years. Now DNA testing and recent archaeological finds are revealing just what the Phoenician legacy meant to the ancient world—and to our own.


Where is the evidence for that?
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Re: Who were the Phoenicians?

Postby Oracle » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:28 pm

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Although they're mentioned frequently in ancient texts as vigorous traders and sailors, we know relatively little about these puzzling people. .


So, why do they escape your "Mythological" spectrum with so few records?
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