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Definition of a Cypriot (Take II)

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

What's your definition of a Cypriot?

Someone who puts Cyprus and all its legitimate people ahead of all other considerations
7
19%
Someone who (thinks he/she) is Greek really but comes from Cyprus
1
3%
Someone from Cyprus who isn't Turkish/Muslim
1
3%
Someone who says they're Cypriot but only to give Turkey influence on the island
1
3%
Someone who has a Cypriot passport. It's a nationality only.
9
24%
A Greek Cypriot only
3
8%
A Greek or Turkish Cypriot
11
30%
Someone who can't do polls on the CF properly (go gently on me)
4
11%
 
Total votes : 37

Postby The Cypriot » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:38 pm

insan wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Oracle wrote:I voted for someone who is not "Turkish".

At the moment they are the enemy occupants and so should not be given citizenship/Cypriot Nationality, even if applying in some legitimate capacity (standard practice during war, I think).

The "Muslim" bit was superfluous as Cypriot citizens are not defined by their religion.


So where does that leave my friend Kikapu? He is Cypriot of Turkish origin, but his allegiance is towards justice, and hence with the RoC and against Turkey.


Kikapu isn't "Turkish".... (as far as I can gather, from his posts)


No of course he's not. He's Cypriot. Like you.


He many times defined himself as a Turkish Cypriot...


I don't think you believe "Turkish" and "Turkish Cypriot" are the same thing and I certainly don't. I believe Kikapu is Cypriot, according to this definition:

• Someone who puts Cyprus and all its legitimate people ahead of all other considerations

In fact, in that respect, perhaps he's more of a Cypriot (IMHO) than O, who defines Cypriot as:

• Someone from Cyprus who isn't Turkish/Muslim
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Postby zan » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:59 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
insan wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Oracle wrote:I voted for someone who is not "Turkish".

At the moment they are the enemy occupants and so should not be given citizenship/Cypriot Nationality, even if applying in some legitimate capacity (standard practice during war, I think).

The "Muslim" bit was superfluous as Cypriot citizens are not defined by their religion.


So where does that leave my friend Kikapu? He is Cypriot of Turkish origin, but his allegiance is towards justice, and hence with the RoC and against Turkey.


Kikapu isn't "Turkish".... (as far as I can gather, from his posts)


No of course he's not. He's Cypriot. Like you.


He many times defined himself as a Turkish Cypriot...


I don't think you believe "Turkish" and "Turkish Cypriot" are the same thing and I certainly don't. I believe Kikapu is Cypriot, according to this definition:

• Someone who puts Cyprus and all its legitimate people ahead of all other considerations

In fact, in that respect, perhaps he's more of a Cypriot (IMHO) than O, who defines Cypriot as:

• Someone from Cyprus who isn't Turkish/Muslim



That definition does not hold water under scrutiny mate....Do you mean someone like Makarios who tried to kill, maim or dislodge one third of "Cypriots"???

How about Tpap who wrote the Akritas plan.....


Well! They both fit into my first post on this thread anyway.....


My feet are firmly planted across the water..The name gives it away...Turkish CYpriot....Both a part of me.
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Postby insan » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:59 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
insan wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Oracle wrote:I voted for someone who is not "Turkish".

At the moment they are the enemy occupants and so should not be given citizenship/Cypriot Nationality, even if applying in some legitimate capacity (standard practice during war, I think).

The "Muslim" bit was superfluous as Cypriot citizens are not defined by their religion.


So where does that leave my friend Kikapu? He is Cypriot of Turkish origin, but his allegiance is towards justice, and hence with the RoC and against Turkey.


Kikapu isn't "Turkish".... (as far as I can gather, from his posts)


No of course he's not. He's Cypriot. Like you.


He many times defined himself as a Turkish Cypriot...


I don't think you believe "Turkish" and "Turkish Cypriot" are the same thing and I certainly don't. I believe Kikapu is Cypriot, according to this definition:

• Someone who puts Cyprus and all its legitimate people ahead of all other considerations

In fact, in that respect, perhaps he's more of a Cypriot (IMHO) than O, who defines Cypriot as:

• Someone from Cyprus who isn't Turkish/Muslim


If there has been a nation called Cypriot, I would have been a part of it... Since there is no nation called Cypriot, I consider myself belonged to Turkish nation.

I can't put all of Cyprus legitimate people ahead of all other consideration while I'm aware of there has never been common national interests of Greek speaking people of Cyprus and Turkish speakin people of Cyprus.

Each has their own "national" interests. National here refers to Greek or Turkish.

These r the facts. The Cypriot, u need to born and maintain ur life in Cyprus in order to be able to understand the meaning of being a Cypriot, then maybe u could recommend others to become a Cypriot.


To be Cypriot…

To be Cypriot…

The year is 1976… Having just been elected as the CTP leader, Ozker Ozgur gave a speech at the end of which he sent out the message for unity-soldarity-struggle with the ‘Brother Party AKEL’ and expressed the hope for the unification of Cyprus…
At the time, the AKEL leader was Ezekias Papayuannu and he also would constantly refer to the CTP as the ‘Brother Party’…
The yr is 1989… The Czech Ambassador to Nicosia has invited those leaders who were unable to meet in Cyprus, to Prague where he had organized a joint meeting…
I observed that meeting from start to finish…
Ozker Ozgur, Mustafa Akinci and Ismet Kotak were amongst the Turkish Cypriot politicians…
Dimitris Hristofoyas, Glafkos Klerides, Tassos Papadopoulos and Dr. Vassos Lissardis were amongst the Greek Cypriot politicians…
As always, Lissaridis created a crisis during the meeting with his negative attitude…
On the first day when the meeting broke up for lunch, Tassos Papadopoulos spread the ‘Republic of Cyprus’ flag he had brought with him on his table, thereby makin it impossible for the Turkish Cypriot politicans to remain there at the table…
The Turkish Cypriot politicians reacted, saying: “In our opinion, the Republic of Cyprus was destroyed in 1963. Since we are now discussing a bizonal, bicommunal federal state, what’s the point of putting the Republic of Cyprus flag on the table?”
Following this reaction, Papadopoulos’s flag was kept away from the dinner table on the remaining days of the meeting….
The warmest rapprochement between the Turkish and Greek Cypriot politicians was between Christofias and Ozgur and Klerides and Akinci….
Christofias’s and Ozgur’s rooms were next to one another and everyone was curious as to whether this was a coincidence or if it had been arranged on purpose by the organizer, Czechoslovakia…
As far as I know, the AKEL-CTP relationship didn’t continue only when Ozker Ozgur was the CTP leader but also during the period when Mehmet Ali Talat was the party leader…
There has been no disagreement come to light between the current CTP leader Ferdi Sabit Soyer and Christofias, or between Talat and Christofias…
That is, until AKEL came to power in the South and the CTP in the North…
When both parties were in the opposition the stated aim of both was settlement…
There was a consesus of views on the issue that a settlement should be based on a bizonal, bicommunal federal settlement on the basis of the Denktas-Makarios and Denktas-Kiprianou high level arrangements…
In the event of AKEL coming to power in the South and the CTP in the North, a promise had been made that the two parties would fight together for a settlement…
In the South, AKEL came to power with DIKO and EDEK…
In the North, the CTP came to power with the DP…
Despite strong opposition from former leader Rauf Denktas and the National Unity Party, the CTP leadership succeeded in carrying the Tirkish Cypriot people to the refferendum and to voting in affirmation of the Annan Plan…
Whereas AKEL at first wanted to postpone the referendum and then rejected it outright…
As a result of which, Cyprus was not reunited…
Tens of thousands of people were left unable to return to their homes, property and land…
Despite saying that if some ‘small changes’ were made to the Annan Plan, it could again be put to a referendum, AKEL has not even managed to achieve this in a period of nearly 21 months….
We are now faced with the elections for the Representatives Assembly…
It’s the first time that AKEL has been so distant from the CTP…
Whereas DISI is approaching the CTP in a way that we have never seen or anticipated before…
Last Wednesday night they organized a joint concert at the Melina Merkouri hall…
On Monday night the same concert will be repeated at the Near East University…
The Cyprus problem remains unresolved…
The Ledra wall is still there…
Yesterday’s so-called ‘Brother Parties’ are now sharing today’s leadership!
Is it easy to be a Cypriot?
Is it easy?

Resat Akar
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Postby EPSILON » Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:08 pm

zan wrote:
EPSILON wrote:
zan wrote:
EPSILON wrote:
zan wrote:Do I get a prize for being profound and not voting..Huh huh huh!!!!!!

Zan. i have free tickets for Hitler's grave....


I told you that subscription would pay off....Have you put them up on ebay yet????


The funny thing is that they are going to put us in the same grave!!!


I probably know the answer to this but ...Why?


For the simple reason we know exactly who we are- many others can not affort this since they are just copies!!!
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Postby EPSILON » Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:10 pm

insan wrote:
EPSILON wrote:
insan wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
insan wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:For the 27% (so far) who define a Cypriot as either a "Greek Cypriot" or "Turkish Cypriot" and the 16% (so far) who define Cypriot as a "Greek Cypriot only" here's some information about your country's traditional ethnic/religious minorities.

Maronite Cypriot Community
http://www.cyprus.gov.cy/portal%5Cporta ... t=maronite
You have overlooked at least 2,800 of these Cypriot citizens.

Armenian Cypriot Community
http://www.cyprus.gov.cy/portal%5Cporta ... t=armenian
http://www.hayem.org/
You have overlooked at least 2,500 of these Cypriot citizens.

Latin Cypriot Community
http://www.cyprus.gov.cy/portal/portal. ... ection=2.4
You have overlooked at least 700 of these Cypriot citizens.


Imo, u overlooked them by not mentioning them in ur poll options.


Oh, so it's my fault people don't put the interests of all the island's people first.


The interests of bloody blue blooded vips come first on both sides of the island.

The rest r so-called step blood brothers under 2 main "umbreallas" which they placed themselves depending their lowly interests.


Insan, this is an internal problem - pls try to not involve/tks


Epsilon, it's u foolishly r trying to convince some people of Cyprus that they r Greek descendants. It is a well known fact that vast majority of GCs consider themselves as a part of Greek nation.

I have respect to those who don't consider themselves as a part of Greek or Turkish nation, be it Armenians, Latins, Maronits, Pontians, Russians etc or so-called Cypriots that r not culturally any type of Cypriot just so-called Cypriots.


I fully agree with you-this exactly what "Cypriot" means to me.
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Postby halil » Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:41 pm

Good evening from Amsterdam .......

have a good reading Cypriots .......... People are just laughing at you from Amsterdam ....... I see they says .... you will never have a agreement

http://dzforum.de/downloads/020101007.pdf
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Postby zan » Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:09 pm

EPSILON wrote:
zan wrote:
EPSILON wrote:
zan wrote:
EPSILON wrote:
zan wrote:Do I get a prize for being profound and not voting..Huh huh huh!!!!!!

Zan. i have free tickets for Hitler's grave....


I told you that subscription would pay off....Have you put them up on ebay yet????


The funny thing is that they are going to put us in the same grave!!!


I probably know the answer to this but ...Why?


For the simple reason we know exactly who we are- many others can not affort this since they are just copies!!!


Its more a case of not having a true Cypriot state to relate to for me....Like Insan says...My Cypriotness is to the soil.
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Postby The Cypriot » Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:07 pm

I see VP's voted:

• Someone who says they're Cypriot but only to give Turkey influence on the island: 4% [ 1 ]
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:02 pm

The Cypriot wrote:I see VP's voted:

• Someone who says they're Cypriot but only to give Turkey influence on the island: 4% [ 1 ]



WRONG.... :lol:
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Postby DT. » Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:47 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:I see VP's voted:

• Someone who says they're Cypriot but only to give Turkey influence on the island: 4% [ 1 ]



WRONG.... :lol:


that was me actually :oops: :lol:
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