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Definition of a Cypriot (Take II)

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

What's your definition of a Cypriot?

Someone who puts Cyprus and all its legitimate people ahead of all other considerations
7
19%
Someone who (thinks he/she) is Greek really but comes from Cyprus
1
3%
Someone from Cyprus who isn't Turkish/Muslim
1
3%
Someone who says they're Cypriot but only to give Turkey influence on the island
1
3%
Someone who has a Cypriot passport. It's a nationality only.
9
24%
A Greek Cypriot only
3
8%
A Greek or Turkish Cypriot
11
30%
Someone who can't do polls on the CF properly (go gently on me)
4
11%
 
Total votes : 37

Postby Get Real! » Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:58 am

Paphitis wrote:You should see the new thread I am working on about midget pigmy homosexual Choirokitians as evidenced from various pornographic sculptures performing sodomy.... :lol:

Midget pigmy? Did you use a microscope to observe that? :lol:

Sounds promising! 8)
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:05 am

alexISS wrote:Big surprise, you did it again. Your arguments are so weak you don't dare to put them to the test by actually discussing with those who disagree. You simply spit them out and ignore what everyone else says. You'll have to get much wittier and better educated to sustain such arrogance

On a serious note...

Just keep in mind Alexis, that there’s only one of me and there’s usually anything from 3 to 6 of you, so I can’t possibly respond to everything that gets thrown at me!
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Postby alexISS » Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:17 am

Then you should respond selectively to the most educated arguments.
A while ago I read a post by Simon where he quoted foreign travellers from the 14th and 15th century who spoke of the "Greeks of Cyprus". That was a great counter argument to your theory of Cypriots being only recently acquainted with Hellenism. Unless I missed it, you didn't say a word. You are not debating, you are "propagating"
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Postby Omer Seyhan » Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:35 am

Let me ask a general question: A road sweeper claims with prideness that he has had the same broom throughout his 30 year job. But in this time, he has fitted a new brush 47 times and replaced the stick no less than 49 times. He is adamant that he is using the same brush because it shares certain characteristics with the original, but is it the same brush?
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Postby alexISS » Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:43 am

Omer Seyhan wrote:Let me ask a general question: A road sweeper claims with prideness that he has had the same broom throughout his 30 year job. But in this time, he has fitted a new brush 47 times and replaced the stick no less than 49 times. He is adamant that he is using the same brush because it shares certain characteristics with the original, but is it the same brush?


Following the same logic, every single cell of your body has been replaced the last twenty years. Are you not you anymore?
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Postby Omer Seyhan » Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:45 am

alexISS wrote:Then you should respond selectively to the most educated arguments.
A while ago I read a post by Simon where he quoted foreign travellers from the 14th and 15th century who spoke of the "Greeks of Cyprus". That was a great counter argument to your theory of Cypriots being only recently acquainted with Hellenism. Unless I missed it, you didn't say a word. You are not debating, you are "propagating"


The reliability of travelogues is questionable. It's like taking Bill Bryson to the mountain tribes of Papua New Guinea and relying on his account. I m not surprised experts would not even touch it.
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Postby The Cypriot » Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:46 am

Paphitis wrote:The Cypriot wrote:
And bloomin' Albanians too! Sheesh.


So what?

Are you a Nazi?


:roll: Are you a schoolboy?

Paphitis wrote:Perhaps you could do one better and stop pestering Hellene Cypriots (Cypriots who believe they are Greek). It's the least you could do.


Pestering them? This is a forum. We're testing theories; exchanging views; discussing ideas. Identity is an aspect of the Cyprus problem, some might argue an important aspect. What are we to do? Brush it under the carpet in case we might upset people's sensibilities? It's akin to not being able to discuss the life of the historical Jesus in case we might offend Christians.
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Postby alexISS » Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:48 am

Omer Seyhan wrote:
alexISS wrote:Then you should respond selectively to the most educated arguments.
A while ago I read a post by Simon where he quoted foreign travellers from the 14th and 15th century who spoke of the "Greeks of Cyprus". That was a great counter argument to your theory of Cypriots being only recently acquainted with Hellenism. Unless I missed it, you didn't say a word. You are not debating, you are "propagating"


The reliability of travelogues is questionable. It's like taking Bill Bryson to the mountain tribes of Papua New Guinea and relying on his account. I m not surprised experts would not even touch it.


What reason could those travelers have to name the Cyprus natives "Greeks" against their will? To support their union with the non existent Greek state? What would be a more accurate account of the national identity of Cypriots at the time?
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Postby Omer Seyhan » Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:50 am

alexISS wrote:
Omer Seyhan wrote:Let me ask a general question: A road sweeper claims with prideness that he has had the same broom throughout his 30 year job. But in this time, he has fitted a new brush 47 times and replaced the stick no less than 49 times. He is adamant that he is using the same brush because it shares certain characteristics with the original, but is it the same brush?


Following the same logic, every single cell of your body has been replaced the last twenty years. Are you not you anymore?



Yes but the biological source is the same. it's different to a broom whose first three sticks could have been made of juniper wood, the next four of pine and so on and so forth.... How many Lebanese and Egyptians did our people make babies with?
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Postby Omer Seyhan » Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:53 am

alexISS wrote:
Omer Seyhan wrote:
alexISS wrote:Then you should respond selectively to the most educated arguments.
A while ago I read a post by Simon where he quoted foreign travellers from the 14th and 15th century who spoke of the "Greeks of Cyprus". That was a great counter argument to your theory of Cypriots being only recently acquainted with Hellenism. Unless I missed it, you didn't say a word. You are not debating, you are "propagating"


The reliability of travelogues is questionable. It's like taking Bill Bryson to the mountain tribes of Papua New Guinea and relying on his account. I m not surprised experts would not even touch it.


What reason could those travelers have to name the Cyprus natives "Greeks" against their will? To support their union with the non existent Greek state? What would be a more accurate account of the national


identity of Cypriots at the time?



Ignorance my dear Alexis. Did travellers and indeed 'experts' not once believe that the Gypsies came from Egypt?
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