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[The Cypriot]

My point is and I cant believe you haven't got it, is that you cannot rely on a single ancestry! So your claim to be Greek is utter rubbish.

Oh-my-good-God...

[Omer Seyhan]

My point is and I cant believe you haven't got it, is that you cannot rely on a single ancestry! So your claim to be Greek is utter rubbish.

Oh-my-good-God...

Since it seems that Cypriots on this forum prefer to choose one of their possible historical origins and add it as a prefix to their identity, lets at least do it the correct way!

If you claim to be descended from the Myceneaens then I'm sorry but Greek Cypriot cannot be allowed as the Myceneans did not identify themselves as such. For the sake of accuracy you must say Myceneaen-Cypriot!

If you claim to be a Turkish Cypriot because you descend from the Ottomans, then you are wrong historically since the Ottomans never referred to themselves as Turks. In fact the term "Turk" was used as an insult by the Ottoman ruling elite. Again, for the sake of accuracy you can call yourself Ottoman-Cypriot!

Our Maronite friends will have to opt for Frankish-Phoenician-Maronite-Cypriots, while Armenians Cypriots who can trace 9th century origin have to opt for Cilician-Cypriot! Our Latin Cypriot brothers should adopt Venetian-Cypriot as their new name.

[Omer Seyhan]

Before some clever dick says "Oh but we are Greek Cypriots because we speak Greek..." let me ask you what you would call a Cypriot who speaks both Greek and Turkish, would you call him / her a Greco-Turkish Cypriot?

What if they spoke French and Russian too, a Russo-Franco-Greco-Turkish Cypriot?

And what if they only spoke English like most of our diaspora, would we call them Anglo-Cypriots?

And if they were from Liverpool, a Scouse-Cypriot?

[Oracle]

Time is running out for fairy-tales spun by Turks to lay claim to Cyprus and our history and remove our Greek connections. All the ethnographic data which is being released as it is done points to confirmation of the established, written and traditional records of migrations and ethnicities as we have understood them (in the West) for thousands of years.

Here is a typical example from THE most prestigious journal NATURE (EJHG) which shows how closely aligned the Cypriots and Greeks are and how far apart the Turks are to Cypriots and Greeks, falling more in line with Moroccans ....




Key:
CYP =Cypriot
GRE =Greek
ESic =Sicilian
LEB = Lebanese
MOR = Moroccan
ALG = Algerian
TUR = Turk

[insan]

My point is and I cant believe you haven't got it, is that you cannot rely on a single ancestry! So your claim to be Greek is utter rubbish.

Oh-my-good-God...

Since it seems that Cypriots on this forum prefer to choose one of their possible historical origins and add it as a prefix to their identity, lets at least do it the correct way!

If you claim to be descended from the Myceneaens then I'm sorry but Greek Cypriot cannot be allowed as the Myceneans did not identify themselves as such. For the sake of accuracy you must say Myceneaen-Cypriot!

If you claim to be a Turkish Cypriot because you descend from the Ottomans, then you are wrong historically since the Ottomans never referred to themselves as Turks. In fact the term "Turk" was used as an insult by the Ottoman ruling elite. Again, for the sake of accuracy you can call yourself Ottoman-Cypriot!

Our Maronite friends will have to opt for Frankish-Phoenician-Maronite-Cypriots, while Armenians Cypriots who can trace 9th century origin have to opt for Cilician-Cypriot! Our Latin Cypriot brothers should adopt Venetian-Cypriot as their new name.

Just use ur name, u don't need to use ur surname... why? What hurts u abt "surnames" of Cypriot communities?

Ottoman was the name of the empire but people of the nucleus of Ottoman family was Turkic descendant. Since "Turk" was used as an insult by the Ottoman ruling elite, whom they were proud of as their ancestors? All historians name them as Ottoman Turks.... Do TCs have to call themselves as Ottoman Turkish Cypriots? What's wrong with being called as Turkish Cypriot or Cypriot Turk?

[Oracle]

My point is and I cant believe you haven't got it, is that you cannot rely on a single ancestry! So your claim to be Greek is utter rubbish.

Oh-my-good-God...

Since it seems that Cypriots on this forum prefer to choose one of their possible historical origins and add it as a prefix to their identity, lets at least do it the correct way!

If you claim to be descended from the Myceneaens then I'm sorry but Greek Cypriot cannot be allowed as the Myceneans did not identify themselves as such. For the sake of accuracy you must say Myceneaen-Cypriot!

If you claim to be a Turkish Cypriot because you descend from the Ottomans, then you are wrong historically since the Ottomans never referred to themselves as Turks. In fact the term "Turk" was used as an insult by the Ottoman ruling elite. Again, for the sake of accuracy you can call yourself Ottoman-Cypriot!

Our Maronite friends will have to opt for Frankish-Phoenician-Maronite-Cypriots, while Armenians Cypriots who can trace 9th century origin have to opt for Cilician-Cypriot! Our Latin Cypriot brothers should adopt Venetian-Cypriot as their new name.

What a transparent agenda of absolute rubbish!

[insan]

Before some clever dick says "Oh but we are Greek Cypriots because we speak Greek..." let me ask you what you would call a Cypriot who speaks both Greek and Turkish, would you call him / her a Greco-Turkish Cypriot?

What if they spoke French and Russian too, a Russo-Franco-Greco-Turkish Cypriot?

And what if they only spoke English like most of our diaspora, would we call them Anglo-Cypriots?

And if they were from Liverpool, a Scouse-Cypriot?

Ömer, people of Cyprus r free to call themselves however they wish. Has anyone insulted u just because u call urself Cypriot?

[The Cypriot]

Our Maronite friends will have to opt for Frankish-Phoenician-Maronite-Cypriots, while Armenians Cypriots who can trace 9th century origin have to opt for Cilician-Cypriot! Our Latin Cypriot brothers should adopt Venetian-Cypriot as their new name.

Maronites? Armenians? Latins? What are they? Greek or Turkish?

[The Cypriot]

My point is and I cant believe you haven't got it, is that you cannot rely on a single ancestry! So your claim to be Greek is utter rubbish.

Oh-my-good-God...

Since it seems that Cypriots on this forum prefer to choose one of their possible historical origins and add it as a prefix to their identity, lets at least do it the correct way!

If you claim to be descended from the Myceneaens then I'm sorry but Greek Cypriot cannot be allowed as the Myceneans did not identify themselves as such. For the sake of accuracy you must say Myceneaen-Cypriot!

If you claim to be a Turkish Cypriot because you descend from the Ottomans, then you are wrong historically since the Ottomans never referred to themselves as Turks. In fact the term "Turk" was used as an insult by the Ottoman ruling elite. Again, for the sake of accuracy you can call yourself Ottoman-Cypriot!

Our Maronite friends will have to opt for Frankish-Phoenician-Maronite-Cypriots, while Armenians Cypriots who can trace 9th century origin have to opt for Cilician-Cypriot! Our Latin Cypriot brothers should adopt Venetian-Cypriot as their new name.

What a transparent agenda of absolute rubbish!

Omer. You know your secret, hidden, under-hand, evil agenda to brainwash the people of Cyprus into believing they're Cypriot...? The ever-astute Oracle has seen right through it. And she's so forensic in her analysis too.

[Oracle]

That's because you made the mistake that there was a break in ethnicity and one lost touch with their roots. This happened to Turks with their nomadic habits and revisionism but is not common in the Greek world of strong record keeping (especially more recently with the Byzantines).

On the contrary, the Ottomans were famous for keeping records on absolutely everything.

Rubbish ... The Arabs started translating Greek medical texts but the Ottomans just collected taxes .... they weren't interested in facts just money!

The Mycenaeans were from the Peloponnese!

Yes but they first established colonies in Anatolia from which they most likely went to Cyprus.

What difference does that make. They didn't make just ONE journey. ... and they spread to more than just Anatolia.

We know exactly when and why English was introduced to Tonga and the memory of Greek migrations are written in countless records ... a little foreign to Turks as they did not learn to read and write until recently and then set about distorting history. No wonder it seems so strange to you ...

On the contrary, the Gokturks who spoke a language similar to Oghuz-Turkish (I will not call them Turks) used the runic script, had their own grammar and left behind some fascinating tablets in Russia, Kazakhstan and Mongolia.

Desperate!

So naive, so naive....

Your history stinks! As I said above ... the ethnographic project is slowly ending your time-perfected attempts to muddy our history.

They are shortly going to name another crime courtesy of this Turkish practice, like they did the term Genocide .... Can you think of a good word for what you are trying to do? To erase our history and deny us our ethnicity?

I suggest "Turkification" ....