Get Real! wrote:Simon wrote:Get Real! wrote:Each and every one of you who claim to be “Cypriots” must reject and denounce all past programming inflicted on your brains by our enemies, and be reprogrammed to become individual marketing/promotional bastions of Cyprus!
Oracle, Simon, and Paphitis, the three of you are the most fucking useless “Cypriots” on this forum, so your reprogramming must commence immediately…
ie: Repeat after me…
1. Cyprus is the center of the universe!
2. Cyprus is the birthplace of civilization!
3. Cyprus is the alpha and the omega of the world!
I will check your progress tomorrow and press on with the second reprogramming process.
GR, I cannot be a useless Cypriot as I always put Cyprus first. The only difference between me and you is, you believe putting Cyprus first means denying our fantastic contribution to Hellenism, and our Greek identity, I don't.
Furthermore GR, as you are the most useless historian on this forum, you must repeat after me:
I MUST NOT INVENT HISTORY
I MUST NOT INVENT HISTORY
I MUST NOT INVENT HISTORY
Simon, Simon, Simon... whatever will I do with your shortsighted little mind!
All the shit they fed you was to promote another ethnos and look what happened to your own home? It’s been torn down… will you ever learn?
Firstly, nobody has fed me anything. I have independently looked into the history of Cyprus, and the overwhelming amount of evidence supports what I say. Look at the quotes I gave you earlier, look at British ethnic maps from the 19th century, look at the wealth of evidence staring you in the face, from ancient times to today. The fact is Greek Cypriots have always been regarded as ethnic Greeks. This is why you have to invent history and make ridiculous assumptions to support what you say, because you have nothing else.
Secondly, it is not "another ethnos". You still haven't understood GR that Greece does not have the sole rights to being Greek. Just like there are many Turkic states, there can be more than one Hellenic one. Just because we confess a Greek identity, it does not mean we promote Greece over Cyprus. I am a Greek Cypriot, not a Greek from Greece and therefore my allegiance is first and foremost to Cyprus and I am proud of that fact. We are just as Greek (if not more so) than what they are.
I don't believe it is me being shortsighted, but rather you being very fickle.
By your logic, if we had won the war in 1974, and drove the Turks off the island, it would then be acceptable to be Greek. But because we suffered, we must abandon Cyprus' thousands of years of Greek culture and identity, and become simply "Cypriot", which is obviously an identity invented post 1974, so that we can grovel to the TCs and beg them to unite with us under this artificial banner. This is a defeatist mentality. It is the mentality Turkey wants, as it can then more easily assert its authority all over the island. You want to alienate Greece, and yet Greece is a crucial ally, and then you call me shortsighted?
It wasn't our identity that caused the problems in 1974, but ultra-nationalist extremists in both Greece and Cyprus. But that was back then, Greece and Cyprus have progressed and matured immeasurably since then.
Let me ask you this question, even if today, we all completely abandoned any notion that we are Greek, and we all accepted that we are only Cypriots and nothing else, what difference would it make? Do you think Turkey would up and leave? Do you think the TCs would abandon their identity? Do you think the international community would really care all that much? It would then go from Greek Cypriot v Turkish Cypriot to Greek-speaking Christian Cypriot v Turkish Cypriot. TCs would then say they don't want to be dominated by the Christian, Greek-speaking, Cypriot majority, and that they don't want to lose their unique "Turkishness". What do we do then, deny that we are Christians, remove all the Churches, invent a new "Cypriot" language? Where does it end?
The only sensible way to reunite Cyprus would be to accept our differences and treat them as part of the diversity of Cyprus which is what makes the island so rich in culture, as an island between 3 continents. But above all, the allegiance of all must be to Cyprus as Cypriot citizens. We must be mature to behave in this way. If you are saying that we are not mature enough for this in 2009, and therefore we have to create something artificial in its place, then we are not ready to reunite. Is this what you are saying GR?
