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[insan]

We r all under the visible and unvisible hierarchic order of world, dear, lovey; Oracle...

Using ur free will, primarily depends on ur knowledge and ability of ur intelligence to analyze the events by taking into consideration of the goings on behind the scenes(hidden hand), too.

The secondary factor on ur free will is ur real and considered status in this hierarchic world order.


Think, think, think; shit is ur job...(A TC idiom)

Hope, I could've provided some angular acceleration to ur thinking process..

With love from insan.

Is that the translation for " işing boktur '' ? If yes you are mistaken

It means , " you've had it " like " hapı yuttung " unless of course you are using it literally. Me thinks you have been in this country too long old boy.

How would u translate, "düşün,düşün,düşün; bokdur işin."?

Yes, we can interprete it as thinking on something to0 much can drive u up the pole.

[denizaksulu]

We r all under the visible and unvisible hierarchic order of world, dear, lovey; Oracle...

Using ur free will, primarily depends on ur knowledge and ability of ur intelligence to analyze the events by taking into consideration of the goings on behind the scenes(hidden hand), too.

The secondary factor on ur free will is ur real and considered status in this hierarchic world order.


Think, think, think; shit is ur job...(A TC idiom)

Hope, I could've provided some angular acceleration to ur thinking process..

With love from insan.

Is that the translation for " işing boktur '' ? If yes you are mistaken

It means , " you've had it " like " hapı yuttung " unless of course you are using it literally. Me thinks you have been in this country too long old boy.

How would u translate, "düşün,düşün,düşün; bokdur işin."?

Yes, we can interprete it as thinking on something to0 much can drive u up the pole.

Oops. I did not see them as one expression. I thought there was two. I am not familiar with that one.

[insan]

Using ur free will, primarily depends on ur knowledge and ability of ur intelligence to analyze the events by taking into consideration of the goings on behind the scenes(hidden hand), too.

I've edited out your incoherent rantings ...

Free will is not dependent on anything! Otherwise it's NOT free will.

There's also nothing going on behind any "scenes". What are you living in? Some kind of movie?

If you're trying to say individuals can make rational decisions; then in that case, they can be held morally responsible for the actions they choose. Agree?

Well done! U have edited out "the incoherent rantings", under influence of others and ur personal stance against me. You felt like i provoked u... anyway, it doesn't mater...

Do we have free will? It depends what you mean by the word 'free'. More than two hundred senses of the word have been distinguished; the history of the discussion of free will is rich and remarkable. David Hume called the problem of free will 'the most contentious question of metaphysics, the most contentious science' (1748: 95 ).

http://www.rep.routledge.com/article/V014SECT1

[insan]

Oracle wrote:

There's also nothing going on behind any "scenes". What are you living in? Some kind of movie?

Oracle, ur inner world is so small... as small as ur free will..

be⋅hind-the-scenes  /bɪˈhaɪndðəˈsinz/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [bi-hahynd-thuh-seenz] Show IPA
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–adjective 1. happening or conducted out of view of the general public: The behind-the-scenes preparations made the convention a huge success.
2. held or kept privately by or among a few key or influential persons: behind-the-scenes negotiations.
3. occurring backstage: the behind-the-scenes activities of the stage crew.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ ... e%20scenes

[Oracle]

Using ur free will, primarily depends on ur knowledge and ability of ur intelligence to analyze the events by taking into consideration of the goings on behind the scenes(hidden hand), too.

I've edited out your incoherent rantings ...

Free will is not dependent on anything! Otherwise it's NOT free will.

There's also nothing going on behind any "scenes". What are you living in? Some kind of movie?

If you're trying to say individuals can make rational decisions; then in that case, they can be held morally responsible for the actions they choose. Agree?

Well done! U have edited out "the incoherent rantings", under influence of others and ur personal stance against me. You felt like i provoked u... anyway, it doesn't mater...

Do we have free will? It depends what you mean by the word 'free'. More than two hundred senses of the word have been distinguished; the history of the discussion of free will is rich and remarkable. David Hume called the problem of free will 'the most contentious question of metaphysics, the most contentious science' (1748: 95 ).

http://www.rep.routledge.com/article/V014SECT1

I know it's contentious you "king of the copy-paste"!

It's other people's opinions I would like, not some well-known philosopher's, which I can Google if I wish!

If you don't have an opinion, nor can articulate a coherent response, kindly refrain from exchanging in Turkish just to cover your ignorance ....

[bill cobbett]

Do we have Free Will? Gosh, a little heavy for a Sunday night but here is my poorly thought out tuppence worth ....

No, we don't. I think what we have is a net balance of will that falls short of (totally) Free Will.

Oh dear. How shall I put this? .... Suppose we have something called a Free Will, that's Free Will that's inherent within each of us to think and act as we see fit. Something we're born with. Now we don't live in isolation and there are external influences that act on us to limit our Free Will. Things like cultural pressures, religious pressures, societal pressures, parental influences etc etc which leaves us with a Will but one that isn't Free. Here I am stating the obvious.

We can perhaps seek to limit these outside. Some may work to overcome these external factors to try and get to what I see as a more praiseworthy ANARCHIC level, one with the maximum level of Free Will, which leads me to say that, isn't that what we are talking about when we refer to Free Will? Anarchy?

[Paphitis]

On the whole, man does not have the free will to think and act on his own accord....instead we are raised within certain cultural dogma which by its very essence limits our free will, reason and rationale....

However, man does have the free will to later abandon this dogma for and seek free unlimited and boundless free thought, and this is how I define "free will".

Anarchy has nothing to do with free will, because having free will does not mean we should be allowed to hurt other humans or their worldly possessions or loved ones. When you remove law and order, then you have anarchy.

[bill cobbett]

Hi P, trust you are well etc

When I refer to Anarchy above, I do so in the political system meaning of the word which is ... without strictly defined leaders, within which I also include without the imposed societal controls to which you refer. I did not mean to refer to a chaotic state of affairs which is the meaning often and I think wrongly and maliciously applied by those who seek to control us and our individual free will.

[zan]

If it were available then it would have a tax on it!

[Paphitis]

Hi P, trust you are well etc

When I refer to Anarchy above, I do so in the political system meaning of the word which is ... without strictly defined leaders, within which I also include without the imposed societal controls to which you refer. I did not mean to refer to a chaotic state of affairs which is the meaning often and I think wrongly and maliciously applied by those who seek to control us and our individual free will.

G'day mate,

if we did not have some form of leadership, then how can you enforce law and order? Can humans be trusted to behave accordingly without leadership or controls? Will this not lead to a chaotic state of affairs?

I do understand what you are driving at, because sadly, our Governments are seeking to control our thoughts and actions....

I was not so much referring to the societal controls imposed by Governments etc..but was talking about cultural dogma, be it religious or otherwise. This is what I believe inhibits man's free will because by its very nature it narrows the mind to a multitude of other facts and wonders. This abuse is brought upon by families and not Governments, unless you live in Iran or Saudi Arabia for example.